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  • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.

    https://www.planetrugby.com/news/livid-new-zealand-rugby-issue-statement-over-france-tour-controversy-as-world-rugby-asked-for-clarification

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    @Kiwiwomble

    Several months to go and it wouldn't surprise me if the French bring some (or indeed most) of their top players to NZ.

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    • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.

      https://www.planetrugby.com/news/livid-new-zealand-rugby-issue-statement-over-france-tour-controversy-as-world-rugby-asked-for-clarification

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      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.

      https://www.planetrugby.com/news/livid-new-zealand-rugby-issue-statement-over-france-tour-controversy-as-world-rugby-asked-for-clarification

      I hope they do send an under strength team and we pummel them.

      But it's going to be embarrassing if we do lose.

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      • BovidaeB Bovidae

        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

        So Scotland is going to play the NZ Maori in Whangarei but no Test match? Scotland hasn't played a Test in NZ since 2000

        I wonder if that means it will not be a full strength Scottish side

        It won't be as the BIL tour is on at the same time. They play NSW on the same day.

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        @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

        So Scotland is going to play the NZ Maori in Whangarei but no Test match? Scotland hasn't played a Test in NZ since 2000

        I wonder if that means it will not be a full strength Scottish side

        It won't be as the BIL tour is on at the same time. They play NSW on the same day.

        Normally Scotland get a couple of consolation players in the Lions so the Māoris may face a pretty strong line up!

        Although, the make up of the Lions next year suddenly doesn’t look so green. Maybe Ireland, Scots and England will have a fair share between them?

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        • DonsteppaD Donsteppa

          So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

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          @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

          So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

          Well the record is going to fall one day.

          The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

          Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

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            @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

            So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

            Well the record is going to fall one day.

            The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

            Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

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            reprobate
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            @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

            So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

            Well the record is going to fall one day.

            The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

            Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

            I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

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            • R reprobate

              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

              So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

              Well the record is going to fall one day.

              The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

              Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

              I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

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              taniwharugby
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              @reprobate and somewhat ironically for Razor, the emergence of Sititi is a counter point to his conservatism.

              Can't recall if anyone under Fozzies tenure had such an impact in thier debut season, probably Samisoni?

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              • S SBW1

                Brown would be a great pickup, how long is his contract with the Boks? O'Halloran is out of coaching due to health issues. Does anyone think Razor will change his coaching staff before 2027?

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                @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                Does anyone think Razor will change his coaching staff before 2027?

                We would be relying on coaches getting injured, so, unlikely.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  @Kiwiwomble

                  Several months to go and it wouldn't surprise me if the French bring some (or indeed most) of their top players to NZ.

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                  Kiwiwomble
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                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Kiwiwomble

                  Several months to go and it wouldn't surprise me if the French bring some (or indeed most) of their top players to NZ.

                  ...just over 2 months

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                  • R reprobate

                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

                    So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

                    Well the record is going to fall one day.

                    The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

                    Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

                    I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

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                    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

                    So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

                    Well the record is going to fall one day.

                    The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

                    Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

                    I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

                    AB players of the past talk about a fear of losing and upholding the AB legacy.

                    It’s striking a balance isn’t it? Fear of losing but going out and playing with no fear…

                    Defending Eden park record against the Boks is exactly the type of match for players and coaches to have for them to improve.

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                      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

                      So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

                      Well the record is going to fall one day.

                      The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

                      Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

                      I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

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                      canefan
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                      @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

                      So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

                      Well the record is going to fall one day.

                      The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

                      Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

                      I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

                      Foster had no trouble surrendering longstanding records to opposition teams....

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                      • D DaGrubster

                        @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

                        So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

                        Well the record is going to fall one day.

                        The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

                        Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

                        I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

                        AB players of the past talk about a fear of losing and upholding the AB legacy.

                        It’s striking a balance isn’t it? Fear of losing but going out and playing with no fear…

                        Defending Eden park record against the Boks is exactly the type of match for players and coaches to have for them to improve.

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                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

                        So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

                        Well the record is going to fall one day.

                        The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

                        Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

                        I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

                        AB players of the past talk about a fear of losing and upholding the AB legacy.

                        It’s striking a balance isn’t it? Fear of losing but going out and playing with no fear…

                        Defending Eden park record against the Boks is exactly the type of match for players and coaches to have for them to improve.

                        Where's Gilbert when you need him

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                        • D DaGrubster

                          @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @DaGrubster said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Donsteppa said in All Blacks 2025:

                          So the Eden Park record will stand for 31 years.

                          Well the record is going to fall one day.

                          The Boks will see it like a World Cup final.

                          Time for Razor and his team to become a win at all costs All Blacks side and protect the proud record.

                          I actually think the fear of losing is a decent part of the reason for Robertson's overly conservative selections, and Foster before him. It's holding us back.

                          AB players of the past talk about a fear of losing and upholding the AB legacy.

                          It’s striking a balance isn’t it? Fear of losing but going out and playing with no fear…

                          Defending Eden park record against the Boks is exactly the type of match for players and coaches to have for them to improve.

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                          Kiwiwomble
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                          @DaGrubster im sure they all know about the eden park run but we saw after the home loses to Ireland, when ardie came out and said he didn;t know we'd never load at home to them, i think the current generation of players are less about history and honour and more just about personal excellence (or when im feeling harsh, its just a job to them)....it works until you need a team to lift above themselves...i think previous generations often played better at international level where as the current one dont seem too as often

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                            It's just depressing seeing the AB's play test after test at the graveyard of dreams/competency that is Wellington 😞

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                              https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/taranaki-daily-news/20241211/281891598860091 David Kirk tipped to be new Chairman of NZRU.

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                                It's a shame the ABs aren't playing Samoa or Tonga in 2025.

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                                  https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/razors-conservatism-is-in-danger-of-halting-new-zealands-progress/

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                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/razors-conservatism-is-in-danger-of-halting-new-zealands-progress/

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                                    @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/razors-conservatism-is-in-danger-of-halting-new-zealands-progress/

                                    Good to see Razor is a big fan of Zoolander

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                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.

                                      https://www.planetrugby.com/news/livid-new-zealand-rugby-issue-statement-over-france-tour-controversy-as-world-rugby-asked-for-clarification

                                      I hope they do send an under strength team and we pummel them.

                                      But it's going to be embarrassing if we do lose.

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                                      @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Kiwiwomble said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Hoping France bring a decent squad to NZ in July.

                                      https://www.planetrugby.com/news/livid-new-zealand-rugby-issue-statement-over-france-tour-controversy-as-world-rugby-asked-for-clarification

                                      I hope they do send an under strength team and we pummel them.

                                      But it's going to be embarrassing if we do lose.

                                      France's depth is the biggest in the world, even bigger than South Africa's, IMO. If Dupont doesn't travel, his potential substitutes are all a class above most of the halfbacks in the NH, with the notable exception of Gibson-Parkes (Le Garrec, Serin, Couilloud). Where France's depth is the most impressive is in the loose forwards. There is a bunch of young, exciting players, who are or will probably be better than the current ones (Ollivon - Cros - Alldritt) : Castro-Ferreira, Gazotti, Matiu, Jegou, Boudehent are certainly going to form the French back row for the next RWC. The same could be written about many positions. The team which will play in NZ next July will be a team of no names but it will be stronger than expected by most of the Ferners.

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                                      • M Machpants

                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/razors-conservatism-is-in-danger-of-halting-new-zealands-progress/

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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/razors-conservatism-is-in-danger-of-halting-new-zealands-progress/

                                        Interesting article. And the comments section had similar sentiment to what I read on here

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                                          @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/razors-conservatism-is-in-danger-of-halting-new-zealands-progress/

                                          Good to see Razor is a big fan of Zoolander

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                                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Good to see Razor is a big fan of Zoolander

                                          Looks more to me like Razor impersonating Popeye impersonating Zoolander..

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