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  • A African Monkey

    @MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

    Keep an eye out for 19 year old heavyweight, Moses Itauma.

    Could be the future of the division

    Most understated post ever.

    Huge early knockout. McKean is no chump either, 22-1 record.

    Will definitely watch this young fellas progress!

    McKean's record let's just say is extremely padded. He even got a couple of gifts along the way in those fights.

    Itauma I'm surprised jumped pro so early. Thought he'd try and go to an Olympics but with the uncertainty going around with it being scrapped due to corruption, it may have forced his hand.

    Probably worth chucking Itauma with another English prospect, someone like Clarke (if he's ready to fight again after his nasty KO loss to Wardley), or maybe David Adeleye for the English title.

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    @African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:

    @MN5 said in Boxing Thread:

    @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

    Keep an eye out for 19 year old heavyweight, Moses Itauma.

    Could be the future of the division

    Most understated post ever.

    Huge early knockout. McKean is no chump either, 22-1 record.

    Will definitely watch this young fellas progress!

    McKean's record let's just say is extremely padded. He even got a couple of gifts along the way in those fights.

    Itauma I'm surprised jumped pro so early. Thought he'd try and go to an Olympics but with the uncertainty going around with it being scrapped due to corruption, it may have forced his hand.

    Probably worth chucking Itauma with another English prospect, someone like Clarke (if he's ready to fight again after his nasty KO loss to Wardley), or maybe David Adeleye for the English title.

    Yeah I’ll admit to not knowing much about him but that power can’t be denied. Incredible stuff

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    • A African Monkey

      I had it wider, 117-111 Usyk, 116-112 was the best I could do for Fury.

      Will watch again when I get a chance but yeah, time the boxing world realizes that we're witnessing an ATG in Oleksandr Usyk.

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      @African-Monkey said in Boxing Thread:

      I had it wider, 117-111 Usyk, 116-112 was the best I could do for Fury.

      Will watch again when I get a chance but yeah, time the boxing world realizes that we're witnessing an ATG in Oleksandr Usyk.

      Olympic gold medalist and dominating 2 weight divisions,

      Ill put my hand up and admit I knew he was a great cruiserweight but I did not expect him to dominate at heavyweight the way he has as well I thought he would go ok , but not clean it out .

      He is an all time great , that is not even debatable

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        Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

        Different league

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        • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

          Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

          Different league

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          @MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:

          Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

          Different league

          Harsh but probably true.

          …..then again I’d completely written him off after his loss to Joyce, for him to come back and beat Wilder and Zhang was incredible.

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          • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

            Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

            Different league

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            @MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:

            Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

            Different league

            Dubois already has been stopped by Usyk too, although there was a bit of controversy in that fight. Dubois was stopped by a jab in the end due to exhaustion.

            Parker, he'd go the distance, but would lose very wide.

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            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

              Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

              Different league

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              #1567

              @MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:

              Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

              Different league

              If Parker beat Dubois and actually gets his hands on a belt again , that in itself is his Everest,

              Getting a unification fight with usyk would be massive for him , the payday would be enormous , usyk would be too much for him though

              The funny thing is , the way he is fighting now , he is probably more similar to usyk than anyone else , the Temu version maybe , but maybe he has enough movement and speed to give Dubois some problems too.

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              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                @MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:

                Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

                Different league

                If Parker beat Dubois and actually gets his hands on a belt again , that in itself is his Everest,

                Getting a unification fight with usyk would be massive for him , the payday would be enormous , usyk would be too much for him though

                The funny thing is , the way he is fighting now , he is probably more similar to usyk than anyone else , the Temu version maybe , but maybe he has enough movement and speed to give Dubois some problems too.

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                @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                @MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:

                Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

                Different league

                If Parker beat Dubois and actually gets his hands on a belt again , that in itself is his Everest,

                Getting a unification fight with usyk would be massive for him , the payday would be enormous , usyk would be too much for him though

                The funny thing is , the way he is fighting now , he is probably more similar to usyk than anyone else , the Temu version maybe , but maybe he has enough movement and speed to give Dubois some problems too.

                Yeah I get what you mean about Parker.

                If you’re being particularly churlish he beat a shot to bits Wilder and an old Zhang.

                VERY hard to see him competing with Usyk.

                …..and I say this as a huge fan of him, my favourite NZ sportsman by quite a margin.

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                • MN5M MN5

                  @kiwiinmelb said in Boxing Thread:

                  @MiketheSnow said in Boxing Thread:

                  Neither Dubois nor Parker will go the distance with Usyk

                  Different league

                  If Parker beat Dubois and actually gets his hands on a belt again , that in itself is his Everest,

                  Getting a unification fight with usyk would be massive for him , the payday would be enormous , usyk would be too much for him though

                  The funny thing is , the way he is fighting now , he is probably more similar to usyk than anyone else , the Temu version maybe , but maybe he has enough movement and speed to give Dubois some problems too.

                  Yeah I get what you mean about Parker.

                  If you’re being particularly churlish he beat a shot to bits Wilder and an old Zhang.

                  VERY hard to see him competing with Usyk.

                  …..and I say this as a huge fan of him, my favourite NZ sportsman by quite a margin.

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                  @MN5 Wilder was gun-shy damaged goods
                  Zhang at 40 is probably in his prime though as he wasn't a pro in his 20's.
                  Only the patient and highly cardio trained HWs beat Zhang atm- so JP and Uysk top that list and poss Kabayel which we will find out. Dubois likely sparked by ZZ, Bakole would be fun but still favour ZZ.
                  Anyone who wants to stand and trade with ZZ is looking at an early night.

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                    #1570

                    Between Uysk and the Klitschkos, Ukraine has had an incredible run of success in boxing.

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                      Between Uysk and the Klitschkos, Ukraine has had an incredible run of success in boxing.

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                      @Cyclops said in Boxing Thread:

                      Between Uysk and the Klitschko's, Ukraine has had an incredible run of success in boxing.

                      Yeah pretty cool seeing Lennox Lewis sitting next to Vitali

                      Didn’t those two have a massive clash 20 odd years ago ?

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                      • CyclopsC Cyclops

                        Between Uysk and the Klitschkos, Ukraine has had an incredible run of success in boxing.

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                        #1572

                        @Cyclops said in Boxing Thread:

                        Between Uysk and the Klitschkos, Ukraine has had an incredible run of success in boxing.

                        And Loma , if you watch him and usyk , they are very similar in technique ,both southpaws , and the footwork and movement is almost identical, they were close friends growing up with lomachenkos father training the two of them through their very early years taking them both through to gold medals at the olympics

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                          Brutal KO loss for Nyika. He was out cold for a while.

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                            Nyika did some good stuff in the first 2 rounds, but once the 3rd round started, it was one way traffic.

                            Fighting this late is crazy though.

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                              Yeah went the way I expected it , David is a good prospect who could possibly win a title himself one day , but the timing of this was all wrong for him.

                              The experience won’t hurt him .

                              Jai is the real deal though , should unify the division even if the division lacks top end talent compared to a few years ago , thats not his problem, Zurdo should be a good fight

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                                  Not sure you could get a card better than this , every fight is worthy of a main fight in its own right .

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                                      @nonpartizan said in Boxing Thread:

                                      Tyson Fury retired.

                                      I know he is not universally liked but I will always remember him for those three epic fights v Wilder.

                                      Probably became overrated as a consequence but at his best he was an entertainer who brought a lot of fun into boxing. Definitely more good than bad for the sport.

                                      I’ll take the retirement with a grain of salt.

                                      An undisputed great to some, the best of a bad era to others. I still can’t quite decide where he sits, perhaps it will be easier once his career is actually over.

                                      Huge, awkward ( although he made it work ), VERY tough ( Wilder trilogy proved this ) skilful.

                                      …..and in my opinion one hell of an entertainer. Natural raconteur who underneath it all didn’t take himself too seriously.

                                      A massive advocate for mental health and a family man, those will always get big ticks from me.

                                      If he is actually retired he will be missed.

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                                        I think he's genuinely retired.

                                        Until he wakes up one morning and thinks Maybe I'll go again

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                                          Dont forget the win against Klitchko , I rate that as his greatest win in alot of ways ,given Vlads unbeaten run and the massive underdog Fury was at the time,

                                          it was a masterclass in tactics , got inside head first , the man that always looked so calm looked rattled for once

                                          Then made him look lost in the ring , couldnt let his hands go ,

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