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NFL 2025

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  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

    Herbert overthrew too often
    Too hard, too far, not good.

    Lamar by comparison though has it easy as a QB. Henry has made them.very fucking hard to defend. Lamar can dish, take the run when everyone goes to Henry. He barely has to throw.

    Lamar is surrounded by better players than Herbert and you can't ignore that.

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    @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

    Lamar is surrounded by better players than Herbert and you can't ignore that.

    Yep. But he threw very well - he's picking his run and his pass and his handoff so much better. He's undefendable at times.

    He is awesome to watch. And I have man-love for Henry (I have his jersey). What a Meast.

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      well, glad i got up early to watch that...

      Denver are just not good enough to live with Buffalo. We were too conservative as well, and our run game isn't really good enough for that. The first drive was awesome, and then we barely had the ball after that.

      The AFC is fucked. To even make the Superbowl you've got to beat at least a couple of Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, probably Joe Burrow as well. And it's not like the guys just below them in Herbert and Stroud are shit either.

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        Steelers fans have had enough of Mike Tomlin and the treadmill.

        Lots of damning calls like "we've become the Cowboys, all legacy no relevance"

        Ouch

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          Going into Buffalo was always going to be tough. Broncos put up a fight but didn't have the firepower.

          Plenty to build on into next year though. Tough division, tough conference but there's a good young QB, good coach, good skill players, strong defence... the foundations are there.

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            oh, just making the post season was huge considering the preseason predictions.

            We're sorted at QB it looks like, which is half the battle. Desperately need upgrades at RB and WR. And as always, we need a defensive stud to come from somewhere.

            But this was a great season for Denver.

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              also i can't fucking wait for the Ravens v Bills

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                Yeah that's going to be awesome. Chiefs will be pretty happy to face Houston I'd think.

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                  that was a poor game. Green Bay are a bit shit and the Eagles weren't good enough to properly put them away.
                  A bad play call on 3rd down, and then a bad throw/catch on 4th and that was game.

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                    Washington win with a last second field goal that goes in off the upright.

                    good game

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                      McCarthy out as Cowboys coach

                      Cowboys join the coaching search.

                      There's a lot of complicated rules about when and how you can interview candidates during the playoffs - however Cowboys have essentially wasted an important week where they could have been virtually interviewing playoff assistant coaches.

                      Mike McCarthy linked to the vacancies in Chicago and New Orleans.

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                        Don't follow NFL too much but in regards to the coach's being axed do they genuinely bring in new talent or is it more of a coaching merry-go-around where all the established coach's just swap franchises with each other?

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                          They do bring in a lot of new talent. Offensive and Defensive Co-ordinators generally get about 50% of the jobs, while established guys get the other 50%. Teams are wary of getting guys with too much history and baggage - it's not like the NRL where guys can bounce to their 3rd or 4th team without much concern. Rare to see a head coach find a 3rd home. McCarthy will be one of the very few, I can't see Doug Peterson getting another gig.

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                            Patriots hired first, and took Vrabel in what was a no-brainer. They knew who they wanted, ticked the boxes early on their "must interview" and then hired him.

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                              Surprisingly competent from Kraft and the Pats. They could have stuck to Mayo for another season, but pulled the trigger and now are in a much better position. Now they should have just hired Vrabel last year, but at least they've recognised their error.

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                                i still maintain firing a first time HC after 1 year is an average call. But, if they know Vrabel is better, then it's actually really good business (fixing a mistake 12 months ago as you say).

                                Takes guts for these guys to publicly admit they got it wrong

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                                  Yeah I think I agree with you. You've got to give these guys time to grow, build continuity etc etc. But if there's a clear better option there in the short and long term then you have to pull the trigger.

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                                    I am very much in favour of firing a guy after one year if it's not working.

                                    It's a sunk cost.

                                    You are only hurting yourself further the more you delay

                                    A lot of the feedback on Mayo was that he had completely lost the locker room and just was not suited to the head coach role.

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                                    • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                      Washington win with a last second field goal that goes in off the upright.

                                      good game

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                                      @mariner4life said in NFL 2024:

                                      Washington win with a last second field goal that goes in off the upright.

                                      good game

                                      How nervy was Gonzalez before that kick! More nervous ticks than Steve Smith

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                                        just do your hair one more time mate

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          I am very much in favour of firing a guy after one year if it's not working.

                                          It's a sunk cost.

                                          You are only hurting yourself further the more you delay

                                          A lot of the feedback on Mayo was that he had completely lost the locker room and just was not suited to the head coach role.

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in NFL 2024:

                                          I am very much in favour of firing a guy after one year if it's not working.

                                          It's a sunk cost.

                                          You are only hurting yourself further the more you delay

                                          A lot of the feedback on Mayo was that he had completely lost the locker room and just was not suited to the head coach role.

                                          The record isn't necessarily important in the first year. IIRC Troy Aikman had a bad first season under Jimmy Johnson and it turned out fine. But if the players aren't behind him that is a deal breaker

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