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  • sparkyS Offline
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    I'd have thought Steve Larkham is a shoe-in to get the Wallabies gig after Joe Schmidt.

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      @Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      @Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.

      I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)

      Yep , just Cheika has by coincidence chucked in his job at Leicester a couple of weeks back.
      I wonder if RA wants to keep strong coaching teams at super clubs. Cheika has a pretty handy record at international level, with the Wallabies and Pumas?

      Of course I could be completely wrong too of course!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

      Yeah nah

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      @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      @Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      @KiwiMurph said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      @Dan54 said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

      So who get's Wallaby job. I wouldn't be surprised if Cheika doesn't get the gig. They could do worse than him.

      I think they would rather keep the momentum going of what Schmidt has established so Kiss makes much more sense in my view (has strong ties with Schmidt)

      Yep , just Cheika has by coincidence chucked in his job at Leicester a couple of weeks back.
      I wonder if RA wants to keep strong coaching teams at super clubs. Cheika has a pretty handy record at international level, with the Wallabies and Pumas?

      Of course I could be completely wrong too of course!!:beaming_face_with_smiling_eyes:

      Yeah nah

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      i feel this is one of those times the stats dont give the whole picture, he also got them to the RWC final in 2015...and feel (un researched or confirmed) there was a generational loss of talent in the years afterwards...i feel they might be on the way up again (fingers crossed) and someone like him might be able to do something with that

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        Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

        I don't think that type of coach is what we need right now. I prefer the Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt-type quiet tactician and I get the sense RA does as well.

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          Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

          I don't think that type of coach is what we need right now. I prefer the Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt-type quiet tactician and I get the sense RA does as well.

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          @barbarian 100% Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt would be better for aussie rugby...but neither are an option and im not sure who else is out there thats similar and of international quality

          @barbarian said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

          Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

          ...2 years until the world cup and aussie rugby could use some press ๐Ÿค”

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            I actually think the best landing spot for Cheika would be the Western Force. Feels like they are stagnating a bit both on and off the field.

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            • KiwiwombleK Kiwiwomble

              @barbarian 100% Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt would be better for aussie rugby...but neither are an option and im not sure who else is out there thats similar and of international quality

              @barbarian said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

              Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

              ...2 years until the world cup and aussie rugby could use some press ๐Ÿค”

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              @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

              @barbarian 100% Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt would be better for aussie rugby...but neither are an option and im not sure who else is out there thats similar and of international quality

              @barbarian said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

              Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

              ...2 years until the world cup and aussie rugby could use some press ๐Ÿค”

              Smash and grab, eh?

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              • M Machpants

                @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                @barbarian 100% Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt would be better for aussie rugby...but neither are an option and im not sure who else is out there thats similar and of international quality

                @barbarian said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

                ...2 years until the world cup and aussie rugby could use some press ๐Ÿค”

                Smash and grab, eh?

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                @Machpants said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                @Kiwiwomble said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                @barbarian 100% Dave Rennie/Joe Schmidt would be better for aussie rugby...but neither are an option and im not sure who else is out there thats similar and of international quality

                @barbarian said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                Cheika is a short term genius. Bring him in for 1-2 years and he works magic, which then wears off as his coaching tactics lose their shine. He also says some wild stuff and can generate a headline.

                ...2 years until the world cup and aussie rugby could use some press ๐Ÿค”

                Smash and grab, eh?

                Solid history. Of something....

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                  very cool news, one of the guys that came through our junior and senior clubs, played in the Grand Final last year, our MVP award is named after his dad, real club legends, has been named on the bench for the Brumbies, club group chat going off ๐Ÿ‘‘

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                    Mate that's fucking great for him and for the club! Get that all over socials ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                      Mate that's fucking great for him and for the club! Get that all over socials ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                      @NTA trust me, its happening

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                        for all those people running rugby that dont think there should be a connection between the club game and the pro game....or just dont care, fuck you, half the club is probably going to go to the pub to watch the game, seeing people you have a connection with play matters, ive instantly got a softspot for the Brumbies

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                          Wallabies captain Harry Wilson has committed long-term to Australian Rugby, signing a four-year extension.
                          
                          The deal sees Wilson commit his future to Queensland and Australia until the end of the 2029 season, the first Wallaby to do so.
                          

                          https://wallabies.rugby/news/harry-wilson-extension-wallabies-captain-reds-rugby-australia-2025220

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                            Machpants
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                            That's good news for Oz

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                              Ikitau confirmed to be moving to Exeter after the 2025 Rugby Championship:
                              https://www.telegraph.co.uk/rugby-union/2025/02/25/exeter-complete-signing-of-australia-centre-len-ikitau/

                              It looks to be a deal not too dissimilar to what Fainga'anuku has done, where he'll go for a season or two to Europe before returning to Super Rugby. At least, that's what Christy Doran is reporting at The Roar.
                              https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/02/25/exclusive-cashed-up-english-club-signs-ikitau-and-they-have-sights-set-on-another-star-wallaby-in-aussie-raid/

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                                Any reason why so many Aussies go to Exeter? Is there a link between them and Aussie rugby?

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                                  Machpants
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                                  So aside from the societies media blow up, this is what the 5 year residency rules mean, poaching players at a younger age. Pushing the pro wage to lower and lower age brackets, which often isn't great in the long term for younger peoples mental health and the health of the game in schools

                                  https://www.theroar.com.au/2025/03/04/rugby-australia-accused-of-obstructing-giant-16-yr-olds-historic-move-to-french-glamour-club/

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                                    Needing official clearance from club, state and national representatives before any such moves can be made official

                                    Wait, what? Did I read something wrong? He's 16 and has no contract.

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                                      Needing official clearance from club, state and national representatives before any such moves can be made official

                                      Wait, what? Did I read something wrong? He's 16 and has no contract.

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                                      @antipodean said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                      Needing official clearance from club, state and national representatives before any such moves can be made official

                                      Wait, what? Did I read something wrong? He's 16 and has no contract.

                                      Yeah it's a bit confusing, I think those rules kick in at 17. But AR want clarity from WR if that should this cover under 17, as frogs are poaching so early in this case

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                                        NTA
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                                        FMD France has a bucketload of clubs and talent pathways galore, and they're taking kids now?

                                        Let him go if his parents are that keen for him to earn money. One locking prospect here or there isn't going to make a difference.,

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                                        • A African Monkey

                                          Any reason why so many Aussies go to Exeter? Is there a link between them and Aussie rugby?

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                                          @African-Monkey said in Aussie Pro Rugby:

                                          Any reason why so many Aussies go to Exeter? Is there a link between them and Aussie rugby?

                                          This article goes a bit more into it:
                                          https://www.rugbypass.com/plus/how-australian-rugby-can-combine-gourmet-home-cooking-and-the-overseas-takeaway/

                                          There doesn't seem to be anything formalized between RA and Exeter Chiefs, just a lot of positive feedback from former Australian Exeter players, like Nic White and Greg Holmes.

                                          Might be a bit misleading given their current financial insecurities and poor sporting performances, but, to be fair to Exeter Chiefs, they were always a very well-run rugby club until the economic effects of the pandemic hit them hard. (see for example: https://www.thetimes.com/sport/rugby-union/article/exeter-blame-covid-hangover-as-pre-tax-losses-nearly-double-mrgb6mmkc)

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