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  • BonesB Bones

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Razor must be a bit slow

    I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

    He will. It's probably why Barrett gets put at 10.

    And why he selects EB. What with Akira overseas too.

    Unfortunately Wallace's injury has made that selection narrative easier for a while

    You reckon he's going to try and select Akira from overseas?

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    #658

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Razor must be a bit slow

    I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

    He will. It's probably why Barrett gets put at 10.

    And why he selects EB. What with Akira overseas too.

    Unfortunately Wallace's injury has made that selection narrative easier for a while

    You reckon he's going to try and select Akira from overseas?

    Nope. I'm just saying he can pick EB now because "we have no one else" with Wallace down

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    • canefanC canefan

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      Razor must be a bit slow

      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

      He will. It's probably why Barrett gets put at 10.

      And why he selects EB. What with Akira overseas too.

      Unfortunately Wallace's injury has made that selection narrative easier for a while

      You reckon he's going to try and select Akira from overseas?

      Nope. I'm just saying he can pick EB now because "we have no one else" with Wallace down

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      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

      Razor must be a bit slow

      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

      He will. It's probably why Barrett gets put at 10.

      And why he selects EB. What with Akira overseas too.

      Unfortunately Wallace's injury has made that selection narrative easier for a while

      You reckon he's going to try and select Akira from overseas?

      Nope. I'm just saying he can pick EB now because "we have no one else" with Wallace down

      True, not like he selected EB when WS was available last year.

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      • MN5M Online
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        How did EB go in round one ?

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        • MN5M MN5

          How did EB go in round one ?

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          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

          How did EB go in round one ?

          Played through injury. What a warrior.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

            How did EB go in round one ?

            Played through injury. What a warrior.

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            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

            How did EB go in round one ?

            Played through injury. What a warrior.

            Busy and ineffective as always I assume ?

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              Razor must be a bit slow

              I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

              With or without stellar play from DMac

              DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

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              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              Razor must be a bit slow

              I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

              With or without stellar play from DMac

              DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

              There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

              once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

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              • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                Razor must be a bit slow

                I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                With or without stellar play from DMac

                DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

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                #664

                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                Razor must be a bit slow

                I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                With or without stellar play from DMac

                DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                shit, maybe 6 years ago.

                Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

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                • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Razor must be a bit slow

                  I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                  With or without stellar play from DMac

                  DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                  There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                  once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

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                  #665

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                  There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                  once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                  There are still some in the rugby media who continue to bang that drum despite the evidence proving the exact opposite. In the ABs best performance of the year BB didn't even play!

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                    #666

                    The irony is, if Razor had won everything last year, wins everything this year, I think NZR give some concessions, but he didnt, needs to focus on what he has at his disposal and build on them.

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Razor must be a bit slow

                      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                      He will. It's probably why Barrett gets put at 10.

                      And why he selects EB. What with Akira overseas too.

                      Unfortunately Wallace's injury has made that selection narrative easier for a while

                      You reckon he's going to try and select Akira from overseas?

                      Nope. I'm just saying he can pick EB now because "we have no one else" with Wallace down

                      True, not like he selected EB when WS was available last year.

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                      #667

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Razor must be a bit slow

                      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                      He will. It's probably why Barrett gets put at 10.

                      And why he selects EB. What with Akira overseas too.

                      Unfortunately Wallace's injury has made that selection narrative easier for a while

                      You reckon he's going to try and select Akira from overseas?

                      Nope. I'm just saying he can pick EB now because "we have no one else" with Wallace down

                      True, not like he selected EB when WS was available last year.

                      I think we can all agree that if EB hadn't torn his vagina before the EOYT, Wallace would have got nothing more than garbage time, and probably not even that

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                      • nzzpN nzzp

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Razor must be a bit slow

                        I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                        With or without stellar play from DMac

                        DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                        There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                        once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                        shit, maybe 6 years ago.

                        Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

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                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

                        I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

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                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

                          I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

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                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

                          I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

                          from what i see on various other channels, this site is pretty much the only place to have that view.

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                          • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

                            I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

                            from what i see on various other channels, this site is pretty much the only place to have that view.

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                            @mariner4life yeah, i dont get it, othert locations are calling for us to spend what ever it take to get RM back....to be BB's understudy, DMac third choice....i feel like im being gaslit

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                              the same places think A Savea was basically the best player in black last year. I am convinced most people don't even watch games, they just watch a few highlights and parrot talking points of 2-5 years ago.

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                              • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                the same places think A Savea was basically the best player in black last year. I am convinced most people don't even watch games, they just watch a few highlights and parrot talking points of 2-5 years ago.

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                                @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                the same places think A Savea was basically the best player in black last year. I am convinced most people don't even watch games, they just watch a few highlights and parrot talking points of 2-5 years ago.

                                He was one of our best in 2023 but super meh in 2024. His form has dipped since he left the Canes. Same with Beaudy. 🙂

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  the same places think A Savea was basically the best player in black last year. I am convinced most people don't even watch games, they just watch a few highlights and parrot talking points of 2-5 years ago.

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                                  @mariner4life re BB....8 years ago

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                                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    the same places think A Savea was basically the best player in black last year. I am convinced most people don't even watch games, they just watch a few highlights and parrot talking points of 2-5 years ago.

                                    He was one of our best in 2023 but super meh in 2024. His form has dipped since he left the Canes. Same with Beaudy. 🙂

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                                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    He was one of our best in 2023 but super meh in 2024

                                    absolutely. i expect him to bounce back pretty hard this year i think.

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                                      It's the thing with forums etc, it's all just opinions, (well same as press etc too), not sure anyone ir right or wrong on BB, DMac etc, just see things different.
                                      Same as Jordie, many rubbished him on here etc last year, then Kieran Read reckons he is Mr Rugby of ABs backline. He said that after being involved with ABs trainings and being at games. That is his opinion, and I wouldn't argue with it, or his knowledge, but also see that some who watch games (especially on tv) have other opinions , and on all players.

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                                      • Dan54D Dan54

                                        It's the thing with forums etc, it's all just opinions, (well same as press etc too), not sure anyone ir right or wrong on BB, DMac etc, just see things different.
                                        Same as Jordie, many rubbished him on here etc last year, then Kieran Read reckons he is Mr Rugby of ABs backline. He said that after being involved with ABs trainings and being at games. That is his opinion, and I wouldn't argue with it, or his knowledge, but also see that some who watch games (especially on tv) have other opinions , and on all players.

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                                        @Dan54
                                        Totally agree. Let's scrap the forum and blindly follow the talking points of ex-players.
                                        I mean....what's the point of even having opinions?

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                                        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

                                          I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

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                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

                                          I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

                                          I was among DMac's biggest detractors on this site and even I've come around to the firmly held belief he's matured into our best option.

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