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  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

    the same places think A Savea was basically the best player in black last year. I am convinced most people don't even watch games, they just watch a few highlights and parrot talking points of 2-5 years ago.

    He was one of our best in 2023 but super meh in 2024. His form has dipped since he left the Canes. Same with Beaudy. 🙂

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    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

    He was one of our best in 2023 but super meh in 2024

    absolutely. i expect him to bounce back pretty hard this year i think.

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      wrote on last edited by
      #675

      It's the thing with forums etc, it's all just opinions, (well same as press etc too), not sure anyone ir right or wrong on BB, DMac etc, just see things different.
      Same as Jordie, many rubbished him on here etc last year, then Kieran Read reckons he is Mr Rugby of ABs backline. He said that after being involved with ABs trainings and being at games. That is his opinion, and I wouldn't argue with it, or his knowledge, but also see that some who watch games (especially on tv) have other opinions , and on all players.

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      • Dan54D Dan54

        It's the thing with forums etc, it's all just opinions, (well same as press etc too), not sure anyone ir right or wrong on BB, DMac etc, just see things different.
        Same as Jordie, many rubbished him on here etc last year, then Kieran Read reckons he is Mr Rugby of ABs backline. He said that after being involved with ABs trainings and being at games. That is his opinion, and I wouldn't argue with it, or his knowledge, but also see that some who watch games (especially on tv) have other opinions , and on all players.

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        #676

        @Dan54
        Totally agree. Let's scrap the forum and blindly follow the talking points of ex-players.
        I mean....what's the point of even having opinions?

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        • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

          Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

          I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

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          #677

          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

          Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

          I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

          I was among DMac's biggest detractors on this site and even I've come around to the firmly held belief he's matured into our best option.

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          • antipodeanA antipodean

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

            Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

            I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

            I was among DMac's biggest detractors on this site and even I've come around to the firmly held belief he's matured into our best option.

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            #678

            @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

            @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

            Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

            I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

            I was among DMac's biggest detractors on this site and even I've come around to the firmly held belief he's matured into our best option.

            Agreed.

            And one of the things we need to look for this year is how well Robertson and co. develop options at 10 to back him up. Needs to look for newer talent and not harp on about RM or see BB as anything other than a short-term option.

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            • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              Razor must be a bit slow

              I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

              With or without stellar play from DMac

              DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

              There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

              once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

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              wrote on last edited by Jet
              #679

              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              Razor must be a bit slow

              I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

              With or without stellar play from DMac

              DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

              There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

              once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

              Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

              Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

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              • JetJ Jet

                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                Razor must be a bit slow

                I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                With or without stellar play from DMac

                DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                BonesB Online
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                Bones
                wrote on last edited by
                #680

                @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                Razor must be a bit slow

                I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                With or without stellar play from DMac

                DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Razor must be a bit slow

                  I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                  With or without stellar play from DMac

                  DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                  There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                  once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                  Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                  Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                  If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

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                  wrote on last edited by
                  #681

                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Razor must be a bit slow

                  I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                  With or without stellar play from DMac

                  DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                  There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                  once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                  Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                  Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                  If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                  Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                  So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

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                  • JetJ Jet

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Razor must be a bit slow

                    I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                    With or without stellar play from DMac

                    DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                    There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                    once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                    Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                    Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                    If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                    Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                    So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

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                    Bones
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #682

                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Razor must be a bit slow

                    I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                    With or without stellar play from DMac

                    DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                    There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                    once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                    Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                    Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                    If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                    Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                    So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                    You mean like DMac did?

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Razor must be a bit slow

                      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                      With or without stellar play from DMac

                      DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                      There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                      once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                      Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                      Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                      If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                      Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                      So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                      You mean like DMac did?

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                      wrote on last edited by
                      #683

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      Razor must be a bit slow

                      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                      With or without stellar play from DMac

                      DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                      There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                      once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                      Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                      Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                      If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                      Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                      So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                      You mean like DMac did?

                      Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

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                      • JetJ Jet

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Razor must be a bit slow

                        I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                        With or without stellar play from DMac

                        DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                        There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                        once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                        Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                        Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

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                        wrote on last edited by
                        #684

                        @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Razor must be a bit slow

                        I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                        With or without stellar play from DMac

                        DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                        There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                        once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                        Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                        Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                        To be fair, it's only week one of the season and both players had limited pre-seasons.

                        Suspect McKenzie, at the ver leasy, will largely be playing at 10 for the Chiefs. Barrett is a better 15 so makes sense for him to stay there when you've got Plummer as a 10 option (and then to not be played for the All Blacks...).

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                        • JetJ Jet

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Razor must be a bit slow

                          I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                          With or without stellar play from DMac

                          DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                          There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                          once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                          Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                          Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                          If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                          Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                          So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                          You mean like DMac did?

                          Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                          BonesB Online
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                          Bones
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #685

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Razor must be a bit slow

                          I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                          With or without stellar play from DMac

                          DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                          There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                          once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                          Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                          Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                          If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                          Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                          So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                          You mean like DMac did?

                          Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                          So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

                          Plus, as said - week one.

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Razor must be a bit slow

                            I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                            With or without stellar play from DMac

                            DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                            There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                            once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                            Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                            Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                            If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                            Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                            So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                            You mean like DMac did?

                            Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                            So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

                            Plus, as said - week one.

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                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Razor must be a bit slow

                            I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                            With or without stellar play from DMac

                            DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                            There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                            once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                            Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                            Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                            If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                            Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                            So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                            You mean like DMac did?

                            Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                            So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

                            Plus, as said - week one.

                            Did you see that try Jordan set up with the help of other maligned All Blacks like Havili and Reece ? Pure class.

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Razor must be a bit slow

                              I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                              With or without stellar play from DMac

                              DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                              There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                              once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                              Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                              Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                              If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                              Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                              So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                              You mean like DMac did?

                              Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                              So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

                              Plus, as said - week one.

                              Did you see that try Jordan set up with the help of other maligned All Blacks like Havili and Reece ? Pure class.

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                              #687

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Razor must be a bit slow

                              I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                              With or without stellar play from DMac

                              DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                              There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                              once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                              Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                              Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                              If Razor wants to unsuccessfully select a player out of position, that shouldn't have any bearing on SR coaches.

                              Well neither of them will be usurping IRB Fullback of the year William Thomas Jordan.

                              So they better get to sharpening their out half tools post haste if they want to play for the Allblacks.

                              You mean like DMac did?

                              Tis Williams Jersey from now on.

                              So you didn't watch the game? Got it.

                              Plus, as said - week one.

                              Did you see that try Jordan set up with the help of other maligned All Blacks like Havili and Reece ? Pure class.

                              Lelia Masaga would've scored it himself.

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                              • FrankF Frank

                                @Dan54
                                Totally agree. Let's scrap the forum and blindly follow the talking points of ex-players.
                                I mean....what's the point of even having opinions?

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                                @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Dan54
                                Totally agree. Let's scrap the forum and blindly follow the talking points of ex-players.
                                I mean....what's the point of even having opinions?

                                Why do that, it against what my post about, I saying it good to have boreds so we can have opinions. Well it is for me, as I love talking and seeing opinions no matter how much we agree or disagree. Anyone with a modicum of sense would see I pointing out how sunjective it all is. And even here how perhaps if somene has difference of opinion doesn't make him right or wrong etc.

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                                  • JetJ Jet

                                    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Razor must be a bit slow

                                    I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                                    With or without stellar play from DMac

                                    DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                                    There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                                    once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                                    Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                                    Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

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                                    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Razor must be a bit slow

                                    I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                                    With or without stellar play from DMac

                                    DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                                    There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                                    once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                                    Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                                    Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                                    McMillan said DMac is their ten. He would've been on the bench but for injuries. So he'll be ten most of the year, beaudy won't. Beaver had pointed out that beaudy looks like a fifteen playing ten, and he should know. And I hate to agree with Marshall but his point that wanting every player to be able to play multiple positions is detrimental to the player in many positions eg front row, nine, and ten

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                                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Razor must be a bit slow

                                      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                                      With or without stellar play from DMac

                                      DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                                      There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                                      once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                                      Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                                      Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                                      McMillan said DMac is their ten. He would've been on the bench but for injuries. So he'll be ten most of the year, beaudy won't. Beaver had pointed out that beaudy looks like a fifteen playing ten, and he should know. And I hate to agree with Marshall but his point that wanting every player to be able to play multiple positions is detrimental to the player in many positions eg front row, nine, and ten

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                                      @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @kiwiinmelb said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Duluth said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Razor must be a bit slow

                                      I think he'll raise it again in the next 6 months

                                      With or without stellar play from DMac

                                      DMac is so much better than Barrett at 10 right now it's not funny. How Beaudy is the AB starting 10 I have no idea.

                                      There is an accepted narrative out there that beaudy is experienced and calm, and dmac is erratic ,

                                      once people form opinions it takes a lot of convincing to change their minds

                                      Regardless of who is the better 10, its laughable that they are both playing 15 for their clubs at this juncture.

                                      Razor should be having a word with their respective teams.

                                      McMillan said DMac is their ten. He would've been on the bench but for injuries. So he'll be ten most of the year, beaudy won't. Beaver had pointed out that beaudy looks like a fifteen playing ten, and he should know. And I hate to agree with Marshall but his point that wanting every player to be able to play multiple positions is detrimental to the player in many positions eg front row, nine, and ten

                                      I actually think Marshall’s analysis isn’t so bad when he is away from the commentary role .

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Look, I love Beaudy to bits, but he is not the player he was a few years ago. For me, DMac should be the locked in 10 for the ABs; he's one of the few who creates with pass and pace. Mo'unga wsa getting better, but after 4 years in the jersey you'd expect more from him. And who knows how he comes back from Japan. He never really delivered at Test level in the 10 jersey.

                                        I've been over BB for some time and not sure Richie is/was consistently a better 10 than DMac.

                                        I was among DMac's biggest detractors on this site and even I've come around to the firmly held belief he's matured into our best option.

                                        Agreed.

                                        And one of the things we need to look for this year is how well Robertson and co. develop options at 10 to back him up. Needs to look for newer talent and not harp on about RM or see BB as anything other than a short-term option.

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        And one of the things we need to look for this year is how well Robertson and co. develop options at 10 to back him up. Needs to look for newer talent and not harp on about RM or see BB as anything other than a short-term option.

                                        fair comment.

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                                          https://www.allblacks.com/news/all-blacks-to-play-ireland-in-chicago-rematch

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