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  • R Rembrandt

    @Duluth good few months but outside of maybe Izzy the kiwi fighters will be pretty significant underdogs. Be interesting how Ulberg handles a wrestler, Pereira only just scraped past him.

    Cracking interview with Hooker here, can see why he is such a fan favourite.

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    muddyriver
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    @Rembrandt Jan is not a wrestler, he has very good Muy Thai, beat prime Izzy on the feet, destroyed Ankalaev on the feet, then lost (drew) the fight due to poor wrestling. His wrestling is ok and he has solid jiujitsu. could see him mixing it up and using takedowns if required, Ulberg much younger and more athletic as Jan now 40s?

    Dan I dont think can handle the damage of Gaethje, but love to see him win. Imo Dan has to fight outside technical, but he seems to botch it when he tries that

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      @Rembrandt Jan is not a wrestler, he has very good Muy Thai, beat prime Izzy on the feet, destroyed Ankalaev on the feet, then lost (drew) the fight due to poor wrestling. His wrestling is ok and he has solid jiujitsu. could see him mixing it up and using takedowns if required, Ulberg much younger and more athletic as Jan now 40s?

      Dan I dont think can handle the damage of Gaethje, but love to see him win. Imo Dan has to fight outside technical, but he seems to botch it when he tries that

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      Duluth
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      @muddyriver said in UFC / MMA:

      Dan I dont think can handle the damage of Gaethje, but love to see him win. Imo Dan has to fight outside technical, but he seems to botch it when he tries that

      Basically agree but the big variable is how good is Gaethje now?

      I was surprised at how much he struggled in his last fight. He looked considerably slower than in previous fights. Maybe an off night, perhaps the early head kick screwed everything up? I'm sceptical it was a one off.. the cumulative damage that guy has taken is huge

      Even if that version of Gaethje turns up he still has the power and despite the nasty KO is so durable. Still, I think Hooker would be very happy this fight is taking place in 2025 and not 2022/23

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        Rembrandt
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        Up to UFC 114 now, working my way from ufc 001. This is an absolute cracker fight.

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          Duluth
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          Strickland failed to the pull the trigger again. I was shocked that was an issue again after he publicly acknowledged the problem in the lead up to the fight

          Doubt he'll get a title shot again. I'd like to see him and Whittaker finally fight

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            W32
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            That fight (DDP Strickland) was pretty disappointing. DDP just exudes confidence, Strickland looked resigned to a beating and never looked like he was going to take control. Can’t help but think that Dana White keeps betting against DDP and losing…. What happened to UFC title defense in South Africa?

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              That fight (DDP Strickland) was pretty disappointing. DDP just exudes confidence, Strickland looked resigned to a beating and never looked like he was going to take control. Can’t help but think that Dana White keeps betting against DDP and losing…. What happened to UFC title defense in South Africa?

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              Duluth
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              @W32 said in UFC / MMA:

              That fight (DDP Strickland) was pretty disappointing. DDP just exudes confidence, Strickland looked resigned to a beating and never looked like he was going to take control.

              Strickland has done this a few times in his career. He did it against Cannonier too but came out on the right side of the split scorecards

              @W32 said in UFC / MMA:

              Can’t help but think that Dana White keeps betting against DDP and losing…. What happened to UFC title defense in South Africa?

              It's a conspiracy! Justice for DDP 🙂

              White says "I'd like to see that" to almost every question about locations. Or he'll say 'Yes that will happen'
              with no guarantees about dates. When pressed on an Africa card he said it depends on two things - a compelling card & good authorities to do business with

              A compelling card? Well I think a Nigerian card was closer 3-4 years ago than a SA card right now

              SA politicians? Hahaha. The UFC has plenty of locations begging for cards (they haven't been back to loads of places since covid) they will go to countries and states they know they can deal with first

              DDP will spend a lot of his career with his de facto home being Australia and maybe London. Similar to Adesanya who has never had a UFC fight at home. Aussie was his 'home' and the Saudi's seemed to pay money for him too

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                Strickland failed to the pull the trigger again. I was shocked that was an issue again after he publicly acknowledged the problem in the lead up to the fight

                Doubt he'll get a title shot again. I'd like to see him and Whittaker finally fight

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                @Duluth said in UFC / MMA:

                Doubt he'll get a title shot again. I'd like to see him and Whittaker finally fight

                The way he was calling Khamzat out hard during the media interviews had me thinking that will be his plan B. If he loses to Dricus then maybe beat Whittaker or another high level and hope for a Khamzat title fight if Khamzat beats Dricus.

                He's just so effectively one dimensional. Much more entertaining outside of the cage than in it.

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                  @Duluth said in UFC / MMA:

                  Doubt he'll get a title shot again. I'd like to see him and Whittaker finally fight

                  The way he was calling Khamzat out hard during the media interviews had me thinking that will be his plan B. If he loses to Dricus then maybe beat Whittaker or another high level and hope for a Khamzat title fight if Khamzat beats Dricus.

                  He's just so effectively one dimensional. Much more entertaining outside of the cage than in it.

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                  Duluth
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                  @Rembrandt

                  Also the UFC might use Strickland to test a guy like Borralho

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                    @W32 said in UFC / MMA:

                    That fight (DDP Strickland) was pretty disappointing. DDP just exudes confidence, Strickland looked resigned to a beating and never looked like he was going to take control.

                    Strickland has done this a few times in his career. He did it against Cannonier too but came out on the right side of the split scorecards

                    @W32 said in UFC / MMA:

                    Can’t help but think that Dana White keeps betting against DDP and losing…. What happened to UFC title defense in South Africa?

                    It's a conspiracy! Justice for DDP 🙂

                    White says "I'd like to see that" to almost every question about locations. Or he'll say 'Yes that will happen'
                    with no guarantees about dates. When pressed on an Africa card he said it depends on two things - a compelling card & good authorities to do business with

                    A compelling card? Well I think a Nigerian card was closer 3-4 years ago than a SA card right now

                    SA politicians? Hahaha. The UFC has plenty of locations begging for cards (they haven't been back to loads of places since covid) they will go to countries and states they know they can deal with first

                    DDP will spend a lot of his career with his de facto home being Australia and maybe London. Similar to Adesanya who has never had a UFC fight at home. Aussie was his 'home' and the Saudi's seemed to pay money for him too

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                    W32
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                    @Duluth said in UFC / MMA:

                    @W32 said in UFC / MMA:

                    That fight (DDP Strickland) was pretty disappointing. DDP just exudes confidence, Strickland looked resigned to a beating and never looked like he was going to take control.

                    Strickland has done this a few times in his career. He did it against Cannonier too but came out on the right side of the split scorecards

                    @W32 said in UFC / MMA:

                    Can’t help but think that Dana White keeps betting against DDP and losing…. What happened to UFC title defense in South Africa?

                    It's a conspiracy! Justice for DDP 🙂

                    White says "I'd like to see that" to almost every question about locations. Or he'll say 'Yes that will happen'
                    with no guarantees about dates. When pressed on an Africa card he said it depends on two things - a compelling card & good authorities to do business with

                    A compelling card? Well I think a Nigerian card was closer 3-4 years ago than a SA card right now

                    SA politicians? Hahaha. The UFC has plenty of locations begging for cards (they haven't been back to loads of places since covid) they will go to countries and states they know they can deal with first

                    DDP will spend a lot of his career with his de facto home being Australia and maybe London. Similar to Adesanya who has never had a UFC fight at home. Aussie was his 'home' and the Saudi's seemed to pay money for him too

                    Lol. Yeah fair point, I’ll put the justice for Dricus armband away.

                    And …. Afrikaner refugees set to flock to USA. This will not help SA at all, but that’s a different topic

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                      Rembrandt
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                      Big announcements today

                      Tuporia vacating title and moving up weight class, apparently they are looking to match him vs Makhachev later in the year

                      Volk vs Lopes for vacated fetherweight belt at 314
                      Della Maddalena vs Muhammed for welterweight belt at 315 with Shavkat next in line as injured currently

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                        Duluth
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                        Dan Hooker has an injured hand so the Gaethje fight is cancelled

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                          Rembrandt
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                          Damn. Would have been awesome to see him co-headline

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                            MiketheSnow
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                            That sucks

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                              JK
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                              Damm!

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                                Duluth
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                                Anyone picking against Pereira?

                                Ankalaev is good but has had trouble with the calf kick before. Pereira's calf kicks really hurt for some reason.. all the fighters mention it. Surely, despite what he's said, he has to wrestle?

                                Gaethje deserves massive credit for taking a dangerous lower ranked fighter after Hooker got injured. Surprised that Fiziev is the betting favourite. He's definitely good enough to win but he's taken the fight on short notice

                                Looking forward to seeing Ruffy fight again. He has massive potential

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                                  Rembrandt
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                                  I can't pick against Pereira. Such a fun fighter to watch, will be devastated when he does eventually get taken out. Not familiar with Fiziev again but should be cracker.

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                                    Rembrandt
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                                    Damn this is a rough sport to follow sometimes, seems like as soon as I get invested in a great fighter then they are due to fall.

                                    Ruffy was awesome, I get the hype for sure now.

                                    Lemos fight was boring.

                                    Feel for Turner, one of the first fights I saw in ufc was his loss to Rociano, apparently he's retiring? Other bloke looks the goods though, not even gonna attempt spelling his name but he was awesome at Noche.

                                    Gaethje fight was just awesome. Hookers hand might have done him a favour, reports of Gaethje's demise have been greatly exaggerated.

                                    Headline wasn't as fluid but damn tense. Hoping close enough that a rematch is on the cards. At least Pereira wasn't knocked out so still hoping my boy has the ability to get that belt back.

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                                      MiketheSnow
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                                      Spot on for all of that

                                      Pereira looked dumbfounded at times because he’s battered previous opponents

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                                        JK
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                                        Yeah pretty disappointing main event in terms of action.

                                        Surely a rematch does take place and Pereira will have to go out there looking to win it. Suspect it could be a similar result though

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                                          Rembrandt
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                                          Gee you forget how legit Rogan is as a commentator. I mean teaching GSP?!
                                          https://twitter.com/joeroganhq/status/1900248251489804471?s=19

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