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All Blacks 2025

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  • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

    I wonder if the season progresses and we see a whole lot of young lads out perform long-time ABs whether Robertson will be brave and end some careers, or whether he will give them another season pushing the form is temporary, class is permenant they are proven performers blah blah.

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    @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

    I wonder if the season progresses and we see a whole lot of young lads out perform long-time ABs whether Robertson will be brave and end some careers, or whether he will give them another season pushing the form is temporary, class is permenant they are proven performers blah blah.

    No.

    Havili and Blackadder in particular need all the opportunity and time to get back into form. I don't want any young pretenders usurping them.

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      I'd like to see a few changes in the AB squad but I fear it won't happen as experience seems to be Robertson's main criteria for his selections. New faces I'd like to see : Tavatavanawai, Tangitau, Tupaea (not really a new face but new in Robertson's squad) and Parker. However, let's see if these ones can keep on being in great form.

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        Early on in the season, however injuries could play a role. Lots of key All Blacks are playing which would normally have been rested. Waikato look to be in white hot form. The Reds are a team which also look dangerous.

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          Can confirm Razor was at Twickenham for the Six Nations so doing his research.

          I was sat right in front of the box so tried to get Raeburn Shield cards to him ☺️

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            Wonder if we could see a reshuffle of the coaching setup, if Penney gets the flick or are they going to get someone offshore, inhouse or one of the All Black assistants like Hanson or Ellison?

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            • S SBW1

              Wonder if we could see a reshuffle of the coaching setup, if Penney gets the flick or are they going to get someone offshore, inhouse or one of the All Black assistants like Hanson or Ellison?

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              @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

              Wonder if we could see a reshuffle of the coaching setup, if Penney gets the flick or are they going to get someone offshore, inhouse or one of the All Black assistants like Hanson or Ellison?

              If Penney is moved on, I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if it was to the ABs.

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                The series against France is going to be tough. They are crushing Italy away who the All Blacks really struggled against in their last test.

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                • sparkyS sparky

                  The series against France is going to be tough. They are crushing Italy away who the All Blacks really struggled against in their last test.

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                  @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                  The series against France is going to be tough. They are crushing Italy away who the All Blacks really struggled against in their last test.

                  France are bringing their dirt trackers though arent they?

                  Leaving the big guns at home I was led to believe.

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                    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                    The series against France is going to be tough. They are crushing Italy away who the All Blacks really struggled against in their last test.

                    France are bringing their dirt trackers though arent they?

                    Leaving the big guns at home I was led to believe.

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                    @Jet Let's see.

                    And even if they do rest a few of their star names, I bet they'll still bring some bloody good players hungry to turn the All Blacks over at home.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      @Jet Let's see.

                      And even if they do rest a few of their star names, I bet they'll still bring some bloody good players hungry to turn the All Blacks over at home.

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Jet Let's see.

                      And even if they do rest a few of their star names, I bet they'll still bring some bloody good players hungry to turn the All Blacks over at home.

                      Fair to say they gave Italy a proper towelling up today.

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                        I think the Highlanders (albeit it is only two games) are a pretty good case study for what the All Blacks need to do.

                        Jamie Joseph is obviously a better coach than Clark Dermody, but more than anything he is a better selector - and that is key.

                        Razor and his coaching staff are clearly very talented - you don’t have the success he had a Super Level without that. I would hope on reflection he can learn from his errors of last year and can pick with more clarity this year.

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                          I think the Highlanders (albeit it is only two games) are a pretty good case study for what the All Blacks need to do.

                          Jamie Joseph is obviously a better coach than Clark Dermody, but more than anything he is a better selector - and that is key.

                          Razor and his coaching staff are clearly very talented - you don’t have the success he had a Super Level without that. I would hope on reflection he can learn from his errors of last year and can pick with more clarity this year.

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                          @frugby 1ee80e970f7ea59a7aa5d8b63e62a567.jpg

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                          • frugbyF frugby

                            I think the Highlanders (albeit it is only two games) are a pretty good case study for what the All Blacks need to do.

                            Jamie Joseph is obviously a better coach than Clark Dermody, but more than anything he is a better selector - and that is key.

                            Razor and his coaching staff are clearly very talented - you don’t have the success he had a Super Level without that. I would hope on reflection he can learn from his errors of last year and can pick with more clarity this year.

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                            @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                            I think the Highlanders (albeit it is only two games) are a pretty good case study for what the All Blacks need to do.

                            Jamie Joseph is obviously a better coach than Clark Dermody, but more than anything he is a better selector - and that is key.

                            Razor and his coaching staff are clearly very talented - you don’t have the success he had a Super Level without that. I would hope on reflection he can learn from his errors of last year and can pick with more clarity this year.

                            yeah I'm hoping for a improvement to.last year looked like a guy who had only coached in a pond.
                            this year will be interesting

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                              @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I think the Highlanders (albeit it is only two games) are a pretty good case study for what the All Blacks need to do.

                              Jamie Joseph is obviously a better coach than Clark Dermody, but more than anything he is a better selector - and that is key.

                              Razor and his coaching staff are clearly very talented - you don’t have the success he had a Super Level without that. I would hope on reflection he can learn from his errors of last year and can pick with more clarity this year.

                              yeah I'm hoping for a improvement to.last year looked like a guy who had only coached in a pond.
                              this year will be interesting

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                              @ploughboy I think most would agree that the forwards operated pretty well… loose trio might need to evolve, but there is a plethora of options there.

                              I think Jase Ryan will like Simon Parker (was he in the XV?)

                              It was the backline that was a shambles, particularly from a depth standpoint.

                              I have been a big defender of both J Barrett and R Ioane as a midfield, but I do think a midfield of Tavatavanawai and Proctor has a certain level of intrigue to it.

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                                @frugby our loosies got consistently outplayed nearly every weekend, with injury enforced Sititi the only bright light, though he was an 8 playing 6 so we didn't have any kind of enforcer on the field. That did make things more difficult for our backs, we rarely had clean ball.

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                                  Roigard and DMac are easily our best 9 and 10, both inside and outside of NZ. If Razor can't make it work with them then he needs to hand in his resignation asap.

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                                    It is crazy to me that every posters biggest concern this year is overly conservative selections. I really thought that was a Fozzie thing and that Razor would shake things up, but all we got was the same old selections with some Crusader bias sprinkled on top, so the worst of all worlds.

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                                    • M Mr Fish

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.

                                      Barrett, Vaa'i, Lord, Tuipulotu, Holland (and an injured Darry) isn't a bad crop of options.

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                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Fabian Holland, if fit, is a near certainty to be added to the AB squad.

                                      Barrett, Vaa'i, Lord, Tuipulotu, Holland (and an injured Darry) isn't a bad crop of options.

                                      Yeah add in the front row we have and we'll be competitive with anyone in 2025.
                                      I really hope they use a quick 7.
                                      Bout time also that DMac runs the show from 10 with no interruptions.

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                                        Not buying in to @sparky 's logic.

                                        Sparky: France beat Italy by more than we did. Therefore France will beat ABs.

                                        Also Sparky: Ignores NZ beat England 3x. Eng beat France ...

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                                        • JetJ Jet

                                          Takeaways after 2 rounds of Super.

                                          Im not impressed, from an Allblack perspective, with DMAC and Beaudy playing 15 instead of 10.

                                          Ardies vanity project in Moana is a complete waste of time. They have shipped 100 points in 2 games.

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                                          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Takeaways after 2 rounds of Super.

                                          Im not impressed, from an Allblack perspective, with DMAC and Beaudy playing 15 instead of 10.

                                          Ardies vanity project in Moana is a complete waste of time. They have shipped 100 points in 2 games.

                                          i think the last bit is a bit of a beat up, the force have shipped 86 and are second on the table, i have no problem with him giving this a go, their games have been entertaining if nothing else

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