All Blacks 2025
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I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
Previous coaches have had no issue giving the boot to speedsters who lose their edge even if only by a small margin although unlike them ( well, Umaga ) he broke the norm and shifted positions VERY early.
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@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
There’s a thin line (aka Jordie Barrett try saver while holding the ball up) between a terrible coach and a great coach apparently. Ignoring the fact we were comprehensively beaten by France in the opening round and the fact that we showed absolutely no update in gameplay against South Africa. It was headless chickens on the field. The onfield leadership and adaptability of Fosters team was awful. Playing against a team like Ireland that is incredibly structured was a gift wrapped present to paper over the cracks.
And bugger-all's changed under the bloke touted as the new Messiah. If you look at the AB's abject performance in the RC, it actually got worse
One year on, we find ourselves with a still unsettled back row and a crazy situation at 10 with one decent 10 and another way past his sell by date. There's been zero development plans or back-up options at 10 - unless you consider a converted Crusaders average utility back as the answer. This because of Robertson's truly weird and bizarre obsession with Mo'unga. And we've lost key talent like Sotutu and Plummer to what looks increasingly like seriously inept player management.
But never mind. Let's ignore the lessons of what went right and why we managed to almost win RWC2023 with 14 men, and console ourselves with Foster this and Foster that, eh?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
But never mind. Let's ignore the lessons of what went right and why we managed to almost win RWC2023 with 14 men, and console ourselves with Foster this and Foster that, eh?
Oh you're going on about Foster again.
But I agree adaptability has been a problem with the ABs for some time. And bench timing. I thought our first test against England (I think) was a good use of the bench but then it went back to the meh timing of earlier years. -
I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
Previous coaches have had no issue giving the boot to speedsters who lose their edge even if only by a small margin although unlike them ( well, Umaga ) he broke the norm and shifted positions VERY early.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
Not sure about Reiko, but Rieko Ioane has some competition and needs to show some attacking flair and fire (he is lucky Proctor is injured perhaps).
Previous coaches have had no issue giving the boot to speedsters who lose their edge even if only by a small margin although unlike them ( well, Umaga ) he broke the norm and shifted positions VERY early.
I think Reece (who was never an out and out speedster) is slowing. If Jordan has lost a bit of pace that is a concern too.
Strategically it would be nice to see some fresh and unexpected talent in the outside backs.
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@dogmeat said in All Blacks 2025:
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
Not sure about Reiko, but Rieko Ioane has some competition and needs to show some attacking flair and fire (he is lucky Proctor is injured perhaps).
Previous coaches have had no issue giving the boot to speedsters who lose their edge even if only by a small margin although unlike them ( well, Umaga ) he broke the norm and shifted positions VERY early.
I think Reece (who was never an out and out speedster) is slowing. If Jordan has lost a bit of pace that is a concern too.
Strategically it would be nice to see some fresh and unexpected talent in the outside backs.
@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
Not sure about Reiko, but Rieko Ioane has some competition and needs to show some attacking flair and fire (he is lucky Proctor is injured perhaps).
Previous coaches have had no issue giving the boot to speedsters who lose their edge even if only by a small margin although unlike them ( well, Umaga ) he broke the norm and shifted positions VERY early.
I think Reece (who was never an out and out speedster) is slowing. If Jordan has lost a bit of pace that is a concern too.
Strategically it would be nice to see some fresh and unexpected talent in the outsoode backs.
Yeah I made a joke about that last year as a matter of fact.
As for the spelling I haven't had that much of a problem since Ciaran Reed was captain.
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
Not sure about Reiko, but Rieko Ioane has some competition and needs to show some attacking flair and fire (he is lucky Proctor is injured perhaps).
Previous coaches have had no issue giving the boot to speedsters who lose their edge even if only by a small margin although unlike them ( well, Umaga ) he broke the norm and shifted positions VERY early.
I think Reece (who was never an out and out speedster) is slowing. If Jordan has lost a bit of pace that is a concern too.
Strategically it would be nice to see some fresh and unexpected talent in the outsoode backs.
Yeah I made a joke about that last year as a matter of fact.
As for the spelling I haven't had that much of a problem since Ciaran Reed was captain.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
As for the spelling I haven't had that much of a problem since Ciaran Reed was captain.
<< Leaves quickly before Crusaders fans pile on >>
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I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
Previous coaches have had no issue giving the boot to speedsters who lose their edge even if only by a small margin although unlike them ( well, Umaga ) he broke the norm and shifted positions VERY early.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
I just don't know if he's stopped growing as a 13 or the game plan needs to be built more around him, but I think he really needs to kick on this year.
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Joey Manu appears to have signed with a French club for next year? Does this make him any closer to getting into the All Blacks or is it just about money?
@SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:
Joey Manu appears to have signed with a French club for next year? Does this make him any closer to getting into the All Blacks or is it just about money?
it makes him about 10,000km further away from making the ABs
Something he was never doing anyway. Stop this
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
I just don't know if he's stopped growing as a 13 or the game plan needs to be built more around him, but I think he really needs to kick on this year.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
I'm quite interested to see what kind of year Reiko Ioane has.
I just don't know if he's stopped growing as a 13 or the game plan needs to be built more around him, but I think he really needs to kick on this year.
He decided he was a centre and the coaches said ok. Really he should have been told stick to wing, as he has never been great tin the midfield regularly. He should've kicked on a couple of years ago, but he'll keep his position cos experience, I reckon.
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tbf I think the way the coaches (Fozzie, Cotter and Razor) are.trying to play with him at 13 does nothing to utilise his pace.
With the right 12 beside him, he would be lethal.
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tbf I think the way the coaches (Fozzie, Cotter and Razor) are.trying to play with him at 13 does nothing to utilise his pace.
With the right 12 beside him, he would be lethal.
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:
tbf I think the way the coaches (Fozzie, Cotter and Razor) are.trying to play with him at 13 does nothing to utilise his pace.
With the right 12 beside him, he would be lethal.
It seems so long since he has been in space it's hard to tell if he is still as fast as he was. We get the odd glimpse of his speed in defence I suppose, but it's hard to judge.
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Not great man management
Stevenson aired his frustration, speaking ahead of the Chiefs hosting the Blues in Hamilton on Saturday. He said the communication from the All Blacks, or lack of it, was “disappointing”. “Just the lack of feedback and just not knowing where I sat in the pecking order,” Stevenson said. “Obviously I was pretty injury-prone last year, so I wasn’t expecting much, but I think it’s always nice getting a bit of feedback and knowing what you need to work on,” Stevenson said. -
Not great man management
Stevenson aired his frustration, speaking ahead of the Chiefs hosting the Blues in Hamilton on Saturday. He said the communication from the All Blacks, or lack of it, was “disappointing”. “Just the lack of feedback and just not knowing where I sat in the pecking order,” Stevenson said. “Obviously I was pretty injury-prone last year, so I wasn’t expecting much, but I think it’s always nice getting a bit of feedback and knowing what you need to work on,” Stevenson said.@KiwiMurph Well I didn't get feedback either, but it is because I am not in the picture - same for him I guess
But I agree, every player in NZ that has played for ABs, MAB or ABXV should be getting some feedback from the ABs group in some way
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Not great man management
Stevenson aired his frustration, speaking ahead of the Chiefs hosting the Blues in Hamilton on Saturday. He said the communication from the All Blacks, or lack of it, was “disappointing”. “Just the lack of feedback and just not knowing where I sat in the pecking order,” Stevenson said. “Obviously I was pretty injury-prone last year, so I wasn’t expecting much, but I think it’s always nice getting a bit of feedback and knowing what you need to work on,” Stevenson said.@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
Not great man management
Stevenson aired his frustration, speaking ahead of the Chiefs hosting the Blues in Hamilton on Saturday. He said the communication from the All Blacks, or lack of it, was “disappointing”. “Just the lack of feedback and just not knowing where I sat in the pecking order,” Stevenson said. “Obviously I was pretty injury-prone last year, so I wasn’t expecting much, but I think it’s always nice getting a bit of feedback and knowing what you need to work on,” Stevenson said.Unfairly treated in his time here. He is someone who can feel hard done by.
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Not great man management
Stevenson aired his frustration, speaking ahead of the Chiefs hosting the Blues in Hamilton on Saturday. He said the communication from the All Blacks, or lack of it, was “disappointing”. “Just the lack of feedback and just not knowing where I sat in the pecking order,” Stevenson said. “Obviously I was pretty injury-prone last year, so I wasn’t expecting much, but I think it’s always nice getting a bit of feedback and knowing what you need to work on,” Stevenson said.@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
Not great man management
Stevenson aired his frustration, speaking ahead of the Chiefs hosting the Blues in Hamilton on Saturday. He said the communication from the All Blacks, or lack of it, was “disappointing”. “Just the lack of feedback and just not knowing where I sat in the pecking order,” Stevenson said. “Obviously I was pretty injury-prone last year, so I wasn’t expecting much, but I think it’s always nice getting a bit of feedback and knowing what you need to work on,” Stevenson said.Sounds like Razor has been studying up on the John Mitchell coaching handbook
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
But never mind. Let's ignore the lessons of what went right and why we managed to almost win RWC2023 with 14 men, and console ourselves with Foster this and Foster that, eh?
Oh you're going on about Foster again.
But I agree adaptability has been a problem with the ABs for some time. And bench timing. I thought our first test against England (I think) was a good use of the bench but then it went back to the meh timing of earlier years.@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
But never mind. Let's ignore the lessons of what went right and why we managed to almost win RWC2023 with 14 men, and console ourselves with Foster this and Foster that, eh?
Oh you're going on about Foster again.
But I agree adaptability has been a problem with the ABs for some time. And bench timing. I thought our first test against England (I think) was a good use of the bench but then it went back to the meh timing of earlier years.I don't think he is, he's pointing out the other poster is going on about Foster isn't he?
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I'd like to see Kirifi in the squad.
He's the best traditional 7 in the country - he leads from the front and doesn't float in and out of games.
Whilst his discipline still needs work it's miles better than it used to be
He could give the ABs something like a Kwagga Smith style player (not comparing accomplishments of the players but an example of a smaller loosie who is effective at test level).
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I'd like to see Kirifi in the squad.
He's the best traditional 7 in the country - he leads from the front and doesn't float in and out of games.
Whilst his discipline still needs work it's miles better than it used to be
He could give the ABs something like a Kwagga Smith style player (not comparing accomplishments of the players but an example of a smaller loosie who is effective at test level).
@KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:
I'd like to see Kirifi in the squad.
He's the best traditional 7 in the country - he leads from the front and doesn't float in and out of games.
Whilst his discipline still needs work it's miles better than it used to be
He could give the ABs something like a Kwagga Smith style player (not comparing accomplishments of the players but an example of a smaller loosie who is effective at test level).
Yeah, he's definitely something different and you'd never doubt his commitment. Something different from a bland homogeny of "utilities" would be great.
