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All Blacks 2025

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  • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    But never mind. Let's ignore the lessons of what went right and why we managed to almost win RWC2023 with 14 men, and console ourselves with Foster this and Foster that, eh?

    Oh you're going on about Foster again.
    But I agree adaptability has been a problem with the ABs for some time. And bench timing. I thought our first test against England (I think) was a good use of the bench but then it went back to the meh timing of earlier years.

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    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    But never mind. Let's ignore the lessons of what went right and why we managed to almost win RWC2023 with 14 men, and console ourselves with Foster this and Foster that, eh?

    Oh you're going on about Foster again.
    But I agree adaptability has been a problem with the ABs for some time. And bench timing. I thought our first test against England (I think) was a good use of the bench but then it went back to the meh timing of earlier years.

    I don't think he is, he's pointing out the other poster is going on about Foster isn't he?

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      #1056

      I'd like to see Kirifi in the squad.

      He's the best traditional 7 in the country - he leads from the front and doesn't float in and out of games.

      Whilst his discipline still needs work it's miles better than it used to be

      He could give the ABs something like a Kwagga Smith style player (not comparing accomplishments of the players but an example of a smaller loosie who is effective at test level).

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      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

        I'd like to see Kirifi in the squad.

        He's the best traditional 7 in the country - he leads from the front and doesn't float in and out of games.

        Whilst his discipline still needs work it's miles better than it used to be

        He could give the ABs something like a Kwagga Smith style player (not comparing accomplishments of the players but an example of a smaller loosie who is effective at test level).

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        #1057

        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

        I'd like to see Kirifi in the squad.

        He's the best traditional 7 in the country - he leads from the front and doesn't float in and out of games.

        Whilst his discipline still needs work it's miles better than it used to be

        He could give the ABs something like a Kwagga Smith style player (not comparing accomplishments of the players but an example of a smaller loosie who is effective at test level).

        Yeah, he's definitely something different and you'd never doubt his commitment. Something different from a bland homogeny of "utilities" would be great.

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        • canefanC canefan

          Fair to say this is a huge year for Razor. No more mucking around, his reputation as a coach is on the line, he has to show big improvement in selection, development, and tactics

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          #1058

          @canefan
          The ABs have solid players across the park now. I'm looking for a good year.
          Sincerely hope they pick on form as I think they hung onto some old fullas for too long in 2024.

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          • BonesB Bones

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

            I'd like to see Kirifi in the squad.

            He's the best traditional 7 in the country - he leads from the front and doesn't float in and out of games.

            Whilst his discipline still needs work it's miles better than it used to be

            He could give the ABs something like a Kwagga Smith style player (not comparing accomplishments of the players but an example of a smaller loosie who is effective at test level).

            Yeah, he's definitely something different and you'd never doubt his commitment. Something different from a bland homogeny of "utilities" would be great.

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            Victor Meldrew
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            #1059

            @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

            I'd like to see Kirifi in the squad.

            He's the best traditional 7 in the country - he leads from the front and doesn't float in and out of games.

            Whilst his discipline still needs work it's miles better than it used to be

            He could give the ABs something like a Kwagga Smith style player (not comparing accomplishments of the players but an example of a smaller loosie who is effective at test level).

            Yeah, he's definitely something different and you'd never doubt his commitment. Something different from a bland homogeny of "utilities" would be great.

            They'll probably turn him into a 6 to give Blackadder experience at 7.......

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            • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

              @canefan
              The ABs have solid players across the park now. I'm looking for a good year.
              Sincerely hope they pick on form as I think they hung onto some old fullas for too long in 2024.

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              Victor Meldrew
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              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

              The ABs have solid players across the park now. I'm looking for a good year.

              True, but there's also some glaring issues across the park - unsettled 6/7/8 and a midfield which needs some serious work.

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              • M Machpants

                @KiwiMurph Well I didn't get feedback either, but it is because I am not in the picture - same for him I guess

                But I agree, every player in NZ that has played for ABs, MAB or ABXV should be getting some feedback from the ABs group in some way

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                Victor Meldrew
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                #1061

                @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                @KiwiMurph Well I didn't get feedback either, but it is because I am not in the picture - same for him I guess

                But I agree, every player in NZ that has played for ABs, MAB or ABXV should be getting some feedback from the ABs group in some way

                Basic stuff when you think about it.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                  The ABs have solid players across the park now. I'm looking for a good year.

                  True, but there's also some glaring issues across the park - unsettled 6/7/8 and a midfield which needs some serious work.

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                  #1062

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                  The ABs have solid players across the park now. I'm looking for a good year.

                  True, but there's also some glaring issues across the park - unsettled 6/7/8 and a midfield which needs some serious work.

                  Yeah. I'm kinda tired of a 6/6/6. Love a greyhound at 7

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                    #1063

                    Bout time some of the young Canes got a decent run.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA Offline
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                      If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                      Razor, an email will be coming your way

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                        Razor, an email will be coming your way

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                        #1065

                        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                        If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                        Razor, an email will be coming your way

                        The way Jordan is playing this season reminds me of Jane at fullback.... just without the handling skills.

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                          Razor, an email will be coming your way

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                          #1066

                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                          If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                          Razor, an email will be coming your way

                          Remember at other international level, other Test sides (apart from Australia) kick the ball A LOT.

                          Test Rugby is a very different beast to the Super Rugby.

                          At international Rugby all your back three have to be superb under the pressure of the high kick and I'd argue that at Test level Will Jordan is best used as a 14.

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                            Razor, an email will be coming your way

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                            #1067

                            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                            If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                            Razor, an email will be coming your way

                            There's no way those two actually make your real selections, you can't waste two wings on non Cantabs and keep your Cantablacks quota up.

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Not great man management

                              Stevenson aired his frustration, speaking ahead of the Chiefs hosting the Blues in Hamilton on Saturday.
                              
                              He said the communication from the All Blacks, or lack of it, was “disappointing”.
                              
                              “Just the lack of feedback and just not knowing where I sat in the pecking order,” Stevenson said.
                              
                              “Obviously I was pretty injury-prone last year, so I wasn’t expecting much, but I think it’s always nice getting a bit of feedback and knowing what you need to work on,” Stevenson said.
                              

                              Sounds like Razor has been studying up on the John Mitchell coaching handbook

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                              @MN5 he is clearly not in the frame to even be considered, so sits with every other average super player who also don't get constant dialogue with the AB coaches…

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                              • StagS Stag

                                @MN5 he is clearly not in the frame to even be considered, so sits with every other average super player who also don't get constant dialogue with the AB coaches…

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                                #1069

                                @Stag said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @MN5 he is clearly not in the frame to even be considered, so sits with every other average super player who also don't get constant dialogue with the AB coaches…

                                Unlike most average SR players, he has at least made an AB squad in the last couple of years

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                                  Yeah, fuck that guy. Why do we need a big fast guy who runs great support lines, has a massive boot, is an unpredictable attacker, and most importantly has a linked in combination with our best attacking player. No place for that.

                                  Come back when you're in the conversation for best in the world before we'll even look at you mate.

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    Yeah, fuck that guy. Why do we need a big fast guy who runs great support lines, has a massive boot, is an unpredictable attacker, and most importantly has a linked in combination with our best attacking player. No place for that.

                                    Come back when you're in the conversation for best in the world before we'll even look at you mate.

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                                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Yeah, fuck that guy. Why do we need a big fast guy who runs great support lines, has a massive boot, is an unpredictable attacker, and most importantly has a linked in combination with our best attacking player. No place for that.

                                    Come back when you're in the conversation for best in the world before we'll even look at you mate.

                                    Bro, we have Fihaki, what more do you want?

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                                    • NepiaN Nepia

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                                      Razor, an email will be coming your way

                                      There's no way those two actually make your real selections, you can't waste two wings on non Cantabs and keep your Cantablacks quota up.

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                                      @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                                      Razor, an email will be coming your way

                                      There's no way those two actually make your real selections, you can't waste two wings on non Cantabs and keep your Cantablacks quota up.

                                      Team New Zealand moment

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                                      • NepiaN Nepia

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Yeah, fuck that guy. Why do we need a big fast guy who runs great support lines, has a massive boot, is an unpredictable attacker, and most importantly has a linked in combination with our best attacking player. No place for that.

                                        Come back when you're in the conversation for best in the world before we'll even look at you mate.

                                        Bro, we have Fihaki, what more do you want?

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                                        nostrildamus
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                                        #1073

                                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Yeah, fuck that guy. Why do we need a big fast guy who runs great support lines, has a massive boot, is an unpredictable attacker, and most importantly has a linked in combination with our best attacking player. No place for that.

                                        Come back when you're in the conversation for best in the world before we'll even look at you mate.

                                        Bro, we have Fihaki, what more do you want?

                                        Quality interrnational-level players?

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                                          Razor, an email will be coming your way

                                          The way Jordan is playing this season reminds me of Jane at fullback.... just without the handling skills.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          If it were up to me I’d pick the two 7s boys (Tangitau and Carter) on the wing with Jordan at fullback.

                                          Razor, an email will be coming your way

                                          The way Jordan is playing this season reminds me of Jane at fullback.... just without the handling skills.

                                          Or kicking skills.

                                          Other than that you’re spot on

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