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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    @nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all **about T20 ?

    It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

    Administrators love them; they generate shedloads of cash.

    But honestly, can you remember any? And 5 in a series is like 5 pieces of pie ... sounds awesome before you start, but soon overloads.

    I watched a bit yesterday, but cannot get excited about it.

    Five pieces of pie is a great analogy for T20. If it's generating the revenue needed to keep the game (i.e. test cricket) solvent, then I'm okay with that. And it does produce classics from time to time (I still remember McCullum's century at whatever Lancaster Park was called at the time vs the Aussies and a crazy finish leading to a win in a super over). But mostly its light entertainment; fine but quickly forgotten, and becomes tedious in large doses.

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    @Virgil said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Ideally the IPL gets so big and bloated it eats itself and cricket stops having to revolve around it

    Not going to happen IPL now is the most powerful beast in Cricket it generates billions nothing in cricket can compete with it.
    The danger being it will get more powerful and kill off other cricket one day cricket is in danger of eventually being discarded.
    I would hate to see it but the power in cricket are talking about it to open up avenues for more 20/20 cricket.
    20/20 is where the money is with out it Cricket in general will suffer.
    I don't watch the IPL anymore it is a monster and I now find it boring.

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  • canefanC Offline
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    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all **about T20 ?

    It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

    Administrators love them; they generate shedloads of cash.

    But honestly, can you remember any? And 5 in a series is like 5 pieces of pie ... sounds awesome before you start, but soon overloads.

    I watched a bit yesterday, but cannot get excited about it.

    Five pieces of pie is a great analogy for T20. If it's generating the revenue needed to keep the game (i.e. test cricket) solvent, then I'm okay with that. And it does produce classics from time to time (I still remember McCullum's century at whatever Lancaster Park was called at the time vs the Aussies and a crazy finish leading to a win in a super over). But mostly its light entertainment; fine but quickly forgotten, and becomes tedious in large doses.

    It's not a compelling stay on the couch all day watch like test cricket. More like a check in check out on in the background sort of thing. Or check the 15 minute highlights after

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    @canefan said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @nzzp said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Does anyone REALLY care that much **at all **about T20 ?

    It's an acquired taste. Like Moose Turd Pie

    Administrators love them; they generate shedloads of cash.

    But honestly, can you remember any? And 5 in a series is like 5 pieces of pie ... sounds awesome before you start, but soon overloads.

    I watched a bit yesterday, but cannot get excited about it.

    Five pieces of pie is a great analogy for T20. If it's generating the revenue needed to keep the game (i.e. test cricket) solvent, then I'm okay with that. And it does produce classics from time to time (I still remember McCullum's century at whatever Lancaster Park was called at the time vs the Aussies and a crazy finish leading to a win in a super over). But mostly its light entertainment; fine but quickly forgotten, and becomes tedious in large doses.

    It's not a compelling stay on the couch all day watch like test cricket. More like a check in check out on in the background sort of thing. Or check the 15 minute highlights after

    it's popular as it's a short night out, few beers with your mates, see some big hits, etc. Which is fine, but doesn't keep me engaged long term.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    It has encouraged guys to score more quickly at test level so there’s that. That’s a good thing in terms of far more results in that format.

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Duluth
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    I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

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    @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance

    I’d respectfully disagree with that. If anything T20s have made me appreciate ODIs considerably more as there is still room for more ebbs and flows in games.

    But yeah, probably still a few forgettable series, not as much as T20 though !

    The 92 World Cup was utterly captivating. The 2015 World Cup loads of fun too. The 2029 one just heartbreaking.

    20/20 has never provide anything close to that

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  • DuluthD Offline
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    @MN5

    There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

    For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

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    @Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @MN5

    There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests

    > For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50

    Yeah very much. The bowler with the ‘least shit’ run rate is lauded as doing well and I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six. Back in the day hitters like Viv Richards, Beefy and our very own Lance Cairns had to fight so much more to earn the half dozens.

    A six should still be a ‘sit up and take notice’ moment but they get monotonous when there are lots of them

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six

    I'll die on that hill with you.

    The moment a few years agon against SA when a spinner induced a shit top edge at Hamilton and it sailed over the fielder on the boundary was super frustrating.

    Golf reigned in club technology because the courses started playing too short. Cricket could consider something similar very easily

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    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    he 2029 one just heartbreaking.

    Should have posted a spoiler alert

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  • MN5M Offline
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    @dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    @MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    he 2029 one just heartbreaking.

    Should have posted a spoiler alert

    Yeah I can see into the future. They'll really need to keep an eye on Ben Stokes and I hope that stupid boundary law gets tidied up.

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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    Chapman loves Pakistan. Shame he can't play like this against everyone else. He looks so good when he's batting well too.

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  • nzzpN Offline
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    @Cyclops he looked world class tonight. Placement off the charts

    I'm getting lagered up in the stands. Good night out, despite the shit result for the women

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  • G Offline
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    wrote on last edited by Gunner
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    I know it’s Eden Park with postage stamp boundaries, but our bowling is trash!

    Too many freebie half volleys or half trackers

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    wrote on last edited by Gunner
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    I repeat, trash.

    Pakistan have this wrapped up with 6 overs to go, run rate required down to a run a ball, 9 wickets in hand.

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  • CyclopsC Offline
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    wrote on last edited by
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    Pretty tough day for both the men and the women. Both would have probably felt like they had a total that was defendable at the break, but both were probably 50+ runs short.

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  • MN5M Offline
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    Some ugly bowling figures there, only Neesh going for under 10.

    Am absolute hiding

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  • 1kiwi1 Offline
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    Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

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  • ChrisC Offline
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    @1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:

    Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.

    Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
    Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
    I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length

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