Black Caps v Pakistan
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@Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
I feel the same about ODIs and T20s. ODIs have become just as formulaic and the results feel like they lack importance
I’d respectfully disagree with that. If anything T20s have made me appreciate ODIs considerably more as there is still room for more ebbs and flows in games.
But yeah, probably still a few forgettable series, not as much as T20 though !
The 92 World Cup was utterly captivating. The 2015 World Cup loads of fun too. The 2029 one just heartbreaking.
20/20 has never provide anything close to that
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There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests
For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50
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@Duluth said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
There is no 'correct' answer.. its a preference. Personally T20's and ODIs are as interesting as each other right now. I'm sure there some people that love T20s and get bored by Tests
> For me I thinks it's because the balance has shifted too far away from the bowlers. That removes a lot of tension.. easy 6's gets boring in 20 overs and 50
Yeah very much. The bowler with the ‘least shit’ run rate is lauded as doing well and I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six. Back in the day hitters like Viv Richards, Beefy and our very own Lance Cairns had to fight so much more to earn the half dozens.
A six should still be a ‘sit up and take notice’ moment but they get monotonous when there are lots of them
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
I can’t stand mishits with modern bats in small grounds going for six
I'll die on that hill with you.
The moment a few years agon against SA when a spinner induced a shit top edge at Hamilton and it sailed over the fielder on the boundary was super frustrating.
Golf reigned in club technology because the courses started playing too short. Cricket could consider something similar very easily
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@dogmeat said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
he 2029 one just heartbreaking.
Should have posted a spoiler alert
Yeah I can see into the future. They'll really need to keep an eye on Ben Stokes and I hope that stupid boundary law gets tidied up.
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@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.
Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent length -
@Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.
Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent lengthI just want him to stay fit for the longest format.
Jamieson, O’Rourke and Henry ( can’t believe I’m saying this but his improvement has been immense ) at their best are as good as any pace trio in the game
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@Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.
Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent lengthHe is injury prone as it is I just don't believe we should risk playing him in this hit and giggle garbage. Save him for the longer formats.
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@MN5 said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.
Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent lengthI just want him to stay fit for the longest format.
Jamieson, O’Rourke and Henry ( can’t believe I’m saying this but his improvement has been immense ) at their best are as good as any pace trio in the game
Yep totally agree it is an exciting trio if they stay fit they could win us a lot of games,
They have everything as a combo
Pace, bounce move the ball both ways.
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@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@Chris said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
@1kiwi said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
Thank the lord Jamieson won't play in the remainder of the T20 series. He should never have been picked to play International T20 matches in the first place. He is a Test Match & ODI bowler.
Are you talking about the player who has figure of 3/8 off 4 overs in his previous game.
Sure he had a shitter at Eden Park every bowler did, with short boundaries that create 6 and 4s from miss hits, hard on all bowlers at that ground.
I am not writing off Jamieson in 20/20s he moves the ball both ways has height so generates awkward bounce and can hit a decent lengthHe is injury prone as it is I just don't believe we should risk playing him in this hit and giggle garbage. Save him for the longer formats.
Nah don’t agree he learns a lot playing 20/20
good way to build up just 4 overs at a time,
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@Cyclops said in Black Caps v Pakistan:
220/6 off our 20. Weird innings, got totally bogged down through the 10-16 over mark. Not sure if that's good bowling, or Allen and Seifert playing well. Feels like we're either about 30 ahead of par or 30 behind.
Good win in the end, so I guess we were well ahead of par although I think some of that was scoreboard pressure.
