All Blacks 2025
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you overly excitable highlanders blokes need to pump the brakes a little bit. jagging a couple of wins in cricket season against the dumbest Blues performance this decade, and scraping home over MP does not suddenly elevate your players to higher honours.
When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.
@mariner4life no ones saying every Highlander should be an all black, far from it, but i dont think its out of line to mention a couple of obvious standout as options to show what they can do at a higher level. I always think a small consideration is its easy to look good playing for a winning team....coughgeorgebridgecough....standing out when you have journeymen throwing passes at your shoulder or feet and on the back foot is a bit harder
Big Jim was also a stand out last year on the wing so not just a stint of good form
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you overly excitable highlanders blokes need to pump the brakes a little bit. jagging a couple of wins in cricket season against the dumbest Blues performance this decade, and scraping home over MP does not suddenly elevate your players to higher honours.
When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.
@mariner4life Tavatavanawai has consistency over a long period of time wherever he goes, was Moana and the Mako$ best player, has been the landers mvp the past 18months. If Robertson prefers to keep Havili over him so be it. I'm sure Mick Byrne's ears will perk up
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you overly excitable highlanders blokes need to pump the brakes a little bit. jagging a couple of wins in cricket season against the dumbest Blues performance this decade, and scraping home over MP does not suddenly elevate your players to higher honours.
When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
you overly excitable highlanders blokes need to pump the brakes a little bit. jagging a couple of wins in cricket season against the dumbest Blues performance this decade, and scraping home over MP does not suddenly elevate your players to higher honours.
When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.
LOL.
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you overly excitable highlanders blokes need to pump the brakes a little bit. jagging a couple of wins in cricket season against the dumbest Blues performance this decade, and scraping home over MP does not suddenly elevate your players to higher honours.
When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
Loki Crichton
Man this is a 2025 All Blacks discussion not a GOAT discussion.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
you overly excitable highlanders blokes need to pump the brakes a little bit. jagging a couple of wins in cricket season against the dumbest Blues performance this decade, and scraping home over MP does not suddenly elevate your players to higher honours.
When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.
LOL.
@Landers92 have recently been told a conversation went very well between Ryan and Hoskins, maybe the grudge has been finally buried., they both seem on the same page finally, , he has finally attended couple Blues games., that's it,
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@Landers92 have recently been told a conversation went very well between Ryan and Hoskins, maybe the grudge has been finally buried., they both seem on the same page finally, , he has finally attended couple Blues games., that's it,
@george33 good news but has that got anything to do with @Landers92 post?
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This thread could get interesting.....
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@george33 good news but has that got anything to do with @Landers92 post?
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@Kiwiwomble does it really matter, just announced it, move on.,
@george33 that just makes me NOT want to move on, you tagged him so was just trying to work out if there was some relevance i was missing
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@george33 that just makes me NOT want to move on, you tagged him so was just trying to work out if there was some relevance i was missing
@Kiwiwomble sorry, didn't realize that I tagged him, my apologies.
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@Landers92 have recently been told a conversation went very well between Ryan and Hoskins, maybe the grudge has been finally buried., they both seem on the same page finally, , he has finally attended couple Blues games., that's it,
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 have recently been told a conversation went very well between Ryan and Hoskins, maybe the grudge has been finally buried., they both seem on the same page finally, , he has finally attended couple Blues games., that's it,
Interesting, always good to hear info.
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@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 have recently been told a conversation went very well between Ryan and Hoskins, maybe the grudge has been finally buried., they both seem on the same page finally, , he has finally attended couple Blues games., that's it,
Interesting, always good to hear info.
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Is there any official line on All Black rest requirements this year? Quite varied between teams and some players being played for maximum minutes.
Could make a real difference at pointy end of the competition if enforced. Or do the extra byes and injury complications just leave coaches open to do what they want to? -
@Landers92 have recently been told a conversation went very well between Ryan and Hoskins, maybe the grudge has been finally buried., they both seem on the same page finally, , he has finally attended couple Blues games., that's it,
@george33 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 have recently been told a conversation went very well between Ryan and Hoskins, maybe the grudge has been finally buried., they both seem on the same page finally, , he has finally attended couple Blues games., that's it,
Well, he's definitely meeting the selection criteria that was set last year - he's playing for a team that's not exactly setting the world on fire.
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Is there any official line on All Black rest requirements this year? Quite varied between teams and some players being played for maximum minutes.
Could make a real difference at pointy end of the competition if enforced. Or do the extra byes and injury complications just leave coaches open to do what they want to?@ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:
Is there any official line on All Black rest requirements this year? Quite varied between teams and some players being played for maximum minutes.
Could make a real difference at pointy end of the competition if enforced. Or do the extra byes and injury complications just leave coaches open to do what they want to?Tailored to the individual
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From Herald article
That is the disappearance – or maybe more accurately, “rescoping” – of the dreaded All Blacks rest weeks. These enforced breaks have plagued the competition for nearly 20 years, ever since the dreaded rest-and-rotation debacle of 2007.
The competition has been hamstrung by having top talent sit out the best matches because of varying rules – not being able to play five matches in a row or needing to rest for two games per season were a couple of the different variations.
Hard-and-fast rules have gone out the window; now the approach is more focused on individuals, recognising that a one-size-fits all approach hardly works in rugby. -
you overly excitable highlanders blokes need to pump the brakes a little bit. jagging a couple of wins in cricket season against the dumbest Blues performance this decade, and scraping home over MP does not suddenly elevate your players to higher honours.
When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.
@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.
You're right, instead we got mainstays like Latimer and de Malmanche.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
When the Chiefs sucked did you see our fans trying to make calls for Callum Bruce and Loki Crichton to make the ABs? No, you did not.
You're right, instead we got mainstays like Latimer and de Malmanche.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
Latimer
you keep is name out yo fucken mouth
Swap him for Luke Braid or Callum Retallick then...
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Kirifi and Tangitau are two that deserve to get themselves in there.
The conversation around incumbents v uncapped is that the uncapped player has to be clearly better. If they are as good, then the incumbent stays.
As much as I really like Jim Tavatavanawai. I can't see him ever being an All Black. He is the perfect super rugby player. Just probably isn't an international quality 12 or winger. While his fetching may not be required if there are other players that bring the skillset in the team.
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:
The conversation around incumbents v uncapped is that the uncapped player has to be clearly better. If they are as good, then the incumbent stays
The incumbent needs to demonstrate the ability at test level.
Let's take Havili.
Havili was rocks and diamonds vs Chiefs but those frailties haven't been exposed by the other teams
It's no wonder when you look at those other teams Crusaders have played
- understrength Canes midfield
- understrength Reds 10-12
- understrength Force
- deadshit 2025 Blues
Carving up vs the above teams tells us exactly what in relation to Havili at test level? Fuck all
