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  • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

    If Iose can continue his form, especially in terms back end of.the.season, whereas he started on fire last year and tailed off, who knows.

    Iose looks a handy 6/8 player, but I guess if fit and in form, Blackadder does give better versatility for a squad, but being fit and in form...

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    @taniwharugby I think the only thing I'd pick an in form Blackadder over Iose for would be tackle attempts. I don't see why Iose couldn't cover 7 to the same degree (i.e McCaw at about 20%).

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Canes4life yeah he certainly played a lot "tougher" than usual yesterday, although stats would be interesting.

      Roberston won't pick any of these guys anyway (Kirifi/Iose). He's almost certain to pick world beaters like Grace and Blackadder because they've looked good at home against an understrength Force, Canes and Reds team.

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      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Canes4life yeah he certainly played a lot "tougher" than usual yesterday, although stats would be interesting.

      Roberston won't pick any of these guys anyway (Kirifi/Iose). He's almost certain to pick world beaters like Grace and Blackadder because they've looked good at home against an understrength Force, Canes and Reds team.

      Dear God.

      What next, a recall for Dallas McLeod ?

      I'm not even commenting on Blackadder, we know he's a shoe in.

      Razor press conference in June

      "Ethan has shown unbelievable character to shrug off so many injuries and get a whole season of Super Rugby under his belt. I'm so rapt that he's finally had the opportunity to show everyone how ineffective he can be at this level which will translate to test Rugby brilliantly. Picking him was as big a no brainer as picking David Havili"

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      • BonesB Bones

        @taniwharugby I think the only thing I'd pick an in form Blackadder over Iose for would be tackle attempts. I don't see why Iose couldn't cover 7 to the same degree (i.e McCaw at about 20%).

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        @Bones not saying it's right, just how I expect the coaches to see it, given thier preference for jack-of-all-trade type players instead of specialists.

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          Jason Ryan isn't a fan of Grace.

          Very little chance of him getting picked. I don't think he even made the all blacks XV last year did he?

          I'd prefer Sean Withy to Iose if we are talking about undersized 6's

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          • SammyCS SammyC

            Jason Ryan isn't a fan of Grace.

            Very little chance of him getting picked. I don't think he even made the all blacks XV last year did he?

            I'd prefer Sean Withy to Iose if we are talking about undersized 6's

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            @SammyC said in All Blacks 2025:

            Jason Ryan isn't a fan of Grace.

            Very little chance of him getting picked. I don't think he even made the all blacks XV last year did he?

            I'd prefer Sean Withy to Iose if we are talking about undersized 6's

            Is he any fitter this year, looked a bit off the pace last season.

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            • SammyCS SammyC

              Jason Ryan isn't a fan of Grace.

              Very little chance of him getting picked. I don't think he even made the all blacks XV last year did he?

              I'd prefer Sean Withy to Iose if we are talking about undersized 6's

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              @SammyC Yeah Grace didn't get in the XV squad. Haig, Flanders, Parker and Kellow were all picked over him.

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                Two players that I want to see in black this year based on Super form so far are Tangitau and Kirifi, both playing the house down.

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                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                Two players that I want to see in black this year based on Super form so far are Tangitau and Kirifi, both playing the house down.

                Kirifi has been great for years. A proper unit.

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                • S SouthernMann

                  There is something about seeing a big dude running from the back fence. Seeing Iose doing it last night was awesome.

                  But as @Canes4life says we can expdxt Blackadder, Grace and Lio-Willie to make it.

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                  @SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:

                  There is something about seeing a big dude running from the back fence. Seeing Iose doing it last night was awesome.

                  But as @Canes4life says we can expdxt Blackadder, Grace and Lio-Willie to make it.

                  Harry Wilson loves to wind up and have a go at some shoulders from distance.

                  He is game as fuck.

                  He always stands out to me in the "run it straight bro" stakes.

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                  • MN5M MN5

                    @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @Canes4life yeah he certainly played a lot "tougher" than usual yesterday, although stats would be interesting.

                    Roberston won't pick any of these guys anyway (Kirifi/Iose). He's almost certain to pick world beaters like Grace and Blackadder because they've looked good at home against an understrength Force, Canes and Reds team.

                    Dear God.

                    What next, a recall for Dallas McLeod ?

                    I'm not even commenting on Blackadder, we know he's a shoe in.

                    Razor press conference in June

                    "Ethan has shown unbelievable character to shrug off so many injuries and get a whole season of Super Rugby under his belt. I'm so rapt that he's finally had the opportunity to show everyone how ineffective he can be at this level which will translate to test Rugby brilliantly. Picking him was as big a no brainer as picking David Havili"

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                    @MN5 Blackadder reminds me of the chaser of lost causes .

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                      #1276

                      I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

                      But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

                      Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

                      Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

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                      • boobooB booboo

                        I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

                        But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

                        Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

                        Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

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                        @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                        I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

                        But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

                        Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

                        Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

                        How is he "vanilla" especially compared to the incumbent AB loose forwards. I thought his mongrel was a bit of a point of difference ?

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                          SBW1
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                          Hurricanes coming into some really lethal form this week. Looking quite resurgant, our other Kiwis teams somewhat flat. Highlanders have some really awesome young players, man they need the rub of the green.

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                            Hurricanes coming into some really lethal form this week. Looking quite resurgant, our other Kiwis teams somewhat flat. Highlanders have some really awesome young players, man they need the rub of the green.

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                            @SBW1 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Hurricanes coming into some really lethal form this week. Looking quite resurgant, our other Kiwis teams somewhat flat. Highlanders have some really awesome young players, man they need the rub of the green.

                            Still have a few players to return yet as well. But the forwards were really cooking, and the backs led by Cam, Hohepa and Love did well. The midfield combo, especially Sullivan, played great

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                              @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

                              But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

                              Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

                              Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

                              How is he "vanilla" especially compared to the incumbent AB loose forwards. I thought his mongrel was a bit of a point of difference ?

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                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                              I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

                              But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

                              Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

                              Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

                              How is he "vanilla" especially compared to the incumbent AB loose forwards. I thought his mongrel was a bit of a point of difference ?

                              Comprehension not your strong point? How is he? Or how did I think he was?

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                              • boobooB booboo

                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

                                But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

                                Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

                                Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

                                How is he "vanilla" especially compared to the incumbent AB loose forwards. I thought his mongrel was a bit of a point of difference ?

                                Comprehension not your strong point? How is he? Or how did I think he was?

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                                @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

                                But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

                                Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

                                Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

                                How is he "vanilla" especially compared to the incumbent AB loose forwards. I thought his mongrel was a bit of a point of difference ?

                                Comprehension not tour strong point? How is he? Or how did I think he was?

                                *your.

                                I was wondering how you thought he was, that's all !

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                                • MN5M MN5

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

                                  But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

                                  Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

                                  Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

                                  How is he "vanilla" especially compared to the incumbent AB loose forwards. I thought his mongrel was a bit of a point of difference ?

                                  Comprehension not tour strong point? How is he? Or how did I think he was?

                                  *your.

                                  I was wondering how you thought he was, that's all !

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                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  I've come around to Kirifi. Always thought he was a bit vanilla and too small.

                                  But he plays "bigger" than that, and is a gun at t/os.

                                  Happy with him in the squad. (My starting 3 are Ardie at 7 (yes, that), Sititi at 8, Finau at 6.

                                  Not on board with the Wellicane Mafia about Iose. Yet.

                                  How is he "vanilla" especially compared to the incumbent AB loose forwards. I thought his mongrel was a bit of a point of difference ?

                                  Comprehension not tour strong point? How is he? Or how did I think he was?

                                  *your.

                                  I was wondering how you thought he was, that's all !

                                  He was.

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                                    Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

                                      That's what vanilla means, yes

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

                                        That's what vanilla means, yes

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                                        @Machpants said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Huh, I always assume vanilla is used to describe bland players that don't stand out.

                                        That's what vanilla means, yes

                                        Apparently not.

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                                          On what we have seen from Super this year, I thinking only a couple at most, will sneak in There is no way ABs are going to be playing the same style as super rugby teams. I can see Fabian Holland being in squad, and personally I would have a couple of others (maybe Kirifi and Tangitau), but somehow I doubt they will get picked.

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