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  • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

    Tangitau let himself down last night. Given his greenness, that performance may have given the selectors the yips for this year. He can't afford any more games like that.

    What did he do that was so bad? If that performance is something that would give these selectors the yips, it becomes even more thoroughly confusing how Fihaki gets selected.

    Dropped ball, passed to nobody... He had a poor game.

    Wasnt he subbed earlyish following a mistake? Or am I thinking of someone else?

    But yeah you're right, it won't give the selectors the yips.

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    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

    Tangitau let himself down last night. Given his greenness, that performance may have given the selectors the yips for this year. He can't afford any more games like that.

    What did he do that was so bad? If that performance is something that would give these selectors the yips, it becomes even more thoroughly confusing how Fihaki gets selected.

    Dropped ball, passed to nobody... He had a poor game.

    Wasnt he subbed earlyish following a mistake? Or am I thinking of someone else?

    But yeah you're right, it won't give the selectors the yips.

    Had a poor game for the standards he's set so far, yeah. But no worse than those selected last year, he just wasn't ridiculously good for once. Not sure why he was subbed, but it would be odd if it was for a couple of mistakes when that didn't apply to anyone else.

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      Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

      He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

      As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

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        Would be far more positive around Fihaki if he were playing in the midfield or even fullback. He's clearly not an international winger though.

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        • Landers92L Landers92

          Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

          He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

          As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

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          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

          Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

          He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

          As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

          Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

          Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

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          • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

            Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

            He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

            As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

            Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

            Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

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            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

            Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

            He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

            As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

            Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

            Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

            Sensitive is a reach, I’m just pointing out it’s taken until week 8 to have for him to have a stinker and some couldn’t wait to get the forks out. Everyone has their bad games, this is a guy we should be hoping can learn from last night and bounce back in a big way. Absolutely no reason he can’t own a spot in the ABs this year if given a chance(other than selectors staying with the usual of course).

            Yeah regarding Fihaki, I’ve said enough there. Way down the list on AB wing candidates in my opinion. Razors though, different story I’m sure.

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            • Landers92L Landers92

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

              Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

              He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

              As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

              Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

              Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

              Sensitive is a reach, I’m just pointing out it’s taken until week 8 to have for him to have a stinker and some couldn’t wait to get the forks out. Everyone has their bad games, this is a guy we should be hoping can learn from last night and bounce back in a big way. Absolutely no reason he can’t own a spot in the ABs this year if given a chance(other than selectors staying with the usual of course).

              Yeah regarding Fihaki, I’ve said enough there. Way down the list on AB wing candidates in my opinion. Razors though, different story I’m sure.

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              @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

              Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

              He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

              As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

              Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

              Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

              Sensitive is a reach, I’m just pointing out it’s taken until week 8 to have for him to have a stinker and some couldn’t wait to get the forks out. Everyone has their bad games, this is a guy we should be hoping can learn from last night and bounce back in a big way. Absolutely no reason he can’t own a spot in the ABs this year if given a chance(other than selectors staying with the usual of course).

              Yeah regarding Fihaki, I’ve said enough there. Way down the list on AB wing candidates in my opinion. Razors though, different story I’m sure.

              It's hardly getting the forks out.

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              • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

                He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

                As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

                Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

                Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

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                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

                Seems there's all sorts of reaching going on!

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                • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

                  He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

                  As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

                  Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

                  Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

                  Sensitive is a reach, I’m just pointing out it’s taken until week 8 to have for him to have a stinker and some couldn’t wait to get the forks out. Everyone has their bad games, this is a guy we should be hoping can learn from last night and bounce back in a big way. Absolutely no reason he can’t own a spot in the ABs this year if given a chance(other than selectors staying with the usual of course).

                  Yeah regarding Fihaki, I’ve said enough there. Way down the list on AB wing candidates in my opinion. Razors though, different story I’m sure.

                  It's hardly getting the forks out.

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                  #1390

                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

                  He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

                  As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

                  Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

                  Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

                  Sensitive is a reach, I’m just pointing out it’s taken until week 8 to have for him to have a stinker and some couldn’t wait to get the forks out. Everyone has their bad games, this is a guy we should be hoping can learn from last night and bounce back in a big way. Absolutely no reason he can’t own a spot in the ABs this year if given a chance(other than selectors staying with the usual of course).

                  Yeah regarding Fihaki, I’ve said enough there. Way down the list on AB wing candidates in my opinion. Razors though, different story I’m sure.

                  It's hardly getting the forks out.

                  I wouldn’t say you particularly have the forks out, no. But the closest example I’ve seen on here so used it. Others I’ve seen across multiple other platforms though, yes. It’s a shame that’s how it can be, and NZ fans can be really bad for it. Dmac treatment is the best example.

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                  • R reprobate

                    doesn't look explosive enough to me. He's a big boy, handy in the air, reasonably quick, and a big boot - those are all good things, but without super quick acceleration and agression and evasiveness, i wouldn't pick him on the wing. he's just kinda a brown jordie barret no?

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                    @reprobate said in All Blacks 2025:

                    doesn't look explosive enough to me. He's a big boy, handy in the air, reasonably quick, and a big boot - those are all good things, but without super quick acceleration and agression and evasiveness, i wouldn't pick him on the wing. he's just kinda a brown jordie barret no?

                    That would make a good terrace chant.
                    “You’re just a brown Jordie Barrett…brooowwnn Jordie Barrett!”

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                    • BonesB Bones

                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                      I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

                      Seems there's all sorts of reaching going on!

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                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                      I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

                      Seems there's all sorts of reaching going on!

                      Probaby! But for someone who has had to watch him in teams I support I don't recall being frustrated with him because he has brain farts/ shocking moments like Stevenson can produce from time to time. There are other reasons to be frustrated.

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                      • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                        oh yeah totally, i mean Conrad was a noted crash ball specialist who did his best work right on teh shoulder of his inside, playing flat as hell. He also had noted pace which would allow him to operate a narrow defensive channel and still get out and cover the wide players.

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                        @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                        oh yeah totally, i mean Conrad was a noted crash ball specialist who did his best work right on teh shoulder of his inside, playing flat as hell. He also had noted pace which would allow him to operate a narrow defensive channel and still get out and cover the wide players.

                        I've always thought of Conrad Smith as an averagely-skilled international 13 with an extraordinary rugby brain and ability to read a game. The word "cerebral" comes to mind. Tough bastard too.

                        Hard to remember him doing anything spectacular on a rugby pitch. Even harder to recall him not being absolutely brilliant at being in the right place at the right time and doing exactly what was needed.

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                        • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                          @mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                          oh yeah totally, i mean Conrad was a noted crash ball specialist who did his best work right on teh shoulder of his inside, playing flat as hell. He also had noted pace which would allow him to operate a narrow defensive channel and still get out and cover the wide players.

                          I've always thought of Conrad Smith as an averagely-skilled international 13 with an extraordinary rugby brain and ability to read a game. The word "cerebral" comes to mind. Tough bastard too.

                          Hard to remember him doing anything spectacular on a rugby pitch. Even harder to recall him not being absolutely brilliant at being in the right place at the right time and doing exactly what was needed.

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                          @Victor-Meldrew Agree on that. Huge Conrad fan, probably the second the best centre I have ever seen in ABs, But not really sure you would want 15 players like him on the field. He was the glue that held a lot of star players together, and I believe without him a number may not have looked quite so good? It was the mistake free stuff that made him so bloody good!

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                          • Landers92L Landers92

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

                            He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

                            As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

                            Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

                            Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

                            Sensitive is a reach, I’m just pointing out it’s taken until week 8 to have for him to have a stinker and some couldn’t wait to get the forks out. Everyone has their bad games, this is a guy we should be hoping can learn from last night and bounce back in a big way. Absolutely no reason he can’t own a spot in the ABs this year if given a chance(other than selectors staying with the usual of course).

                            Yeah regarding Fihaki, I’ve said enough there. Way down the list on AB wing candidates in my opinion. Razors though, different story I’m sure.

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                            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Classic. 1 below par game for Tangitau, a stand out of the competition that NZ fans should all be excited about but people can’t wait to jump on him when something goes wrong.

                            He was subbed early yes, but it wasn’t after a mistake. It was at halftime.

                            As for Fihaki, if he gets named in the all blacks then we should consider ourselves in trouble, not only on the field but with the guys selecting him in the first place. We are talking about a guy who considered himself a fullback, yet couldn’t beat out Hutchinson to be the starting fullback for Canterbury in the NPC… does Fihaki have some nice moments? Sure. But let’s not ignore the fact he just flat out is not near AB level… always happy to be proven wrong because it would benefit NZ rugby, but I just don’t see it. It’s debatable whether he’s even the second best winger in the Crusaders…

                            Don't be so sensitive. He had a poor game and I speculated that it might harm his selection chances, especially if he has more poor games. Our selectors haven't exactly shown an adventurous spirit so far have they?

                            Agree re Fihaki (but I suppose that was an adventurous selection). I have been scratching my head over Fihaki for years. I have not liked him at NPC level yet alone Super level, but this year he is looking Super level (not AB level before anyone jumps up and down). The only reason I can see why they may have selected him is they were looking for a fullback/wing option. I see Fihaki and Stevenson as similar type players with Stevenson having greater highs and greater lows than Fihaki.

                            Sensitive is a reach, I’m just pointing out it’s taken until week 8 to have for him to have a stinker and some couldn’t wait to get the forks out. Everyone has their bad games, this is a guy we should be hoping can learn from last night and bounce back in a big way. Absolutely no reason he can’t own a spot in the ABs this year if given a chance(other than selectors staying with the usual of course).

                            Yeah regarding Fihaki, I’ve said enough there. Way down the list on AB wing candidates in my opinion. Razors though, different story I’m sure.

                            Yeah, I know what you mean, plenty of other players who get thr same treatment after a below par game.

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                              Some interesting info about what the top tier rugby players can earn. You can understand why an overseas contract is so attractive to the level below that.

                              Lendrum said NZ Rugby’s wage structure offered elite talent up to a $1 million a year before Super Rugby and provincial pay and test assembly fees - which can add more than $300,000 - were included.

                              https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360640386/new-zealand-rugby-reveals-where-player-retention-most-challenging-and-what-top-all-blacks-can-earn

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                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I fully expect him to be picked, but Blackadder is looking even more average than I thought he would in SR. I really don't get the attraction.

                                You need to be more patient. He’s coming back from an injury

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                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                I fully expect him to be picked, but Blackadder is looking even more average than I thought he would in SR. I really don't get the attraction.

                                You need to be more patient. He’s coming back from an injury

                                Been taking some subtlety supplements?!

                                https://media.tenor.com/Gl5d0rt2A50AAAA1/arnold-schwarzenegger-getting-ready.webp

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                                  Loosies selection could be very interesting this year.

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                                    Loosies selection could be very interesting this year.

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                                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Loosies selection could be very interesting this year.

                                    If by interesting you mean exactly the same you may have a point. I can't see Papalii, Blackadder and Jacobsen not being selected.

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                                      Luke Jacobson for mine is the forward version of Anton lienert-Brown, would love to have them in my super rugby side but at All Black level I'm less enthusiastic about them

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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Loosies selection could be very interesting this year.

                                        If by interesting you mean exactly the same you may have a point. I can't see Papalii, Blackadder and Jacobsen not being selected.

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                                        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        I can't see Papalii, Blackadder and Jacobsen not being selected.

                                        Papalii was on the outer at the end of last season - Cane was constantly selected ahead of him and then from memory Razor didn't bother bringing him across on the End Of Year Tour even when Papalii was supposedly fit again mid-tour

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                                          I agree with Hinton

                                          It's not necessarily the NZR decision to not support an ANZAC Bledisloe that annoys me it's Robinson's god awful communication style.

                                          His PR skills are abysmal and are not improving - I don't think he understands the concept of "perception = reality".

                                          https://www.thepress.co.nz/sport/360639315/nz-rugbys-breezy-dismissal-anzac-bledisloe-kick-guts-trans-tasman-relations

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