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  • TimT Tim

    Any of the Moana Pasifika players in with a chance of selection this year?

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    @Tim not really apart from the obvious one , Kyren Taumoefolau once he completes his 3 year standown will be available in 2027

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    • S Steven Harris

      @canefan Rassie gets it the French are now doing it

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      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

      @canefan Rassie gets it the French are now doing it

      We used to be Rugby's innovators. But we have got lazy.

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      • MN5M MN5

        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Bovidae for me Jacobson has quite a wiry shape he is athletic which means he can play in all 3 positions and is extremley mobile but i dont see him as an out and out impact player , Blackadder very similar ..
        Gee i look at what the Wallabies can have got in terms of impact in the loose forwards off the bench and i have got to say it looks better than what we have

        Jacobsen, Blackadder and Papalii are all much of a muchness in terms of size but none of them really consistently play like it.

        Judging by this I'd put the average weight of the three of them at about 108.15kg.

        I'd have a more accurate gauge if Nepo Laulala got out of the photo

        295729fa-09fd-4b83-9389-9a1fc8927573-image.png

        That photo reminds me how much we are going to miss Wallace this test season

        I reckon.

        How many scoops of vanilla can a team tolerate ?

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        @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

        vanilla

        https://media.tenor.com/9NPbx2HWDrQAAAAM/i-see-what-you-did-there-akeem.gif

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          Some interesting info about what the top tier rugby players can earn. You can understand why an overseas contract is so attractive to the level below that.

          Lendrum said NZ Rugby’s wage structure offered elite talent up to a $1 million a year before Super Rugby and provincial pay and test assembly fees - which can add more than $300,000 - were included.

          https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360640386/new-zealand-rugby-reveals-where-player-retention-most-challenging-and-what-top-all-blacks-can-earn

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          @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

          Some interesting info about what the top tier rugby players can earn. You can understand why an overseas contract is so attractive to the level below that.

          Lendrum said NZ Rugby’s wage structure offered elite talent up to a $1 million a year before Super Rugby and provincial pay and test assembly fees - which can add more than $300,000 - were included.

          https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360640386/new-zealand-rugby-reveals-where-player-retention-most-challenging-and-what-top-all-blacks-can-earn

          “but all players who choose to stay in New Zealand are often staying for between 30% and 100% less of what is on offer abroad.”

          I’d hate to earn 100% less than I could potentially early somewhere else

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          • voodooV voodoo

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

            Some interesting info about what the top tier rugby players can earn. You can understand why an overseas contract is so attractive to the level below that.

            Lendrum said NZ Rugby’s wage structure offered elite talent up to a $1 million a year before Super Rugby and provincial pay and test assembly fees - which can add more than $300,000 - were included.

            https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360640386/new-zealand-rugby-reveals-where-player-retention-most-challenging-and-what-top-all-blacks-can-earn

            “but all players who choose to stay in New Zealand are often staying for between 30% and 100% less of what is on offer abroad.”

            I’d hate to earn 100% less than I could potentially early somewhere else

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            @voodoo said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

            Some interesting info about what the top tier rugby players can earn. You can understand why an overseas contract is so attractive to the level below that.

            Lendrum said NZ Rugby’s wage structure offered elite talent up to a $1 million a year before Super Rugby and provincial pay and test assembly fees - which can add more than $300,000 - were included.

            https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360640386/new-zealand-rugby-reveals-where-player-retention-most-challenging-and-what-top-all-blacks-can-earn

            “but all players who choose to stay in New Zealand are often staying for between 30% and 100% less of what is on offer abroad.”

            I’d hate to earn 100% less than I could potentially early somewhere else

            That article made me wonder if the overseas eligibility rule is realistically sustainable.

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              Back to Marc Hinton.

              He's a journo whose opinion columns I invariably disagree with.

              Loved it when Kane Hames put him in his place (MH challenged him about his scrummaging ability, KH replied something like he gets paid to work as hard as he can to do his job well, unlike some journalists).

              I'd personally disregard anything Hinton spouted.

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              • boobooB booboo

                Back to Marc Hinton.

                He's a journo whose opinion columns I invariably disagree with.

                Loved it when Kane Hames put him in his place (MH challenged him about his scrummaging ability, KH replied something like he gets paid to work as hard as he can to do his job well, unlike some journalists).

                I'd personally disregard anything Hinton spouted.

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                @booboo said in All Blacks 2025:

                I'd personally disregard anything Hinton spouted.

                I've called him out for being a BB fluffer. I bet he writes his articles before the games.

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                • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                  @voodoo said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Some interesting info about what the top tier rugby players can earn. You can understand why an overseas contract is so attractive to the level below that.

                  Lendrum said NZ Rugby’s wage structure offered elite talent up to a $1 million a year before Super Rugby and provincial pay and test assembly fees - which can add more than $300,000 - were included.

                  https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360640386/new-zealand-rugby-reveals-where-player-retention-most-challenging-and-what-top-all-blacks-can-earn

                  “but all players who choose to stay in New Zealand are often staying for between 30% and 100% less of what is on offer abroad.”

                  I’d hate to earn 100% less than I could potentially early somewhere else

                  That article made me wonder if the overseas eligibility rule is realistically sustainable.

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                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @voodoo said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                  Some interesting info about what the top tier rugby players can earn. You can understand why an overseas contract is so attractive to the level below that.

                  Lendrum said NZ Rugby’s wage structure offered elite talent up to a $1 million a year before Super Rugby and provincial pay and test assembly fees - which can add more than $300,000 - were included.

                  https://www.thepost.co.nz/sport/360640386/new-zealand-rugby-reveals-where-player-retention-most-challenging-and-what-top-all-blacks-can-earn

                  “but all players who choose to stay in New Zealand are often staying for between 30% and 100% less of what is on offer abroad.”

                  I’d hate to earn 100% less than I could potentially early somewhere else

                  That article made me wonder if the overseas eligibility rule is realistically sustainable.

                  Yep, but not really ABs who are losing the 100%, they more the 30% ones.

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                    And speaking of players overseas , and really I think he will be 2026, I was watching Toulon game other day, and Leicester Fainga'anuku is certainly looking very good at 13. I know it's only one game etc, but he certainly looked very comfortable and good there.

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                      I was bummed when he left
                      He is a better 13 than anyone we currently have.

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                      • Dan54D Dan54

                        And speaking of players overseas , and really I think he will be 2026, I was watching Toulon game other day, and Leicester Fainga'anuku is certainly looking very good at 13. I know it's only one game etc, but he certainly looked very comfortable and good there.

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                        @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        And speaking of players overseas , and really I think he will be 2026, I was watching Toulon game other day, and Leicester Fainga'anuku is certainly looking very good at 13. I know it's only one game etc, but he certainly looked very comfortable and good there.

                        He has been very good at 13 for Toulon all season and last season.
                        the Crusaders are looking to use him at 13 as well as wing in 2026.

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                        • canefanC canefan

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bovidae for me Jacobson has quite a wiry shape he is athletic which means he can play in all 3 positions and is extremley mobile but i dont see him as an out and out impact player , Blackadder very similar ..
                          Gee i look at what the Wallabies can have got in terms of impact in the loose forwards off the bench and i have got to say it looks better than what we have

                          Jacobsen, Blackadder and Papalii are all much of a muchness in terms of size but none of them really consistently play like it.

                          Judging by this I'd put the average weight of the three of them at about 108.15kg.

                          I'd have a more accurate gauge if Nepo Laulala got out of the photo

                          295729fa-09fd-4b83-9389-9a1fc8927573-image.png

                          That photo reminds me how much we are going to miss Wallace this test season

                          I reckon.

                          How many scoops of vanilla can a team tolerate ?

                          We show no imagination in our bench selections. All of these guys, ALB, DH, they are not impact players. The saffas are so much more in tune with the impact concept, which is depressing

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                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bovidae for me Jacobson has quite a wiry shape he is athletic which means he can play in all 3 positions and is extremley mobile but i dont see him as an out and out impact player , Blackadder very similar ..
                          Gee i look at what the Wallabies can have got in terms of impact in the loose forwards off the bench and i have got to say it looks better than what we have

                          Jacobsen, Blackadder and Papalii are all much of a muchness in terms of size but none of them really consistently play like it.

                          Judging by this I'd put the average weight of the three of them at about 108.15kg.

                          I'd have a more accurate gauge if Nepo Laulala got out of the photo

                          295729fa-09fd-4b83-9389-9a1fc8927573-image.png

                          That photo reminds me how much we are going to miss Wallace this test season

                          I reckon.

                          How many scoops of vanilla can a team tolerate ?

                          We show no imagination in our bench selections. All of these guys, ALB, DH, they are not impact players. The saffas are so much more in tune with the impact concept, which is depressing

                          Yeah but those three are all much the same size as Kieran Read, wouldn't it be nice if one of them had a similar impact as he did ?

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                          • J Jet

                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Ruben Love should be in the main squad this year. Absolutely ready for the big time.

                            I have a horn on me a cat wouldnt scratch to see him play 10.

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                            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Ruben Love should be in the main squad this year. Absolutely ready for the big time.

                            I have a horn on me a cat wouldnt scratch to see him play 10.

                            Gets an audition at fly half this weekend if the rumours are true.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              And speaking of players overseas , and really I think he will be 2026, I was watching Toulon game other day, and Leicester Fainga'anuku is certainly looking very good at 13. I know it's only one game etc, but he certainly looked very comfortable and good there.

                              He has been very good at 13 for Toulon all season and last season.
                              the Crusaders are looking to use him at 13 as well as wing in 2026.

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                              @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              And speaking of players overseas , and really I think he will be 2026, I was watching Toulon game other day, and Leicester Fainga'anuku is certainly looking very good at 13. I know it's only one game etc, but he certainly looked very comfortable and good there.

                              He has been very good at 13 for Toulon all season and last season.
                              the Crusaders are looking to use him at 13 as well as wing in 2026.

                              I have just been watching the highlights of the game from weekend, and genuinely think I may have been a bit generous to LF in some ways. As I said, only highlights, and was watching LF because of what I thought last week.
                              Although he looked pretty good in attack, his work in defence in first half was pretty woeful at times, to the point he actually look disinterested.

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                              • Dan54D Dan54

                                @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                And speaking of players overseas , and really I think he will be 2026, I was watching Toulon game other day, and Leicester Fainga'anuku is certainly looking very good at 13. I know it's only one game etc, but he certainly looked very comfortable and good there.

                                He has been very good at 13 for Toulon all season and last season.
                                the Crusaders are looking to use him at 13 as well as wing in 2026.

                                I have just been watching the highlights of the game from weekend, and genuinely think I may have been a bit generous to LF in some ways. As I said, only highlights, and was watching LF because of what I thought last week.
                                Although he looked pretty good in attack, his work in defence in first half was pretty woeful at times, to the point he actually look disinterested.

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                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                And speaking of players overseas , and really I think he will be 2026, I was watching Toulon game other day, and Leicester Fainga'anuku is certainly looking very good at 13. I know it's only one game etc, but he certainly looked very comfortable and good there.

                                He has been very good at 13 for Toulon all season and last season.
                                the Crusaders are looking to use him at 13 as well as wing in 2026.

                                I have just been watching the highlights of the game from weekend, and genuinely think I may have been a bit generous to LF in some ways. As I said, only highlights, and was watching LF because of what I thought last week.
                                Although he looked pretty good in attack, his work in defence in first half was pretty woeful at times, to the point he actually look disinterested.

                                I have not seen his latest game. But I have been keeping an eye on his other games this season and last and he was very good on D and on attack ,interesting on your comments on his latest game.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  And speaking of players overseas , and really I think he will be 2026, I was watching Toulon game other day, and Leicester Fainga'anuku is certainly looking very good at 13. I know it's only one game etc, but he certainly looked very comfortable and good there.

                                  He has been very good at 13 for Toulon all season and last season.
                                  the Crusaders are looking to use him at 13 as well as wing in 2026.

                                  I have just been watching the highlights of the game from weekend, and genuinely think I may have been a bit generous to LF in some ways. As I said, only highlights, and was watching LF because of what I thought last week.
                                  Although he looked pretty good in attack, his work in defence in first half was pretty woeful at times, to the point he actually look disinterested.

                                  I have not seen his latest game. But I have been keeping an eye on his other games this season and last and he was very good on D and on attack ,interesting on your comments on his latest game.

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                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Dan54 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  And speaking of players overseas , and really I think he will be 2026, I was watching Toulon game other day, and Leicester Fainga'anuku is certainly looking very good at 13. I know it's only one game etc, but he certainly looked very comfortable and good there.

                                  He has been very good at 13 for Toulon all season and last season.
                                  the Crusaders are looking to use him at 13 as well as wing in 2026.

                                  I have just been watching the highlights of the game from weekend, and genuinely think I may have been a bit generous to LF in some ways. As I said, only highlights, and was watching LF because of what I thought last week.
                                  Although he looked pretty good in attack, his work in defence in first half was pretty woeful at times, to the point he actually look disinterested.

                                  I have not seen his latest game. But I have been keeping an eye on his other games this season and last and he was very good on D and on attack ,interesting on your comments on his latest game.

                                  Yep Chris, I thought he was good on attack, just noticed his defence (or lack of)in a highlights package. I not judging him harshly on that, and that's why I made sure I said it was only highlights, not whole game. And they may of stood out because I was watching him,.

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                                    I would be interested, now that we are a little over half way through the comp, what you blokes would pick as your AB 23 for a hypothetical first test.
                                    Not interested in what you think the selectors would do, but who YOU would select.

                                    Be interesting to see if there are a lot of consensus picks

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                                      I would be interested, now that we are a little over half way through the comp, what you blokes would pick as your AB 23 for a hypothetical first test.
                                      Not interested in what you think the selectors would do, but who YOU would select.

                                      Be interesting to see if there are a lot of consensus picks

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                                      Dmac would be the first name we'd be most inline on, but after that it does get a little tricky. I'm not even sure that Roigard has been playing that well, but I think he still gets the 9 jersey.

                                      I can see some shit fights at loosies, midfield, wing, well, fuck everywhere else.

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                                          If one of the courses is Be Shit and Lose Park, then yes, BB is definitely the horse for that.

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