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Hurricanes vs Crusaders

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  • M Mr Fish

    @frugby said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    It's games like these that gets guys selected for the All Blacks. You look at the Hurricanes, and obviously guys can have quiet games, but Numia, Kirifi and Love have been comfortably outplayed by their opposites - who are all established ABs. Lio-Willie is not everyone's cup of tea, but he consistenly stands out in these games, and I think is well on course for the ABs.

    Don't think CLW will ever play for the ABs - too small. Was on the EOYT last year and there were plenty of opportunities to give him some minutes but Razor decided not to.

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    @Mr-Fish said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    @frugby said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

    It's games like these that gets guys selected for the All Blacks. You look at the Hurricanes, and obviously guys can have quiet games, but Numia, Kirifi and Love have been comfortably outplayed by their opposites - who are all established ABs. Lio-Willie is not everyone's cup of tea, but he consistenly stands out in these games, and I think is well on course for the ABs.

    Don't think CLW will ever play for the ABs - too small.

    Red and black. Kirifi will be too small but CLW won’t be, just wait.

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      We need to get Hohepa off he’s just too bloody slow when we look to attack. He’s got a good kicking game but that’s not enough unfortunately. There’s a reason the Crusaders got rid of him and we were dumb enough to pick him up.

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      @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

      We need to get Hohepa off he’s just too bloody slow when we look to attack. He’s got a good kicking game but that’s not enough unfortunately. There’s a reason the Crusaders got rid of him and we were dumb enough to pick him up.

      Harkin won't solve this. Hohepa was about the only one showing any sort of calmness... you could go full hail merry and throw Love to 10, but if the pack plays that poorly again, he'll be a lamb to the slaughter.

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        I thought Roigard was average last week, and he hasn't done much in this game either.

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        • frugbyF frugby

          It's games like these that gets guys selected for the All Blacks. You look at the Hurricanes, and obviously guys can have quiet games, but Numia, Kirifi and Love have been comfortably outplayed by their opposites - who are all established ABs. Lio-Willie is not everyone's cup of tea, but he consistenly stands out in these games, and I think is well on course for the ABs.

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          @frugby said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

          Love

          Love went quiet mid way through last year's Super as well

          Now he did pick up an injury towards the end of the year last year but the big regular season game last year was Blues Canes at Eden Park and Love was quiet that day and never regained his earlier form.

          Kirifi has been ok - going as well as Blackadder is

          Moananu impressed years ago on debut for Crusaders - other Super teams paying the price for not signing him when he was available

          Enjoyable game good intensity

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          • Landers92L Landers92

            @Steven-Harris said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

            Impressed with Fihaki despite the last kick hes got some skill ,footwork and pace
            Based on this years form i could understand an ABs call up
            Last year not so much
            Scooter outstanding in the first 40
            A few reputations in the Canes going south

            In place of who? I’m sure it’s between Tangitau and Fihaki(rightly or wrongly). I know who the majority would rather

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            @Landers92 the majoirty does’nt select the AB team lets be clear on this Fihaki is not my choice in fact like most i was totally confused by his elevation to the Black jersey but to be fair he is showing whats hes capable of
            Tangitau has been impressive but to be brutally honest you want to see how he handles pin point high kicks kicking game etc ..

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              I thought Roigard was average last week, and he hasn't done much in this game either.

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              @Bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

              I thought Roigard was average last week, and he hasn't done much in this game either.

              He's been fine, and he's behind a well beaten pack. Both him and love have done some good clean ups of utter shit

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              • Landers92L Landers92

                @Mr-Fish said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                @frugby said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                It's games like these that gets guys selected for the All Blacks. You look at the Hurricanes, and obviously guys can have quiet games, but Numia, Kirifi and Love have been comfortably outplayed by their opposites - who are all established ABs. Lio-Willie is not everyone's cup of tea, but he consistenly stands out in these games, and I think is well on course for the ABs.

                Don't think CLW will ever play for the ABs - too small.

                Red and black. Kirifi will be too small but CLW won’t be, just wait.

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                @Landers92 said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                @Mr-Fish said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                @frugby said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                It's games like these that gets guys selected for the All Blacks. You look at the Hurricanes, and obviously guys can have quiet games, but Numia, Kirifi and Love have been comfortably outplayed by their opposites - who are all established ABs. Lio-Willie is not everyone's cup of tea, but he consistenly stands out in these games, and I think is well on course for the ABs.

                Don't think CLW will ever play for the ABs - too small.

                Red and black. Kirifi will be too small but CLW won’t be, just wait.

                CLW is a good couple of inches taller than Kirifi, and is bigger. As an observation, Kirifi needs to standout in games like these, and he hasn't... issue for him, is he'll run out of time, because this is the Canes second last major derby unless they make the playoffs. I would pick Kirifi for the ABs at current, but on the basis of that first half, he could hardly complain if he missed out.

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  I thought Roigard was average last week, and he hasn't done much in this game either.

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                  @Bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                  I thought Roigard was average last week, and he hasn't done much in this game either.

                  Yeah he’s playing no where near as well as he did last year. Not running the ball at all. He’s needs to attack around the fringes which will open up space on the outside and just back himself. Maybe he’s got that injury at the back of his mind and isn’t playing as freely as he might have used to.

                  The Crusaders defence has been very good though. If they score right after the half it’s game over.

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                  • M Mr Fish

                    @frugby said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                    It's games like these that gets guys selected for the All Blacks. You look at the Hurricanes, and obviously guys can have quiet games, but Numia, Kirifi and Love have been comfortably outplayed by their opposites - who are all established ABs. Lio-Willie is not everyone's cup of tea, but he consistenly stands out in these games, and I think is well on course for the ABs.

                    Don't think CLW will ever play for the ABs - too small. Was on the EOYT last year and there were plenty of opportunities to give him some minutes but Razor decided not to.

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                    @Mr-Fish said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                    @frugby said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                    It's games like these that gets guys selected for the All Blacks. You look at the Hurricanes, and obviously guys can have quiet games, but Numia, Kirifi and Love have been comfortably outplayed by their opposites - who are all established ABs. Lio-Willie is not everyone's cup of tea, but he consistenly stands out in these games, and I think is well on course for the ABs.

                    Don't think CLW will ever play for the ABs - too small. Was on the EOYT last year and there were plenty of opportunities to give him some minutes but Razor decided not to.

                    Put Ardies haircut on CLW and he’ll be big enough

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                    • S Steven Harris

                      @Landers92 the majoirty does’nt select the AB team lets be clear on this Fihaki is not my choice in fact like most i was totally confused by his elevation to the Black jersey but to be fair he is showing whats hes capable of
                      Tangitau has been impressive but to be brutally honest you want to see how he handles pin point high kicks kicking game etc ..

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                      @Steven-Harris said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                      @Landers92 the majoirty does’nt select the AB team lets be clear on this Fihaki is not my choice in fact like most i was totally confused by his elevation to the Black jersey but to be fair he is showing whats hes capable of
                      Tangitau has been impressive but to be brutally honest you want to see how he handles pin point high kicks kicking game etc ..

                      Oh no don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying we do. Just stating who the majority would prefer, unfortunately he’s in the wrong colours.

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                      • S Steven Harris

                        @frugby really well put so much talk about Naholo but for all intensive purposes he’s being outplayed by Fihaki big time

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                        @Steven-Harris said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                        @frugby really well put so much talk about Naholo but for all intensive purposes he’s being outplayed by Fihaki big time

                        No one is talking up Naholo for an All Black jersey.

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                        • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                          @Bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                          I thought Roigard was average last week, and he hasn't done much in this game either.

                          Yeah he’s playing no where near as well as he did last year. Not running the ball at all. He’s needs to attack around the fringes which will open up space on the outside and just back himself. Maybe he’s got that injury at the back of his mind and isn’t playing as freely as he might have used to.

                          The Crusaders defence has been very good though. If they score right after the half it’s game over.

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                          @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                          @Bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:
                          Maybe he’s got that injury at the back of his mind and isn’t playing as freely as he might have used to.

                          It was such a major injury, I was concerned it would play on his mind a bit and lose some explosiveness. I hope that isn’t the case. An injury like that can take a good year for a player to get back to themselves though so I think he will be ok. Something to keep an eye on though

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @Bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                            I thought Roigard was average last week, and he hasn't done much in this game either.

                            Yeah he’s playing no where near as well as he did last year. Not running the ball at all. He’s needs to attack around the fringes which will open up space on the outside and just back himself. Maybe he’s got that injury at the back of his mind and isn’t playing as freely as he might have used to.

                            The Crusaders defence has been very good though. If they score right after the half it’s game over.

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                            @Canes4life said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                            @Bovidae said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                            I thought Roigard was average last week, and he hasn't done much in this game either.

                            Yeah he’s playing no where near as well as he did last year. Not running the ball at all. He’s needs to attack around the fringes which will open up space on the outside and just back himself. Maybe he’s got that injury at the back of his mind and isn’t playing as freely as he might have used to.

                            The Crusaders defence has been very good though. If they score right after the half it’s game over.

                            There hasn’t been any space for him to make those runs, so I wouldn’t be too hard there. It’s more the fact that his pass isn’t as snappy and he needs to fit on his teammates a bit more.

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                              I think Love is really good, but I also don't think he has shown enough that you put Jordan on the wing to play him at fullback, meaning Clarke/Tangitau/Tele'a miss out.

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                                I’m not so concerned with Roigard, my main concern is Numia. Yes it was a bad calf injury but he’s been a shell of himself this season. Hope he finds some form soon

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                                • A African Monkey

                                  @Landers92 said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                  So many side entries by Crusader players into the rucks being missed by the ref… I have no idea how he isn’t seeing those

                                  He's on the Crusaders payroll.

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                                  @African-Monkey said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                  @Landers92 said in Hurricanes vs Crusaders:

                                  So many side entries by Crusader players into the rucks being missed by the ref… I have no idea how he isn’t seeing those

                                  He's on the Crusaders payroll.

                                  The obstruction / accidental offside where he called play on because the tackle was made was bollocks. Who's to say the canes wouldn't have got the ball from an unimpeded tackle?

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                                    Unnecessary from Love but good to see some feeling

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                                      Lol love having a hissy from shit kick

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                                        Looks like a bit of frustration from Love there. That could have been an ugly knee injury for Jordan there. Taking up your main contender for the black 15 jersey 😂

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                                          Doleman has taken some angry pills today

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