All Blacks 2025
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Some interesting stats for wingers in NZ. 1 stands out a lot more than the rest. Saw the breakdown had thrown this up and after the winger chat in here the other day I thought it was worth a share.
PLAYER
GAMES
TRIES
AVG DEF. BEATENCaleb Tangitau
7 Games
6 Tries
3.4 Def beatenSevu Reece
66 Games
53 Tries
3.1 Def beatenKini Naholo
32 Games
19 Tries
2.8 Def beatenLeroy Carter
7 Games
4 Tries
3.4 Def beatenMark Tele'a
64 Games
34 Tries
4.7 Def beatenEmoni Narawa
47 Games
24 Tries
2.6 Def BeatenCaleb Clarke
63 Games
30 Tries
2.9 Def beatenChay Fihaki
38 Games
9 Tries
1.6 Def beatenTimoci Tavatavanawai
43 Games
14 Tries
5.6 Def beaten -
Some interesting stats for wingers in NZ. 1 stands out a lot more than the rest. Saw the breakdown had thrown this up and after the winger chat in here the other day I thought it was worth a share.
PLAYER
GAMES
TRIES
AVG DEF. BEATENCaleb Tangitau
7 Games
6 Tries
3.4 Def beatenSevu Reece
66 Games
53 Tries
3.1 Def beatenKini Naholo
32 Games
19 Tries
2.8 Def beatenLeroy Carter
7 Games
4 Tries
3.4 Def beatenMark Tele'a
64 Games
34 Tries
4.7 Def beatenEmoni Narawa
47 Games
24 Tries
2.6 Def BeatenCaleb Clarke
63 Games
30 Tries
2.9 Def beatenChay Fihaki
38 Games
9 Tries
1.6 Def beatenTimoci Tavatavanawai
43 Games
14 Tries
5.6 Def beaten -
@Landers92 Sevu Reece Tarzan at Super, jane at ABs level. maybe I'm being too harsh
️@Grooter said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 Sevu Reece Tarzan at Super, jane at ABs level. maybe I'm being too harsh
️I don't remember any Tarzans playing on the wing for the ABs but Jane was a gun at test level. Consistently better than Reece at any rate.
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Some interesting stats for wingers in NZ. 1 stands out a lot more than the rest. Saw the breakdown had thrown this up and after the winger chat in here the other day I thought it was worth a share.
PLAYER
GAMES
TRIES
AVG DEF. BEATENCaleb Tangitau
7 Games
6 Tries
3.4 Def beatenSevu Reece
66 Games
53 Tries
3.1 Def beatenKini Naholo
32 Games
19 Tries
2.8 Def beatenLeroy Carter
7 Games
4 Tries
3.4 Def beatenMark Tele'a
64 Games
34 Tries
4.7 Def beatenEmoni Narawa
47 Games
24 Tries
2.6 Def BeatenCaleb Clarke
63 Games
30 Tries
2.9 Def beatenChay Fihaki
38 Games
9 Tries
1.6 Def beatenTimoci Tavatavanawai
43 Games
14 Tries
5.6 Def beaten -
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.
Thanks pal. How is Macca Springer going ?
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@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.
Thanks pal. How is Macca Springer going ?
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@Landers92 be interesting to see them on a graph across the years. But clearly Sir Chay is to the manor born
You're good with computers apparently. Can you convert this into some kind of excel spreadsheet ? It's hard to read it as it is.
I tried my best to upload the photo but I didn’t even know how to do that. I’ll sum it up for you though, basically Fihaki is the worst option based off career statistics of try strike rate and defenders beaten so far in his career.
Thanks pal. How is Macca Springer going ?
Marginally better than Jonah Lowe.
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@mikedogz said in All Blacks 2025:
Cool. He can now concentrate on developing the talent available to him. Just hope he hasn't wasted a year.
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@mikedogz said in All Blacks 2025:
Cool. He can now concentrate on developing the talent available to him. Just hope he hasn't wasted a year.
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
If you look back at new coaches in their first year as head coach, they all selected players that weren’t there in year 2, 3 or 4.
And some of those had been selected for the first time or bought back just for that year and didn’t really feature again.
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@mikedogz said in All Blacks 2025:
Cool. He can now concentrate on developing the talent available to him. Just hope he hasn't wasted a year.
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
If you look back at new coaches in their first year as head coach, they all selected players that weren’t there in year 2, 3 or 4.
And some of those had been selected for the first time or bought back just for that year and didn’t really feature again.
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?
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@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?
all the while sticking with players who have proven to not be what we need, instead of trying exciting young up and comers, along with sticking with poor tactics that didn't seem to showcase the bast talents of our players
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?
all the while sticking with players who have proven to not be what we need, instead of trying exciting young up and comers, along with sticking with poor tactics that didn't seem to showcase the bast talents of our players
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@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?
all the while sticking with players who have proven to not be what we need, instead of trying exciting young up and comers, along with sticking with poor tactics that didn't seem to showcase the bast talents of our players
@canefan said in All Blacks 2025:
@Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:
@ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks 2025:
What would wasting a year look like exactly?
A new AB coach trying to change set-in-stone NZ Rugby eligibility rules for an overseas player rather than try new talent - and giving up after 12 months?
all the while sticking with players who have proven to not be what we need, instead of trying exciting young up and comers, along with sticking with poor tactics that didn't seem to showcase the bast talents of our players
I can understand the sticking with the old guard for year 1 while he gets his feet under the table (don't want to see the same for year 2) . Just don't get his Mo'unga/eligibility fight - at all
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You have to cut him some slack. It's not like he had time to watch trends in Test rugby to determine where the All Blacks needed to improve or develop their game. Nor did he have time to pick a form squad that would be capable of such a game plan.
So of course he has to rely on the
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Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
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Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
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@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
More a lot have gone backwards or have stagnated. When you look at the ABs XV squad, it’s actually quite disappointing how many haven’t kicked on to another gear (Kirifi has been good but seems to be slipping as the season goes on). Holland, who was a big prospect last season, hasn’t showed the same level (aside from one game against the bottom team).
As for the up and coming ABs from last season. Aumua, Roigard, Ratima, Tosi, Laki, and Love haven’t exactly been setting the world on fire.
The only players that have noticeably improved imo has been Jordon (has played more like a fullback), Vai’i and Finau have got better.
I am critical of Robertson but I do feel a bit sorry for him. If Barrett continues to show good game management and McKenzie shits the bed in another semi/final, who is he supposed to select? ALB and Reiko are the only real options at 13 despite Reiko being bang average and ALB being injury prone and slow. Reece, despite being terrible last season, continues to outshine every winger through sheer enthusiasm. For all the criticism of Jordon at 15, what exactly has Love shown to provide any competition at all? Still don’t have a clear option for our backup hooker with Taylor still the obvious no. 1. Lock is ok but one injury there and we have no idea who the third lock would be. Literally only have one out and out six pushing for selection. We don’t have an 8 if Savea is sensibly selected at 7.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
More a lot have gone backwards or have stagnated. When you look at the ABs XV squad, it’s actually quite disappointing how many haven’t kicked on to another gear (Kirifi has been good but seems to be slipping as the season goes on). Holland, who was a big prospect last season, hasn’t showed the same level (aside from one game against the bottom team).
As for the up and coming ABs from last season. Aumua, Roigard, Ratima, Tosi, Laki, and Love haven’t exactly been setting the world on fire.
The only players that have noticeably improved imo has been Jordon (has played more like a fullback), Vai’i and Finau have got better.
I am critical of Robertson but I do feel a bit sorry for him. If Barrett continues to show good game management and McKenzie shits the bed in another semi/final, who is he supposed to select? ALB and Reiko are the only real options at 13 despite Reiko being bang average and ALB being injury prone and slow. Reece, despite being terrible last season, continues to outshine every winger through sheer enthusiasm. For all the criticism of Jordon at 15, what exactly has Love shown to provide any competition at all? Still don’t have a clear option for our backup hooker with Taylor still the obvious no. 1. Lock is ok but one injury there and we have no idea who the third lock would be. Literally only have one out and out six pushing for selection. We don’t have an 8 if Savea is sensibly selected at 7.
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
More a lot have gone backwards or have stagnated. When you look at the ABs XV squad, it’s actually quite disappointing how many haven’t kicked on to another gear (Kirifi has been good but seems to be slipping as the season goes on). Holland, who was a big prospect last season, hasn’t showed the same level (aside from one game against the bottom team).
As for the up and coming ABs from last season. Aumua, Roigard, Ratima, Tosi, Laki, and Love haven’t exactly been setting the world on fire.
The only players that have noticeably improved imo has been Jordon (has played more like a fullback), Vai’i and Finau have got better.
I am critical of Robertson but I do feel a bit sorry for him. If Barrett continues to show good game management and McKenzie shits the bed in another semi/final, who is he supposed to select? ALB and Reiko are the only real options at 13 despite Reiko being bang average and ALB being injury prone and slow. Reece, despite being terrible last season, continues to outshine every winger through sheer enthusiasm. For all the criticism of Jordon at 15, what exactly has Love shown to provide any competition at all? Still don’t have a clear option for our backup hooker with Taylor still the obvious no. 1. Lock is ok but one injury there and we have no idea who the third lock would be. Literally only have one out and out six pushing for selection. We don’t have an 8 if Savea is sensibly selected at 7.
Jesus mate, I'm as negative as the next guy, but Taylor, Taukei'aho, Aumua is hardly a weak trio of hookers.
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@Bones said in All Blacks 2025:
@KiwiInLondon said in All Blacks 2025:
Yes so many of the young and up and coming players have justified everyone sentiments about Robertson with their continued and improved form in this super rugby season....
Any position in mind? Tough to think of any 10's that haven't improved except for Miller and Hohepa.
More a lot have gone backwards or have stagnated. When you look at the ABs XV squad, it’s actually quite disappointing how many haven’t kicked on to another gear (Kirifi has been good but seems to be slipping as the season goes on). Holland, who was a big prospect last season, hasn’t showed the same level (aside from one game against the bottom team).
As for the up and coming ABs from last season. Aumua, Roigard, Ratima, Tosi, Laki, and Love haven’t exactly been setting the world on fire.
The only players that have noticeably improved imo has been Jordon (has played more like a fullback), Vai’i and Finau have got better.
I am critical of Robertson but I do feel a bit sorry for him. If Barrett continues to show good game management and McKenzie shits the bed in another semi/final, who is he supposed to select? ALB and Reiko are the only real options at 13 despite Reiko being bang average and ALB being injury prone and slow. Reece, despite being terrible last season, continues to outshine every winger through sheer enthusiasm. For all the criticism of Jordon at 15, what exactly has Love shown to provide any competition at all? Still don’t have a clear option for our backup hooker with Taylor still the obvious no. 1. Lock is ok but one injury there and we have no idea who the third lock would be. Literally only have one out and out six pushing for selection. We don’t have an 8 if Savea is sensibly selected at 7.
@KiwiInLondon we have better Depth at hooker this year to be fair, last year Razor plucked out Bell who was struggling to throw straight for the Crusaders. this year we have a fit Taukei'aho, Codie, Aumua and if need be the Crusaders breakout player Moananu
