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All Blacks 2025

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  • M Mr Fish

    Leicester Fainga'anuku's availability for the All Blacks this year will just come down to how well Razor is able to negotiate with NZR. The rule is you theoretically have to play Super to play in the July Tests, and NPC to play in the TRC, but they've bent that rule in the past depending on needs.

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    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

    Leicester Fainga'anuku's availability for the All Blacks this year will just come down to how well Razor is able to negotiate with NZR. The rule is you theoretically have to play Super to play in the July Tests, and NPC to play in the TRC, but they've bent that rule in the past depending on needs.

    It is stupid rule imo. I'm all for not allowing overseas players (fuck off r as zor and mounga) but once they're on our books, employed by NZR, then they should be available

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    • C cgrant

      Norris could be the third LH prop.
      Tangitau could thrive outside a good passing centre, but not outside Rieko as far as attack is concerned. He could do well outside Billy Proctor but I cannot imagine the All Blacks' selectors choosing two inexperienced players at international level at the same time. This is why I think Tangitau's time will not come this year.

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      @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

      Norris could be the third LH prop.
      Tangitau could thrive outside a good passing centre, but not outside Rieko as far as attack is concerned. He could do well outside Billy Proctor but I cannot imagine the All Blacks' selectors choosing two inexperienced players at international level at the same time. This is why I think Tangitau's time will not come this year.

      What ?
      Tangitau isn't picked because Rieko can't pass?

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        Tangitau can score tries outside some pretty average inside backs. He's been doing it all season (until he got injured)

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        • JetJ Jet

          Rieko does not have any body of work to speak of at 13 for club or country.

          If you stick Rieko Ioane highlights into YouTube, all of it will be with him wearing the 11 shirt.

          Its so meh.

          He really should be the top try scoring Allblack of all time by now......

          Will Jordan debuted 4 years after him and has already overtaken him in the record books.

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          @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

          Rieko does not have any body of work to speak of at 13 for club or country.

          If you stick Rieko Ioane highlights into YouTube, all of it will be with him wearing the 11 shirt.

          Its so meh.

          He really should be the top try scoring Allblack of all time by now......

          Will Jordan debuted 4 years after him and has already overtaken him in the record books.

          He also has an unusually ganguly build for a centre, his upper body is slender but is strongly built from waist down, he has a lanky physique (much like Joe Rokocoko) for endurance running & acceleration off the mark, he should be out in space not in the midfield.

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            @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

            Rieko does not have any body of work to speak of at 13 for club or country.

            If you stick Rieko Ioane highlights into YouTube, all of it will be with him wearing the 11 shirt.

            Its so meh.

            He really should be the top try scoring Allblack of all time by now......

            Will Jordan debuted 4 years after him and has already overtaken him in the record books.

            He also has an unusually ganguly build for a centre, his upper body is slender but is strongly built from waist down, he has a lanky physique (much like Joe Rokocoko) for endurance running & acceleration off the mark, he should be out in space not in the midfield.

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            Bones
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            @darylmitchell built like Umaga and Smith. What you on lately fella?

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            • BonesB Bones

              @darylmitchell built like Umaga and Smith. What you on lately fella?

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              @Bones Reiko's a bit taller than those 2 and has longer legs, more emphasis on lower body & leg strength. Smith & Umaga had a more balanced core, even though weighed less.

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                @Bones Reiko's a bit taller than those 2 and has longer legs, more emphasis on lower body & leg strength. Smith & Umaga had a more balanced core, even though weighed less.

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                Bones
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                @darylmitchell I'm not sure that extra inch means as much as you think it does.

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                • BonesB Bones

                  @darylmitchell I'm not sure that extra inch means as much as you think it does.

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                  @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @darylmitchell I'm not sure that extra inch means as much as you think it does.

                  Mrs Mitchell will vouch for that.

                  Plus Reiko is a much better athlete than anyone the Boks can churn out apparently so it’s all irrelevant

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                  • FrankF Frank

                    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Norris could be the third LH prop.
                    Tangitau could thrive outside a good passing centre, but not outside Rieko as far as attack is concerned. He could do well outside Billy Proctor but I cannot imagine the All Blacks' selectors choosing two inexperienced players at international level at the same time. This is why I think Tangitau's time will not come this year.

                    What ?
                    Tangitau isn't picked because Rieko can't pass?

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                    @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @cgrant said in All Blacks 2025:

                    Norris could be the third LH prop.
                    Tangitau could thrive outside a good passing centre, but not outside Rieko as far as attack is concerned. He could do well outside Billy Proctor but I cannot imagine the All Blacks' selectors choosing two inexperienced players at international level at the same time. This is why I think Tangitau's time will not come this year.

                    What ?
                    Tangitau isn't picked because Rieko can't pass?

                    I fear this will happen.

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                      They played Rieko on the wing in the final quarter a few times last season, and he looked very dangerous with the extra space. If the coaches are not going to implement a gameplan that allows Rieko to get on the outside shoulder of his man, then he is better served playing out wide. A back three of Clarke - Jordan - Rieko would be pretty scary to defend against.

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                        Something like Roigard - DMac - Clarke - Jordie - Proctor - Rieko - Jordan would be awesome to watch if they got going.

                        @ScottRobertson tagging you so you see this post, give the fans what they want

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                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                          Something like Roigard - DMac - Clarke - Jordie - Proctor - Rieko - Jordan would be awesome to watch if they got going.

                          @ScottRobertson tagging you so you see this post, give the fans what they want

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                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                          Something like Roigard - DMac - Clarke - Jordie - Proctor - Rieko - Jordan would be awesome to watch if they got going.

                          @ScottRobertson tagging you so you see this post, give the fans what they want

                          I guess putting Rieko outside Jordan would mean no one can complain how he goes ball in hand.

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                            Anyone who doesn't have DMac at 10 and Jordan at 15 either

                            a) doesn't know the first thing about rugby
                            b) isn't watching Super Rugby
                            c) a + b

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                            • MiketheSnowM MiketheSnow

                              Anyone who doesn't have DMac at 10 and Jordan at 15 either

                              a) doesn't know the first thing about rugby
                              b) isn't watching Super Rugby
                              c) a + b

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                              @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Anyone who doesn't have DMac at 10 and Jordan at 15 either

                              a) doesn't know the first thing about rugby
                              b) isn't watching Super Rugby
                              c) a + b

                              d) is @Bones

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                              • MN5M MN5

                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Anyone who doesn't have DMac at 10 and Jordan at 15 either

                                a) doesn't know the first thing about rugby
                                b) isn't watching Super Rugby
                                c) a + b

                                d) is @Bones

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                                @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @MiketheSnow said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Anyone who doesn't have DMac at 10 and Jordan at 15 either

                                a) doesn't know the first thing about rugby
                                b) isn't watching Super Rugby
                                c) a + b

                                d) is @Bones

                                What can I say, I like teamwork.

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                                  13 Billy Proctor.

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                                    Bones
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                                    I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

                                      OMG!

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Something like Roigard - DMac - Clarke - Jordie - Proctor - Rieko - Jordan would be awesome to watch if they got going.

                                        @ScottRobertson tagging you so you see this post, give the fans what they want

                                        I guess putting Rieko outside Jordan would mean no one can complain how he goes ball in hand.

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                                        @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @No-Quarter said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Something like Roigard - DMac - Clarke - Jordie - Proctor - Rieko - Jordan would be awesome to watch if they got going.

                                        @ScottRobertson tagging you so you see this post, give the fans what they want

                                        I guess putting Rieko outside Jordan would mean no one can complain how he goes ball in hand.

                                        Jordan put Springer into space with a lovely long pass today, then followed up in support for the return pass and run in for a (2nd) try.

                                        Also won an attacking contestable on the Highlanders 22 with a Ben Smith-esque catch.

                                        The only argument for not having Jordan at 15, is if you are putting Jordie there to accommodate another 12 such as Tavatavanawai.

                                        Barring that scenario, Sir William of Jordan is the Allblack fullback and its not even close.

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                                        • BonesB Bones

                                          I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

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                                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          I could live with Jordan at fullback if we had vintage Kahui and Jane/Smith.

                                          I'd go Cullen at fullback with Jonah and JK on the wings personally.

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