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  • G george33

    @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

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    @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

    Maybe that's an issue. Have a poor debut and no matter how talented get a black mark in the coaching staff's book. Coach then makes comfortable selections. Which us fine - until the comfortable choices get injured or form dissappears.

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    • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

      @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

      @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

      Maybe that's an issue. Have a poor debut and no matter how talented get a black mark in the coaching staff's book. Coach then makes comfortable selections. Which us fine - until the comfortable choices get injured or form dissappears.

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      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

      @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

      @sparky unless Reiko, gets injured which doesn't happen that much, he will be 13, Proctor 1 game against Fiji, missed 3 tackles, and was dropped, Test Rugby

      Maybe that's an issue. Have a poor debut and no matter how talented get a black mark in the coaching staff's book. Coach then makes comfortable selections. Which us fine - until the comfortable choices get injured or form dissappears.

      It's simply bollocks. If missed tackles are that big of an issue, then the cantab props and EB are in a world of trouble.

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      • BonesB Bones

        Yeah, talk about NZR shutting out Proctor is.... interesting. Wasn't he the first player to get a 5 year contract?

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        @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

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        • MN5M MN5

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

          Even the All Black socials know what’s up. Doctor Proctor has to be the AB 13 this year.

          He did more in his first start on Saturday than Reiko’s done all year.

          https://www.instagram.com/p/DI-oW_WT1mN/?igsh=MTBlb21tdjllZGxzMA==

          It’s fair to say you might be slightly biased when discussing Canes players…..

          It’s pretty tough seeing Razor dropping Ioane ( or anyone really ) but he is at that age where speedsters in the ABs get jettisoned ( Cullen, Jonah, Rokokoko all gone before 28 which Ioane is now )

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          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

          Even the All Black socials know what’s up. Doctor Proctor has to be the AB 13 this year.

          He did more in his first start on Saturday than Reiko’s done all year.

          https://www.instagram.com/p/DI-oW_WT1mN/?igsh=MTBlb21tdjllZGxzMA==

          It’s fair to say you might be slightly biased when discussing Canes players…..

          It’s pretty tough seeing Razor dropping Ioane ( or anyone really ) but he is at that age where speedsters in the ABs get jettisoned ( Cullen, Jonah, Rokokoko all gone before 28 which Ioane is now )

          He's also at the age where centres start to hit their prime for the ABs too. Smoking Joe, Bunce, Tana, peak Conrad.

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          • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

            @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

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            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

            Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

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            • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

              @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

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              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

              Maybe first uncapped player?

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              • NepiaN Nepia

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

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                @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

                Yeah some Canes supporters on here were pretty harsh on him too.

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                  #1922

                  In all seriousness though I’m just hoping Proctor at least gets more of a chance to show what he has at international level because he was the best centre in Super Rugby last year and in his first start in 2025 he arguably has already had the best game by a centre this season when you factor in the opposition and where they played.

                  Ioane and Leinert-Brown have had plenty of time to nail down the 13 AB jersey and haven’t. No point in the ABs doing the same shit because we’ll just get the same results. No better opportunity to give Proctor an opportunity outside Jordie against an understrength French side in July as well.

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                    https://www.instagram.com/p/DI-3GMdT0m3/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

                    ALB gone for the season

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                    • G george33

                      @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

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                      #1924

                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

                      It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.

                      I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.

                      Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French. I’ve also included AJ Lam because for me he’s been pretty damn classy for the Blues and can cover wing if required.

                      1. Williams
                      2. Taylor
                      3. Lomax
                      4. Barrett
                      5. Va’ai
                      6. Sititi
                      7. Lakai
                      8. Savea
                      9. Roigard
                      10. McKenzie
                      11. Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
                      12. Barrett
                      13. Proctor
                      14. Jordan
                      15. Love
                      16. Taukei’aho
                      17. De Groot
                      18. Tosi
                      19. Holland
                      20. Kirifi
                      21. Ratima
                      22. Barrett
                      23. Lam
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                      • NepiaN Nepia

                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                        Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

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                        @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                        Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

                        No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently

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                        • MN5M MN5

                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                          Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

                          No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently

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                          #1926

                          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                          Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

                          No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently

                          An incumbent that hasn’t played well for at least two seasons now.

                          What have the ABs become? The centre of mediocrity?

                          I’m not saying drop Ioane, just move him back to the position where he flourished.

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                          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                            Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

                            No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently

                            An incumbent that hasn’t played well for at least two seasons now.

                            What have the ABs become? The centre of mediocrity?

                            I’m not saying drop Ioane, just move him back to the position where he flourished.

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                            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                            Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

                            No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently

                            An incumbent that hasn’t played well for at least two seasons now.

                            What have the ABs become? The centre of mediocrity?

                            I’m not saying drop Ioane, just move him back to the position where he flourished.

                            others positions have their issues as well, not just the midfield

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                            • MN5M MN5

                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                              Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

                              No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently

                              An incumbent that hasn’t played well for at least two seasons now.

                              What have the ABs become? The centre of mediocrity?

                              I’m not saying drop Ioane, just move him back to the position where he flourished.

                              others positions have their issues as well, not just the midfield

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                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @taniwharugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Bones Julian Savea wasn't it?

                              Possibly, but Proctor got a 5 year contract really young, and even the Canes fluffer fans will admit (well maybe) that he took time to develop into a player worthy of AB consideration.

                              No he only needs one game a season to usurp the incumbent apparently

                              An incumbent that hasn’t played well for at least two seasons now.

                              What have the ABs become? The centre of mediocrity?

                              I’m not saying drop Ioane, just move him back to the position where he flourished.

                              others positions have their issues as well, not just the midfield

                              I’m glad you picked up on my play on words.

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                                @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

                                It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.

                                I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.

                                Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French. I’ve also included AJ Lam because for me he’s been pretty damn classy for the Blues and can cover wing if required.

                                1. Williams
                                2. Taylor
                                3. Lomax
                                4. Barrett
                                5. Va’ai
                                6. Sititi
                                7. Lakai
                                8. Savea
                                9. Roigard
                                10. McKenzie
                                11. Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
                                12. Barrett
                                13. Proctor
                                14. Jordan
                                15. Love
                                16. Taukei’aho
                                17. De Groot
                                18. Tosi
                                19. Holland
                                20. Kirifi
                                21. Ratima
                                22. Barrett
                                23. Lam
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                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

                                It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.

                                I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.

                                Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.

                                1. Williams
                                2. Taylor
                                3. Lomax
                                4. Barrett
                                5. Va’ai
                                6. Sititi
                                7. Lakai
                                8. Savea
                                9. Roigard
                                10. McKenzie
                                11. Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
                                12. Barrett
                                13. Proctor
                                14. Jordan
                                15. Love
                                16. Taukei’aho
                                17. De Groot
                                18. Tosi
                                19. Holland
                                20. Kirifi
                                21. Ratima
                                22. Barrett
                                23. Lam

                                I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.

                                With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).

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                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

                                  It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.

                                  I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.

                                  Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.

                                  1. Williams
                                  2. Taylor
                                  3. Lomax
                                  4. Barrett
                                  5. Va’ai
                                  6. Sititi
                                  7. Lakai
                                  8. Savea
                                  9. Roigard
                                  10. McKenzie
                                  11. Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
                                  12. Barrett
                                  13. Proctor
                                  14. Jordan
                                  15. Love
                                  16. Taukei’aho
                                  17. De Groot
                                  18. Tosi
                                  19. Holland
                                  20. Kirifi
                                  21. Ratima
                                  22. Barrett
                                  23. Lam

                                  I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.

                                  With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).

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                                  @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

                                  It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.

                                  I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.

                                  Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.

                                  1. Williams
                                  2. Taylor
                                  3. Lomax
                                  4. Barrett
                                  5. Va’ai
                                  6. Sititi
                                  7. Lakai
                                  8. Savea
                                  9. Roigard
                                  10. McKenzie
                                  11. Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
                                  12. Barrett
                                  13. Proctor
                                  14. Jordan
                                  15. Love
                                  16. Taukei’aho
                                  17. De Groot
                                  18. Tosi
                                  19. Holland
                                  20. Kirifi
                                  21. Ratima
                                  22. Barrett
                                  23. Lam

                                  I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.

                                  With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).

                                  Yeah I agree I can’t see that team happening
                                  Or deserve those selections
                                  .

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                                    The other interesting ones are Samisoni and Asafo Aumua. I seriously would not discount McAllister usurping them. Moananu has probably been the form Super Rugby hooker, but I suspect McAllister's game would translate better to the international arena, which is often something cited by Jason Ryan.

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                                      @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

                                      It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.

                                      I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.

                                      Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.

                                      1. Williams
                                      2. Taylor
                                      3. Lomax
                                      4. Barrett
                                      5. Va’ai
                                      6. Sititi
                                      7. Lakai
                                      8. Savea
                                      9. Roigard
                                      10. McKenzie
                                      11. Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
                                      12. Barrett
                                      13. Proctor
                                      14. Jordan
                                      15. Love
                                      16. Taukei’aho
                                      17. De Groot
                                      18. Tosi
                                      19. Holland
                                      20. Kirifi
                                      21. Ratima
                                      22. Barrett
                                      23. Lam

                                      I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.

                                      With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).

                                      Yeah I agree I can’t see that team happening
                                      Or deserve those selections
                                      .

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

                                      It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.

                                      I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.

                                      Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.

                                      1. Williams
                                      2. Taylor
                                      3. Lomax
                                      4. Barrett
                                      5. Va’ai
                                      6. Sititi
                                      7. Lakai
                                      8. Savea
                                      9. Roigard
                                      10. McKenzie
                                      11. Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
                                      12. Barrett
                                      13. Proctor
                                      14. Jordan
                                      15. Love
                                      16. Taukei’aho
                                      17. De Groot
                                      18. Tosi
                                      19. Holland
                                      20. Kirifi
                                      21. Ratima
                                      22. Barrett
                                      23. Lam

                                      I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.

                                      With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).

                                      Yeah I agree I can’t see that team happening
                                      Or deserve those selections
                                      .

                                      Says the Blackadder fan.

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                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

                                        It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.

                                        I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.

                                        Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.

                                        1. Williams
                                        2. Taylor
                                        3. Lomax
                                        4. Barrett
                                        5. Va’ai
                                        6. Sititi
                                        7. Lakai
                                        8. Savea
                                        9. Roigard
                                        10. McKenzie
                                        11. Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
                                        12. Barrett
                                        13. Proctor
                                        14. Jordan
                                        15. Love
                                        16. Taukei’aho
                                        17. De Groot
                                        18. Tosi
                                        19. Holland
                                        20. Kirifi
                                        21. Ratima
                                        22. Barrett
                                        23. Lam

                                        I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.

                                        With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).

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                                        @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @sparky respect your opinion, but Proctor , just don't see it ,let's see how he goes in next couple months.,

                                        It’s not only my opinion mate. The drums have been beating pretty loudly for Proctor to start for a while now and at some point he’ll be too hard to ignore.

                                        I take it you didn’t watch his performance against the Brumbies on Saturday? Either that or you didn’t have your contacts in because he was all class on both sides of the ball and that’s what the ABs have been missing consistently in a centre for far too long.

                                        Personally I wouldn’t mind if the ABs rolled out this team against the French.

                                        1. Williams
                                        2. Taylor
                                        3. Lomax
                                        4. Barrett
                                        5. Va’ai
                                        6. Sititi
                                        7. Lakai
                                        8. Savea
                                        9. Roigard
                                        10. McKenzie
                                        11. Ioane (I’d back him over Clarke)
                                        12. Barrett
                                        13. Proctor
                                        14. Jordan
                                        15. Love
                                        16. Taukei’aho
                                        17. De Groot
                                        18. Tosi
                                        19. Holland
                                        20. Kirifi
                                        21. Ratima
                                        22. Barrett
                                        23. Lam

                                        I may be a moron, but I don't think the best All Blacks team includes six Hurricanes starting, with a further two on the bench.

                                        With the form he is in, Jordan should and will get first crack at fullback, and I don't think you should see Savea, Lakai and Kirifi all in the same 23. Need another big body (probably Finau).

                                        I didn’t say it was the team Razor would pick, it’s the team I would pick. I reckon that loose trio would be bloody hard to stop. Forget Finau, what’s he actually done apart from putting a few big shots on a couple of tiny number 10s?

                                        Kirifi off the bench in the last twenty wouldn’t be a bad idea for mine.

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                                          The other interesting ones are Samisoni and Asafo Aumua. I seriously would not discount McAllister usurping them. Moananu has probably been the form Super Rugby hooker, but I suspect McAllister's game would translate better to the international arena, which is often something cited by Jason Ryan.

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                                          @frugby said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          The other interesting ones are Samisoni and Asafo Aumua. I seriously would not discount McAllister usurping them. Moananu has probably been the form Super Rugby hooker, but I suspect McAllister's game would translate better to the international arena, which is often something cited by Jason Ryan.

                                          McCalister? You’re having a laugh. Moananu isn’t bad at all but he’ll need a second year in Super to show he can keep the standard from what he’s shown this year.

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