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  • A akan004

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    Catching up with The Breakdown, Justin Marshall (Razor's mate) talking up Kyle Preston as an AB possibility. Not sure I see it.

    Those clowns were still mentioning Finlay as a possible inclusion in the squad.

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    @akan004 we know how much this coaching group, and the one prior valued experience.

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      I'm not sold on any of them right now. Maybe I've just been spoiled by having Smith for so long, but the speed and accuracy of delivery from all candidates leaves a bit to be desired.
      Roigard's running has been worse, so he comes back to the pack a lot, because his passing accuracy isn't that consistent. Fakatava is the best running halfback in the country so far this season to my eyes - he is picking his moments better and making more ground. Hotham probably the most active defender. Ratima the cleanest delivery but he's not a runner and is a less powerful defender.

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @Mr-Fish said in Crusaders 2025:

        Think Ruben Love would be a better shout at fullback to be honest.

        I think the ABs would go Barrett and DMac to start with Love covering 15 from the bench.

        Not going to be an issue though as Jordan will be back before the end of the playoffs.

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        @Canes4life the issue that is there when DMac and BB are on the field together, (10/15 respectively) it seems things get muddled in terms of who is running the show.

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          Stevenson is the next best fullback in the country, and has a good combo with McKenzie but they won't pick him.
          I think Love should stick to 10, and I don't think he's ready there.
          Kneepkens too soon.
          Perofeta has hardly played.
          So, Barrett by default - the only question is which one?

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          • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

            @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

            Catching up with The Breakdown, Justin Marshall (Razor's mate) talking up Kyle Preston as an AB possibility. Not sure I see it.

            Those clowns were still mentioning Finlay as a possible inclusion in the squad.

            I watched that segment, funny that they hardly mentioned Roigard who you'd think is our number 1 going into the French tests, despite him not quite being at his best (yet).

            Roigard and Ratima are locked in for me. I'm still not sold on Hotham.

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            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

            @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

            Catching up with The Breakdown, Justin Marshall (Razor's mate) talking up Kyle Preston as an AB possibility. Not sure I see it.

            Those clowns were still mentioning Finlay as a possible inclusion in the squad.

            I watched that segment, funny that they hardly mentioned Roigard who you'd think is our number 1 going into the French tests, despite him not quite being at his best (yet).

            Roigard and Ratima are locked in for me. I'm still not sold on Hotham.

            Roigard and Ratima are very similar players, style wise, to me. Is that what the ABs will want on the bench? I am not sure.

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            • Crazy HorseC Crazy Horse

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

              @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              Catching up with The Breakdown, Justin Marshall (Razor's mate) talking up Kyle Preston as an AB possibility. Not sure I see it.

              Those clowns were still mentioning Finlay as a possible inclusion in the squad.

              I watched that segment, funny that they hardly mentioned Roigard who you'd think is our number 1 going into the French tests, despite him not quite being at his best (yet).

              Roigard and Ratima are locked in for me. I'm still not sold on Hotham.

              Roigard and Ratima are very similar players, style wise, to me. Is that what the ABs will want on the bench? I am not sure.

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              @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

              @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              Catching up with The Breakdown, Justin Marshall (Razor's mate) talking up Kyle Preston as an AB possibility. Not sure I see it.

              Those clowns were still mentioning Finlay as a possible inclusion in the squad.

              I watched that segment, funny that they hardly mentioned Roigard who you'd think is our number 1 going into the French tests, despite him not quite being at his best (yet).

              Roigard and Ratima are locked in for me. I'm still not sold on Hotham.

              Roigard and Ratima are very similar players, style wise, to me. Is that what the ABs will want on the bench? I am not sure.

              I'm not sure the selectors will be specifically taking into consideration your style of play, to be honest?

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              • Mr FishM Mr Fish

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                Catching up with The Breakdown, Justin Marshall (Razor's mate) talking up Kyle Preston as an AB possibility. Not sure I see it.

                Those clowns were still mentioning Finlay as a possible inclusion in the squad.

                I watched that segment, funny that they hardly mentioned Roigard who you'd think is our number 1 going into the French tests, despite him not quite being at his best (yet).

                Roigard and Ratima are locked in for me. I'm still not sold on Hotham.

                Roigard and Ratima are very similar players, style wise, to me. Is that what the ABs will want on the bench? I am not sure.

                I'm not sure the selectors will be specifically taking into consideration your style of play, to be honest?

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                @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                @akan004 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                Catching up with The Breakdown, Justin Marshall (Razor's mate) talking up Kyle Preston as an AB possibility. Not sure I see it.

                Those clowns were still mentioning Finlay as a possible inclusion in the squad.

                I watched that segment, funny that they hardly mentioned Roigard who you'd think is our number 1 going into the French tests, despite him not quite being at his best (yet).

                Roigard and Ratima are locked in for me. I'm still not sold on Hotham.

                Roigard and Ratima are very similar players, style wise, to me. Is that what the ABs will want on the bench? I am not sure.

                I'm not sure the selectors will be specifically taking into consideration your style of play, to be honest?

                It can be a consideration. It has been at half back in the past.

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                  I'm not sold on any of them right now. Maybe I've just been spoiled by having Smith for so long, but the speed and accuracy of delivery from all candidates leaves a bit to be desired.
                  Roigard's running has been worse, so he comes back to the pack a lot, because his passing accuracy isn't that consistent. Fakatava is the best running halfback in the country so far this season to my eyes - he is picking his moments better and making more ground. Hotham probably the most active defender. Ratima the cleanest delivery but he's not a runner and is a less powerful defender.

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                  kidcalder
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                  @reprobate
                  Yeah I have Roigard and Ratima 1 & 2 a horses for courses type selection for them.
                  Fakatava though is probably who I would want coming off the bench for impact.
                  So they are my top 3 atm
                  Holtham bubbling under just needs more time to learn his trade no need to rush him.
                  Under that we are well served for back ups: Christie, Preston and Hastie looking good so I don't see 9 as the weakness I thought it would be after Smith departed.

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                    @reprobate
                    Yeah I have Roigard and Ratima 1 & 2 a horses for courses type selection for them.
                    Fakatava though is probably who I would want coming off the bench for impact.
                    So they are my top 3 atm
                    Holtham bubbling under just needs more time to learn his trade no need to rush him.
                    Under that we are well served for back ups: Christie, Preston and Hastie looking good so I don't see 9 as the weakness I thought it would be after Smith departed.

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                    george33
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                    @kidcalder and I would put Taufa Funaki, in the mix, his return has seen a different dimension in the Blues.

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                      @kidcalder and I would put Taufa Funaki, in the mix, his return has seen a different dimension in the Blues.

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                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @kidcalder and I would put Taufa Funaki, in the mix, his return has seen a different dimension in the Blues.

                      plays for the wrong club. No chance.

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                        Wings:

                        Tangitau - injured
                        Naholo - injured/leaving

                        Jordan - currently injured, should be available?

                        Telea - leaving

                        Reece - has been

                        This leaves:

                        Clarke
                        Narawa
                        Ioane

                        AJ Lam is available.

                        Are Love or Stevenson possibilities? Leroy Carter?

                        Injuries to other players might prove fortunate for Telea and Reece.

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                        • TimT Tim

                          Wings:

                          Tangitau - injured
                          Naholo - injured/leaving

                          Jordan - currently injured, should be available?

                          Telea - leaving

                          Reece - has been

                          This leaves:

                          Clarke
                          Narawa
                          Ioane

                          AJ Lam is available.

                          Are Love or Stevenson possibilities? Leroy Carter?

                          Injuries to other players might prove fortunate for Telea and Reece.

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                          george33
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                          @Tim you missed Fihaki out.

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                            wings no prob Reece ,Fihaki,Springer

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                              DurryMexted
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                              Surely with JRK back from injury, he can leapfrog Fihaki in any of these discussions. His style would suit 14 for the ABs in my opinion

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @kidcalder and I would put Taufa Funaki, in the mix, his return has seen a different dimension in the Blues.

                                plays for the wrong club. No chance.

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                                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @kidcalder and I would put Taufa Funaki, in the mix, his return has seen a different dimension in the Blues.

                                plays for the wrong club. No chance.

                                Unfortunately correct, the HBs will be locked in as:
                                Roigard - incumbent and will start
                                Ratima - bench and pushing Roigard hard for a start
                                Hotham - Crusaders Project Player

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                                • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                  @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @kidcalder and I would put Taufa Funaki, in the mix, his return has seen a different dimension in the Blues.

                                  plays for the wrong club. No chance.

                                  Unfortunately correct, the HBs will be locked in as:
                                  Roigard - incumbent and will start
                                  Ratima - bench and pushing Roigard hard for a start
                                  Hotham - Crusaders Project Player

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                                  @No-Quarter let's wait and see, he's in the conversation.

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                                    @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @kidcalder and I would put Taufa Funaki, in the mix, his return has seen a different dimension in the Blues.

                                    plays for the wrong club. No chance.

                                    Unfortunately correct, the HBs will be locked in as:
                                    Roigard - incumbent and will start
                                    Ratima - bench and pushing Roigard hard for a start
                                    Hotham - Crusaders Project Player

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                                    george33
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                                    @No-Quarter Roigard, is he locked in?,

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                                      @reprobate
                                      Yeah I have Roigard and Ratima 1 & 2 a horses for courses type selection for them.
                                      Fakatava though is probably who I would want coming off the bench for impact.
                                      So they are my top 3 atm
                                      Holtham bubbling under just needs more time to learn his trade no need to rush him.
                                      Under that we are well served for back ups: Christie, Preston and Hastie looking good so I don't see 9 as the weakness I thought it would be after Smith departed.

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                                      @kidcalder said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Christie, Preston and Hastie looking good so I don't see 9 as the weakness I thought it would be after Smith departed.

                                      In what world is Christie looking good?

                                      He's been rightfully passed by Funaki now that Funaki is fit finally.

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                                        @No-Quarter Roigard, is he locked in?,

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                                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @No-Quarter Roigard, is he locked in?,

                                        Yes. Razor is a gigantic Roigard fan. Assuming he's fit Roigard is one of the safest bets there is in the whole squad

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                                        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                          @kidcalder said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Christie, Preston and Hastie looking good so I don't see 9 as the weakness I thought it would be after Smith departed.

                                          In what world is Christie looking good?

                                          He's been rightfully passed by Funaki now that Funaki is fit finally.

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                                          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @kidcalder said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Christie, Preston and Hastie looking good so I don't see 9 as the weakness I thought it would be after Smith departed.

                                          In what world is Christie looking good?

                                          He's been rightfully passed by Funaki now that Funaki is fit finally.

                                          In Fozzieworld he's still good. Still shake my head that Roigard could have been RWC23s Nehe Milne Skudder (new kid who tears it up) and he went for the ginger instead

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