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    Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?

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    @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:

    Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?

    Yeah but remember people slammed the Crusaders when Amua signed with them same scenario here.
    Expect the Chiefs to cop some.

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    @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:

    Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?

    Completely. Which is part of the problem. NZR pays their salaries, and allows certain franchises to stockpile players. The better the spread. The better NZR looks around the competency of its players ans teams show casing their skills every week.

    NZR has a role to offer a bit of a guiding hand. Encouraging a good spread.

    Bit different in this case as I'm not totally sure on the financial relationship between NZR and MP contracted players.

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    I’m very pleased but also this is a bit shit for MP. I’m more pleased though.

    And Crusaders keep your fucking hands off Mathis.

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    @Yeetyaah A replacement for Stevenson? I expect Coombes-Fabling won't be re-signed as he hasn't played at all due to injury. There could still be one other new outside back.

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    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2025:

    I’m very pleased but also this is a bit shit for MP. I’m more pleased though.

    And Crusaders keep your fucking hands off Mathis.

    Too late

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    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2025:

    I’m very pleased but also this is a bit shit for MP

    It's also rather shit for Tonga - the international team he has played for several times.

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    @Chris said in Chiefs 2025:

    @Frank said in Chiefs 2025:

    Who was that NPC player who played for Waikato on the wing last year but is actually a loose forward? Forgot his name.

    Oli Mathis he is currently injury cover for Dom Gardiner at the Crusaders

    He looked like a star at NPC level......

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    @Chris said in Chiefs 2025:

    @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:

    Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?

    Yeah but remember people slammed the Crusaders when Amua signed with them same scenario here.
    Expect the Chiefs to cop some.

    Same again, he can do what he likes providing there's an opportunity for him to do so?

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    @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:

    @Chris said in Chiefs 2025:

    @Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:

    Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?

    Yeah but remember people slammed the Crusaders when Amua signed with them same scenario here.
    Expect the Chiefs to cop some.

    Same again, he can do what he likes providing there's an opportunity for him to do so?

    Yes and no Mathis is not playing for another franchise as a full contracted player.
    I understand Kyren wanting to be an AB and moving for his own reasons.
    But it is bad that MP are leaking players again Amua going to the crusaders was bad as well,and jimmy going to the Landers was as bad.
    MP are really building as a franchise if they keep leaking top players they are going to collapse I don't want to see that I think MP is a breath of fresh air for SR.
    We are all worse off in my opinion if MP collapse due to not being able to keep their best players.

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    How is the player poaching stopped then?

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    That article explains the financial reasons for Taumoefolau to go, but going to the Chiefs is a bit of a risk. As has been pointed out, it isn't like he walks in and starts... if everyone was fit and firing, as of now he makes the Chiefs bench at best - despite how good he has been.

    Look at Aumua - the grass is not always greener...

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    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2025:

    And Crusaders keep your fucking hands off Mathis.

    I can tell you that they are working to keep him around for next season. Whether it happens is another story, but they are working to try and get something done with him.

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    Taking my chiefs hat off, I actually completely agree.

    The only way out of it, in my opinion, is to allow more of them to declare for the ABs, but then the MP experience aspect gets fucked up, and that's not to mention the impact on the PIs. who want to use MP to give their players time / develop players for international level.

    I dunno.

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    @Landers92 said in Chiefs 2025:

    @gt12 said in Chiefs 2025:

    And Crusaders keep your fucking hands off Mathis.

    I can tell you that they are working to keep him around for next season. Whether it happens is another story, but they are working to try and get something done with him.

    Fuck! They'd be mad not to, I argued for him to get a full contract this year to prevent exactly this sort of situation happening.

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    To put a bit of balance into this thread - MP poached the MVP of the competition.

    Plus, Taumoefolau is a Kiwi who wants to play for the ABs, it also frees up a spot for a new PI player to grab a contract.

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    @Nepia said in Chiefs 2025:

    it also frees up a spot for a new PI player to grab a contract.

    Not a position that lacks candidates.

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    @frugby said in Chiefs 2025:

    That article explains the financial reasons for Taumoefolau to go

    Can you expand on this. I can't read the whole article due to the paywall.

    I would have assumed that the salary cap for MP is the same as the NZ teams. NZR does provide financial assistance to them.

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    Getting back to Sititi, it sounds like the Blues did make an offer.

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    Not that happy about Taumoefolau signing from MP. Would have hoped Tepaea Cook Savage got that spot. MP needs to build a stronger squad v

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