Chiefs 2025
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I’m very pleased but also this is a bit shit for MP. I’m more pleased though.
And Crusaders keep your fucking hands off Mathis.
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@Frank said in Chiefs 2025:
Who was that NPC player who played for Waikato on the wing last year but is actually a loose forward? Forgot his name.
Oli Mathis he is currently injury cover for Dom Gardiner at the Crusaders
@Chris said in Chiefs 2025:
@Frank said in Chiefs 2025:
Who was that NPC player who played for Waikato on the wing last year but is actually a loose forward? Forgot his name.
Oli Mathis he is currently injury cover for Dom Gardiner at the Crusaders
He looked like a star at NPC level......
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@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:
Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?
Yeah but remember people slammed the Crusaders when Amua signed with them same scenario here.
Expect the Chiefs to cop some.@Chris said in Chiefs 2025:
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:
Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?
Yeah but remember people slammed the Crusaders when Amua signed with them same scenario here.
Expect the Chiefs to cop some.Same again, he can do what he likes providing there's an opportunity for him to do so?
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@Chris said in Chiefs 2025:
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:
Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?
Yeah but remember people slammed the Crusaders when Amua signed with them same scenario here.
Expect the Chiefs to cop some.Same again, he can do what he likes providing there's an opportunity for him to do so?
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:
@Chris said in Chiefs 2025:
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:
Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?
Yeah but remember people slammed the Crusaders when Amua signed with them same scenario here.
Expect the Chiefs to cop some.Same again, he can do what he likes providing there's an opportunity for him to do so?
Yes and no Mathis is not playing for another franchise as a full contracted player.
I understand Kyren wanting to be an AB and moving for his own reasons.
But it is bad that MP are leaking players again Amua going to the crusaders was bad as well,and jimmy going to the Landers was as bad.
MP are really building as a franchise if they keep leaking top players they are going to collapse I don't want to see that I think MP is a breath of fresh air for SR.
We are all worse off in my opinion if MP collapse due to not being able to keep their best players. -
That article explains the financial reasons for Taumoefolau to go, but going to the Chiefs is a bit of a risk. As has been pointed out, it isn't like he walks in and starts... if everyone was fit and firing, as of now he makes the Chiefs bench at best - despite how good he has been.
Look at Aumua - the grass is not always greener...
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I’m very pleased but also this is a bit shit for MP. I’m more pleased though.
And Crusaders keep your fucking hands off Mathis.
@gt12 said in Chiefs 2025:
And Crusaders keep your fucking hands off Mathis.
I can tell you that they are working to keep him around for next season. Whether it happens is another story, but they are working to try and get something done with him.
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@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:
@Chris said in Chiefs 2025:
@Yeetyaah said in Chiefs 2025:
Obviously my opinion is from a Chiefs supporter perspective but at the end of the day players go where they want to go right?
Yeah but remember people slammed the Crusaders when Amua signed with them same scenario here.
Expect the Chiefs to cop some.Same again, he can do what he likes providing there's an opportunity for him to do so?
Yes and no Mathis is not playing for another franchise as a full contracted player.
I understand Kyren wanting to be an AB and moving for his own reasons.
But it is bad that MP are leaking players again Amua going to the crusaders was bad as well,and jimmy going to the Landers was as bad.
MP are really building as a franchise if they keep leaking top players they are going to collapse I don't want to see that I think MP is a breath of fresh air for SR.
We are all worse off in my opinion if MP collapse due to not being able to keep their best players.Taking my chiefs hat off, I actually completely agree.
The only way out of it, in my opinion, is to allow more of them to declare for the ABs, but then the MP experience aspect gets fucked up, and that's not to mention the impact on the PIs. who want to use MP to give their players time / develop players for international level.
I dunno.
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@gt12 said in Chiefs 2025:
And Crusaders keep your fucking hands off Mathis.
I can tell you that they are working to keep him around for next season. Whether it happens is another story, but they are working to try and get something done with him.
@Landers92 said in Chiefs 2025:
@gt12 said in Chiefs 2025:
And Crusaders keep your fucking hands off Mathis.
I can tell you that they are working to keep him around for next season. Whether it happens is another story, but they are working to try and get something done with him.
Fuck! They'd be mad not to, I argued for him to get a full contract this year to prevent exactly this sort of situation happening.
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To put a bit of balance into this thread - MP poached the MVP of the competition.
Plus, Taumoefolau is a Kiwi who wants to play for the ABs, it also frees up a spot for a new PI player to grab a contract.
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That article explains the financial reasons for Taumoefolau to go, but going to the Chiefs is a bit of a risk. As has been pointed out, it isn't like he walks in and starts... if everyone was fit and firing, as of now he makes the Chiefs bench at best - despite how good he has been.
Look at Aumua - the grass is not always greener...
@frugby said in Chiefs 2025:
That article explains the financial reasons for Taumoefolau to go
Can you expand on this. I can't read the whole article due to the paywall.
I would have assumed that the salary cap for MP is the same as the NZ teams. NZR does provide financial assistance to them.
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@frugby said in Chiefs 2025:
That article explains the financial reasons for Taumoefolau to go
Can you expand on this. I can't read the whole article due to the paywall.
I would have assumed that the salary cap for MP is the same as the NZ teams. NZR does provide financial assistance to them.
@Bovidae said in Chiefs 2025:
@frugby said in Chiefs 2025:
That article explains the financial reasons for Taumoefolau to go
Can you expand on this. I can't read the whole article due to the paywall.
I would have assumed that the salary cap for MP is the same as the NZ teams. NZR does provide financial assistance to them.
From the article: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/moana-pasifika-winger-kyren-taumoefolau-set-to-join-chiefs/RW4FW5ZDM5HNNGY345E6QAQFMQ/
*But even if Taumoefolau doesn’t make the All Blacks, he’ll still benefit from a suite of financial perks that are open to players contracted to the Blues, the Chiefs, the Hurricanes, the Crusaders and the Highlanders, but not Moana.
Under the terms of the collective agreement between the Rugby Players’ Association and NZR, there are various loyalty payments available to incentivise individuals to remain in New Zealand.
A player contracted to play in the NPC and Super Rugby Pacific receives an additional loyalty payment of $5,000 a year, which rises to $12,500 after they have been here for three years and then becomes $35,000 if they stay for five.
There is also a savings scheme open to players from the foundation clubs, where the player payment pool – the money NZR sets aside to meet salaries – will contribute $2.50 for every $1 a player invests (up to $12,500 a year) rising to $3 for every $1 (up to $15,000) if that player has been contracted for five years.*
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Players unavailable due to injury
Etene Nanai-Seturo, Hamstring, Returning Soon
Kaleb Trask, Ankle, Mid-term
Anton Lienert Brown, Collarbone, Mid-term
Malachi Wrampling, Hamstring, Mid-term
Fiti Sa, Shoulder, Long-term
Rameka Poihipi, Knee, Season
Sione Ahio, Ankle [RTP]
Liam Coombes-Fabling, Hamstring [RTP]
Manaaki Selby Ricket, Toe, [RTP] -
Had hoped we might see Nanai-Seturo this week. Back options rather limited if any further injuries.
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@ARHS said in Chiefs 2025:
What has happened to Andrew Smith? I had expected him and Mathis to be in Chiefs WTG.
Smith was on the Hautapu team list a couple of weeks back, so I assume he got a long-term injury during the NPC. Didn't play last round though. I'd bank on him being in the Waikato NPC squad as a lock. Mathis went to NZ sevens after the NPC.
