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  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

    Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
    Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
    Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
    Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

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    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

    Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
    Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
    Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
    Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

    The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

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    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

      Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
      Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
      Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
      Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

      The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

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      @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

      @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

      Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
      Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
      Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
      Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

      The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

      And to show progress building the squad

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      • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

        Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
        Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
        Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
        Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

        The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

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        @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

        @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

        Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
        Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
        Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
        Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

        The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

        They did exactly that last year with 10 out of 14 games won though.

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        • MN5M MN5

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

          Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
          Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
          Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
          Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

          The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

          They did exactly that last year with 10 out of 14 games won though.

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          @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

          @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

          Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
          Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
          Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
          Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

          The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

          They did exactly that last year with 10 out of 14 games won though.

          Losing 4 tests in a year is an average year for the ABs.

          The losses weren’t scrutinised as much as they will be this year. The expectation (like it used to be) will be to win every game we play this year and when we lose, the blow torch will be turned up a little more by both the fans and media. This is a good thing IMO because we want to get back to being the best again.

          Losing to Argentina for example won’t be tolerated again.

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          • canefanC canefan

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

            Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
            Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
            Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
            Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

            The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

            And to show progress building the squad

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            @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

            @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

            Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
            Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
            Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
            Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

            The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

            And to show progress building the squad

            And to win well. Fuck being an AB coach.

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            • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

              Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
              Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
              Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
              Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

              The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

              They did exactly that last year with 10 out of 14 games won though.

              Losing 4 tests in a year is an average year for the ABs.

              The losses weren’t scrutinised as much as they will be this year. The expectation (like it used to be) will be to win every game we play this year and when we lose, the blow torch will be turned up a little more by both the fans and media. This is a good thing IMO because we want to get back to being the best again.

              Losing to Argentina for example won’t be tolerated again.

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              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

              @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

              @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

              Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
              Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
              Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
              Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

              The pressure valve will go right up on Robertson this year IMO. I think much of the public gave him a fair bit of leeway last year, but the expectation will be a lot higher this year for the ABs to win the majority of tests they play.

              They did exactly that last year with 10 out of 14 games won though.

              Losing 4 tests in a year is an average year for the ABs.

              The losses weren’t scrutinised as much as they will be this year. The expectation (like it used to be) will be to win every game we play this year and when we lose, the blow torch will be turned up a little more by both the fans and media. This is a good thing IMO because we want to get back to being the best again.

              Losing to Argentina for example won’t be tolerated again.

              You reckon ?

              I remember the media jizz fest before Razor even started, lauding him as a messiah after the ‘horrible’ years of Ian Foster ( who had just guided the ABs to a WC final it needs to be said )

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                Screenshot 2025-05-21 at 6.54.04 PM.png

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                  You're saying we have endure another fucking month of speculation and argument before we get the team??? Not sure I can take it

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                  • sparkyS sparky

                    @Canes4life I think that's very close, but I think Holland and Tupaea will be in the squad.

                    I also think Leroy Carter might make it.

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                    @sparky hearing from a credible source that Simon Parker is right in the mix , they like the fact that he is a very big and tall back row forward who carries extremely well and is a line out option that can moved around the lineout set up ,more importantly would add a strong balance to a shorter back row even he’s rolled out for the first 60 minutes
                    You don’t realise how big the guy is until your standing beside him ,6’4 and 117 kgs

                    From personal point of view it would compliment a coupe of dynamic loose forwards say Ardie at 7 and Wallace at 8 with an out and out 6 just doing the grind.
                    Can see a DPK coming off the bench for the last 20

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                    • S Steven Harris

                      @sparky hearing from a credible source that Simon Parker is right in the mix , they like the fact that he is a very big and tall back row forward who carries extremely well and is a line out option that can moved around the lineout set up ,more importantly would add a strong balance to a shorter back row even he’s rolled out for the first 60 minutes
                      You don’t realise how big the guy is until your standing beside him ,6’4 and 117 kgs

                      From personal point of view it would compliment a coupe of dynamic loose forwards say Ardie at 7 and Wallace at 8 with an out and out 6 just doing the grind.
                      Can see a DPK coming off the bench for the last 20

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                      @Steven-Harris that's pleasing to hear. Much rather have Parker in the squad than another 6.5 type

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Steven-Harris that's pleasing to hear. Much rather have Parker in the squad than another 6.5 type

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                        @KiwiMurph may not be as dynamic as some but I can also remember Alan Whetton who wasn’t flashy but complimented a very dynamic 7 and 8 ..Jones and Brooke names ring a bell

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                        • S Steven Harris

                          @sparky hearing from a credible source that Simon Parker is right in the mix , they like the fact that he is a very big and tall back row forward who carries extremely well and is a line out option that can moved around the lineout set up ,more importantly would add a strong balance to a shorter back row even he’s rolled out for the first 60 minutes
                          You don’t realise how big the guy is until your standing beside him ,6’4 and 117 kgs

                          From personal point of view it would compliment a coupe of dynamic loose forwards say Ardie at 7 and Wallace at 8 with an out and out 6 just doing the grind.
                          Can see a DPK coming off the bench for the last 20

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                          @Steven-Harris Interesting. I reckon he carries okay, but would rate Finau, Hoskins, Lakai ahead in that department (and Savea and Sititi, though they are better wider out). Does tackle pretty hard which is nice, though he doesn't make heaps.
                          At least he is a different style of player and a decent lump, which hopefully indicates a realisation that the balance had been wrong last year.

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                            @Steven-Harris Interesting. I reckon he carries okay, but would rate Finau, Hoskins, Lakai ahead in that department (and Savea and Sititi, though they are better wider out). Does tackle pretty hard which is nice, though he doesn't make heaps.
                            At least he is a different style of player and a decent lump, which hopefully indicates a realisation that the balance had been wrong last year.

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                            @reprobate definitely that balance piece like you say may not be as dynamic as players you mentioned but has the right physique to play international rugby
                            Interesting that the Chiefs have been rotating Parker and Finau during the season
                            Coaches choice or a message from another table ?

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                              He's currently playing like the player Grace was supposed to be.

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                                I wonder if that means no Hoskins

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                                • S Steven Harris

                                  @sparky hearing from a credible source that Simon Parker is right in the mix , they like the fact that he is a very big and tall back row forward who carries extremely well and is a line out option that can moved around the lineout set up ,more importantly would add a strong balance to a shorter back row even he’s rolled out for the first 60 minutes
                                  You don’t realise how big the guy is until your standing beside him ,6’4 and 117 kgs

                                  From personal point of view it would compliment a coupe of dynamic loose forwards say Ardie at 7 and Wallace at 8 with an out and out 6 just doing the grind.
                                  Can see a DPK coming off the bench for the last 20

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                                  @Steven-Harris Wouldn't be at all surprised. Assuming his internet dimensions are close to correct (and they look to be) he's the same sort of dimensions as Kaino - and these guys don't grow on trees.

                                  AB XV last year, so definitely in the frame.

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                                  • BerniesCornerB BerniesCorner

                                    Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
                                    Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
                                    Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
                                    Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

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                                    @BerniesCorner said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Regardless of anything this year with guys like Williams Taylor Lomax Barrett Vaai Savea Sititi Roigard DMac in the frontend we are going to be there, or there abouts.
                                    Last year didn't quite live up to my expectations. Here's hoping 2025 will.
                                    Biggest mistake in 2024 not starting DMac in Paris
                                    Splashed the cash on Scotland v ABs tickets. Chicago is a bit far for the weekend from London.

                                    7 hours on a plane isnt bro!?

                                    Great city for a long weekend!!

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                                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                      @Steven-Harris Wouldn't be at all surprised. Assuming his internet dimensions are close to correct (and they look to be) he's the same sort of dimensions as Kaino - and these guys don't grow on trees.

                                      AB XV last year, so definitely in the frame.

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                                      @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Steven-Harris Wouldn't be at all surprised. Assuming his internet dimensions are close to correct (and they look to be) he's the same sort of dimensions as Kaino - and these guys don't grow on trees.

                                      AB XV last year, so definitely in the frame.

                                      Selected behind Oli Haig, Christian Lio-Willie, Hoskins Sotutu, Caleb Delany and Devan Flanders mind you, so he would have made some big strides this year (in part thanks to injuries to others).

                                      I'm still not entirely sold on Parker. A great physical specimen but lacks aggression at times. Would love to see him put in the odd run like an Ollie Norris or Samipeni Finau but I guess you can't have it all.

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                                        @sparky hearing from a credible source that Simon Parker is right in the mix , they like the fact that he is a very big and tall back row forward who carries extremely well and is a line out option that can moved around the lineout set up ,more importantly would add a strong balance to a shorter back row even he’s rolled out for the first 60 minutes
                                        You don’t realise how big the guy is until your standing beside him ,6’4 and 117 kgs

                                        From personal point of view it would compliment a coupe of dynamic loose forwards say Ardie at 7 and Wallace at 8 with an out and out 6 just doing the grind.
                                        Can see a DPK coming off the bench for the last 20

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                                        @Steven-Harris Parker is listed at 1.97 m, which is the same height as Scott Barrett. That's about 6'5" in old money.

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                                          @Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Steven-Harris Wouldn't be at all surprised. Assuming his internet dimensions are close to correct (and they look to be) he's the same sort of dimensions as Kaino - and these guys don't grow on trees.

                                          AB XV last year, so definitely in the frame.

                                          Selected behind Oli Haig, Christian Lio-Willie, Hoskins Sotutu, Caleb Delany and Devan Flanders mind you, so he would have made some big strides this year (in part thanks to injuries to others).

                                          I'm still not entirely sold on Parker. A great physical specimen but lacks aggression at times. Would love to see him put in the odd run like an Ollie Norris or Samipeni Finau but I guess you can't have it all.

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                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          I'm still not entirely sold on Parker. A great physical specimen but lacks aggression at times. Would love to see him put in the odd run like an Ollie Norris or Samipeni Finau but I guess you can't have it all.

                                          Parker has been more aggressive and physical this year but I'd like to see him be more active. Injuries have been a problem until the last few years.

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