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Chiefs 2025

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  • BovidaeB Bovidae

    @frugby said in Chiefs 2025:

    That article explains the financial reasons for Taumoefolau to go

    Can you expand on this. I can't read the whole article due to the paywall.

    I would have assumed that the salary cap for MP is the same as the NZ teams. NZR does provide financial assistance to them.

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    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2025:

    @frugby said in Chiefs 2025:

    That article explains the financial reasons for Taumoefolau to go

    Can you expand on this. I can't read the whole article due to the paywall.

    I would have assumed that the salary cap for MP is the same as the NZ teams. NZR does provide financial assistance to them.

    From the article: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/rugby/super-rugby/moana-pasifika-winger-kyren-taumoefolau-set-to-join-chiefs/RW4FW5ZDM5HNNGY345E6QAQFMQ/

    *But even if Taumoefolau doesn’t make the All Blacks, he’ll still benefit from a suite of financial perks that are open to players contracted to the Blues, the Chiefs, the Hurricanes, the Crusaders and the Highlanders, but not Moana.

    Under the terms of the collective agreement between the Rugby Players’ Association and NZR, there are various loyalty payments available to incentivise individuals to remain in New Zealand.

    A player contracted to play in the NPC and Super Rugby Pacific receives an additional loyalty payment of $5,000 a year, which rises to $12,500 after they have been here for three years and then becomes $35,000 if they stay for five.

    There is also a savings scheme open to players from the foundation clubs, where the player payment pool – the money NZR sets aside to meet salaries – will contribute $2.50 for every $1 a player invests (up to $12,500 a year) rising to $3 for every $1 (up to $15,000) if that player has been contracted for five years.*

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      Players unavailable due to injury
      Etene Nanai-Seturo, Hamstring, Returning Soon
      Kaleb Trask, Ankle, Mid-term
      Anton Lienert Brown, Collarbone, Mid-term
      Malachi Wrampling, Hamstring, Mid-term
      Fiti Sa, Shoulder, Long-term
      Rameka Poihipi, Knee, Season
      Sione Ahio, Ankle [RTP]
      Liam Coombes-Fabling, Hamstring [RTP]
      Manaaki Selby Ricket, Toe, [RTP]

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        Had hoped we might see Nanai-Seturo this week. Back options rather limited if any further injuries.

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          Had hoped we might see Nanai-Seturo this week. Back options rather limited if any further injuries.

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          @ARHS said in Chiefs 2025:

          Had hoped we might see Nanai-Seturo this week. Back options rather limited if any further injuries.

          I think he is back training (based on SM photos) but I've no idea if ENS has even played club rugby on his return.

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            What has happened to Andrew Smith? I had expected him and Mathis to be in Chiefs WTG.

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              What has happened to Andrew Smith? I had expected him and Mathis to be in Chiefs WTG.

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              @ARHS said in Chiefs 2025:

              What has happened to Andrew Smith? I had expected him and Mathis to be in Chiefs WTG.

              Smith was on the Hautapu team list a couple of weeks back, so I assume he got a long-term injury during the NPC. Didn't play last round though. I'd bank on him being in the Waikato NPC squad as a lock. Mathis went to NZ sevens after the NPC.

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                Super thanks. Glad Smith is back, and at my old club...

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                • BovidaeB Bovidae

                  @Yeetyaah A replacement for Stevenson? I expect Coombes-Fabling won't be re-signed as he hasn't played at all due to injury. There could still be one other new outside back.

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                  @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2025:

                  @Yeetyaah A replacement for Stevenson? I expect Coombes-Fabling won't be re-signed as he hasn't played at all due to injury. There could still be one other new outside back.

                  Have heard from a source that the Chiefs have also signed Isaac Hutchinson for next season. Would be one back on the Crusaders

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                    @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2025:

                    @Yeetyaah A replacement for Stevenson? I expect Coombes-Fabling won't be re-signed as he hasn't played at all due to injury. There could still be one other new outside back.

                    Have heard from a source that the Chiefs have also signed Isaac Hutchinson for next season. Would be one back on the Crusaders

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                    @Fredsaua12 said in Chiefs 2025:

                    Have heard from a source that the Chiefs have also signed Isaac Hutchinson for next season. Would be one back on the Crusaders

                    Interesting. He would give you a winger/fullback. I would hope that the Chiefs would look local and convince either Frank Vaenuku or Cody Vai to switch back to XVs.

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                      @Bovidae said in Chiefs 2025:

                      @Yeetyaah A replacement for Stevenson? I expect Coombes-Fabling won't be re-signed as he hasn't played at all due to injury. There could still be one other new outside back.

                      Have heard from a source that the Chiefs have also signed Isaac Hutchinson for next season. Would be one back on the Crusaders

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                      @Fredsaua12 how good is he for those who watched Canterbury last npc mi

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                        @Fredsaua12 how good is he for those who watched Canterbury last npc mi

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                        @cliff had a real stand out game against Waikato last year scored a hatrick, can goal kick if needed. he's short but wouldn't call him a lightweight like a Coombes fabling

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                          @cliff had a real stand out game against Waikato last year scored a hatrick, can goal kick if needed. he's short but wouldn't call him a lightweight like a Coombes fabling

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                          @Grooter watched the highlights the lid looks a talent, if jacomb is moving to the landers then this kid is a good replacement but still bummed to loose Mathis to the saders he is going to be a generational talent

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                            @Grooter watched the highlights the lid looks a talent, if jacomb is moving to the landers then this kid is a good replacement but still bummed to loose Mathis to the saders he is going to be a generational talent

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                            @cliff said in Chiefs 2025:

                            @Grooter watched the highlights the lid looks a talent, if jacomb is moving to the landers then this kid is a good replacement but still bummed to loose Mathis to the saders he is going to be a generational talent

                            With Mathias. Is his route to starting in Super easier at the Crusaders going past Tom Christie. Or through the Chiefs through their loaded loosies. Same with the likes of Wrampling-Alec as a potential target for the Landers?

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                              I would rather have Mathis over kaylum boshier any day of the week

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                                I would rather have Mathis over kaylum boshier any day of the week

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                                @cliff said in Chiefs 2025:

                                I would rather have Mathis over kaylum boshier any day of the week

                                Yeah but from a NZ Rugby perspective. If Mathias is potentially one of the five guys NZ Rugby wants starting. Is the route quicker easier through Tom Christie or through Luke Jacobson who the Chiefs have been playing as their starting 7?

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                                  Chiefs need an extra 7 option in my view. Mathis allows the 6:2 split. So a cert for the 23 every time. Parker is not that 7.
                                  Don't know that he leapfrogs Kellow, Christie, Blackadder, Fihaki and Springer at the Crusaders.

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                                    I'm hopeful the Chiefs have discussed a plan with Oli. Veveni Lasaqa came through the Chiefs system too, so you don't want a repeat of that.

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                                      I'm getting angry just thinking about Mathis at the Saders. That better not fucking happen when we've still got Boshier running around and needing to move Jacobson to 7 because we don't have a specialist.

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                                        Let's hope the chiefs are smart enough and made some sort of agreement with oli mathis

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                                          If Jacomb does head to the Highlanders the ideal "new" replacement would be Tepaea Cook-Savage. He can play 10/15 and has also played at 2nd 5 and on the wing. He would be the ideal squad utility back.

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