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All Blacks 2025

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  • M Mattasaurus

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    The pick "Reiko Ioane over Billy Proctor" brigade have gone very, very quiet recently and rightly so.

    But Reiko Ioane will be picked over Billy Proctor, though - at least for the 1st French test. Best we can hope for is Proctor to get serious game time and poss. start one of the Tests.

    What are these people seeing from Reiko that even suggests AB selection?

    Winger is his only position, he's proven to be ineffectual at best at 13 for years now....and also, smart teams will target him with niggle to get responses

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    KiwiMurph
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    #2457

    @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    The pick "Reiko Ioane over Billy Proctor" brigade have gone very, very quiet recently and rightly so.

    But Reiko Ioane will be picked over Billy Proctor, though - at least for the 1st French test. Best we can hope for is Proctor to get serious game time and poss. start one of the Tests.

    What are these people seeing from Reiko that even suggests AB selection?

    Winger is his only position, he's proven to be ineffectual at best at 13 for years now....and also, smart teams will target him with niggle to get responses

    His form for the ABs is better than it is for the Blues.

    Target him with niggle? I can't recall Rieko being a problem discipline wise for the ABs. Some push and shove after the whistle is about it

    Meanwhile ALB spends half his time in the bin.

    I'd start Proctor but Rieko is worthy of seeing if he can show form for the ABs - he is a interesting option for the 23 jersey with his ability to cover 13 and both wings.

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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      The pick "Reiko Ioane over Billy Proctor" brigade have gone very, very quiet recently and rightly so.

      But Reiko Ioane will be picked over Billy Proctor, though - at least for the 1st French test. Best we can hope for is Proctor to get serious game time and poss. start one of the Tests.

      What are these people seeing from Reiko that even suggests AB selection?

      Winger is his only position, he's proven to be ineffectual at best at 13 for years now....and also, smart teams will target him with niggle to get responses

      His form for the ABs is better than it is for the Blues.

      Target him with niggle? I can't recall Rieko being a problem discipline wise for the ABs. Some push and shove after the whistle is about it

      Meanwhile ALB spends half his time in the bin.

      I'd start Proctor but Rieko is worthy of seeing if he can show form for the ABs - he is a interesting option for the 23 jersey with his ability to cover 13 and both wings.

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      Nepia
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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

      Target him with niggle? I can't recall Rieko being a problem discipline wise for the ABs. Some push and shove after the whistle is about it

      The Ioane myth, meanwhile the Barrett's can fill a whole room with their cards and penalties.

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        Landers92
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        #2459

        Holland did absolutely no damage to his case last night. Stand out performance and only going to get better. Out shown Barrett in a big way

        When do we start to have a little concern over Barrett’s form or are we confident he finds it in the black jersey? Aside from the Canes game he’s been extremely quiet… especially for an AB captain.

        I’d prefer Ardie as captain(as I’m sure everyone on the country outside of Canterbury would) but I’m sure Razor doesn’t see it that way. From the things I was hearing inside AB camp last year, he really needs to weigh up his captaincy decision.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

          Target him with niggle? I can't recall Rieko being a problem discipline wise for the ABs. Some push and shove after the whistle is about it

          The Ioane myth, meanwhile the Barrett's can fill a whole room with their cards and penalties.

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          African Monkey
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          #2460

          @Nepia said in All Blacks 2025:

          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

          Target him with niggle? I can't recall Rieko being a problem discipline wise for the ABs. Some push and shove after the whistle is about it

          The Ioane myth, meanwhile the Barrett's can fill a whole room with their cards and penalties.

          Don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

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          • Landers92L Landers92

            Holland did absolutely no damage to his case last night. Stand out performance and only going to get better. Out shown Barrett in a big way

            When do we start to have a little concern over Barrett’s form or are we confident he finds it in the black jersey? Aside from the Canes game he’s been extremely quiet… especially for an AB captain.

            I’d prefer Ardie as captain(as I’m sure everyone on the country outside of Canterbury would) but I’m sure Razor doesn’t see it that way. From the things I was hearing inside AB camp last year, he really needs to weigh up his captaincy decision.

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            Frank
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            @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

            From the things I was hearing inside AB camp last year, he really needs to weigh up his captaincy decision.

            What were you hearing?

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            • F Frank

              @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

              From the things I was hearing inside AB camp last year, he really needs to weigh up his captaincy decision.

              What were you hearing?

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              Landers92
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              #2462

              @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

              From the things I was hearing inside AB camp last year, he really needs to weigh up his captaincy decision.

              What were you hearing?

              You may have missed my posts last year during test season. I think you can read between the lines though. There’s a team captain and then there’s the players captain… I’ll let you work out who

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                Frank
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                #2463

                Wow! Big if true. I'd switch captains if this was true.

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                  Chris
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                  #2464

                  All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
                  The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

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                    Frank
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                    #2465

                    Yeah, sounds a bit fishy. Mildly mutinous even

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                      gt12
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                      It wouldn’t be the first time a coach with strong ties to one region was appointed and it caused friction when they favor players they know.

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                      • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                        @Mattasaurus said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                        The pick "Reiko Ioane over Billy Proctor" brigade have gone very, very quiet recently and rightly so.

                        But Reiko Ioane will be picked over Billy Proctor, though - at least for the 1st French test. Best we can hope for is Proctor to get serious game time and poss. start one of the Tests.

                        What are these people seeing from Reiko that even suggests AB selection?

                        Winger is his only position, he's proven to be ineffectual at best at 13 for years now....and also, smart teams will target him with niggle to get responses

                        His form for the ABs is better than it is for the Blues.

                        Target him with niggle? I can't recall Rieko being a problem discipline wise for the ABs. Some push and shove after the whistle is about it

                        Meanwhile ALB spends half his time in the bin.

                        I'd start Proctor but Rieko is worthy of seeing if he can show form for the ABs - he is a interesting option for the 23 jersey with his ability to cover 13 and both wings.

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                        booboo
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                        #2467

                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                        Target him with niggle? I can't recall Rieko being a problem discipline wise for the ABs. Some push and shove after the whistle is about it

                        He might call a fluffybunny a fluffybunny, or post something on Instagram ...

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                          Bones
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                          #2468

                          Surprise surprise I'm here to be a broken record again.

                          Was hoping this year would be Rieko's "breakout" year where he really got it at centre. But his attack has seemingly gone backwards and while a small part of that is how he's being used, it appears a larger part is simply his inability to read the opposition and skills failing him under pressure.

                          He uses fuck all footwork on the carry and pretty much always tucks the ball and puts his head down, runs straight at the defence, shit he makes it easy for the opposition.

                          It's confusing - you'd think coaches would identify this and work with him on it, but something's not clicking there and he can't be ignoring them otherwise he'd be dropped, right?

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                          • BonesB Bones

                            Surprise surprise I'm here to be a broken record again.

                            Was hoping this year would be Rieko's "breakout" year where he really got it at centre. But his attack has seemingly gone backwards and while a small part of that is how he's being used, it appears a larger part is simply his inability to read the opposition and skills failing him under pressure.

                            He uses fuck all footwork on the carry and pretty much always tucks the ball and puts his head down, runs straight at the defence, shit he makes it easy for the opposition.

                            It's confusing - you'd think coaches would identify this and work with him on it, but something's not clicking there and he can't be ignoring them otherwise he'd be dropped, right?

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                            taniwharugby
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                            #2469

                            @Bones had high hopes under O'halloran....

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              Surprise surprise I'm here to be a broken record again.

                              Was hoping this year would be Rieko's "breakout" year where he really got it at centre. But his attack has seemingly gone backwards and while a small part of that is how he's being used, it appears a larger part is simply his inability to read the opposition and skills failing him under pressure.

                              He uses fuck all footwork on the carry and pretty much always tucks the ball and puts his head down, runs straight at the defence, shit he makes it easy for the opposition.

                              It's confusing - you'd think coaches would identify this and work with him on it, but something's not clicking there and he can't be ignoring them otherwise he'd be dropped, right?

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                              KiwiMurph
                              wrote on last edited by KiwiMurph
                              #2470

                              @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                              It's confusing - you'd think coaches would identify this and work with him on it, but something's not clicking there and he can't be ignoring them otherwise he'd be dropped, right?

                              Same goes for a complete lack of kicking game. Rieko's been playing test rugby for a decade and hasn't developed even a hint of a kicking game. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I've seen Rieko ever kick the ball.

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                              • ChrisC Chris

                                All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
                                The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

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                                KiwiMurph
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                                #2471

                                @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                                We know who will be the captain. We are talking about who should be the captain.

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                                • ChrisC Chris

                                  All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
                                  The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

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                                  george33
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                                  #2472

                                  @Chris Barrett will be captain, and Reiko will be 13, just a done deal, like it or not.

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                                  • G george33

                                    @Chris Barrett will be captain, and Reiko will be 13, just a done deal, like it or not.

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                                    Chris
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                                    #2473

                                    @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @Chris Barrett will be captain, and Reiko will be 13, just a done deal, like it or not.

                                    Yep

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                                    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                                      We know who will be the captain. We are talking about who should be the captain.

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                                      Chris
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #2474

                                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                                      We know who will be the captain. We are talking about who should be the captain.

                                      In your opinion not the All blacks opinion.

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                                      • ChrisC Chris

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                                        We know who will be the captain. We are talking about who should be the captain.

                                        In your opinion not the All blacks opinion.

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                                        Bones
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                                        #2475

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                                        We know who will be the captain. We are talking about who should be the captain.

                                        In your opinion not the All blacks opinion.

                                        Shit, you mean KM isn't the All Blacks and is just here posting his own opinion? What the fuck is the point then eh

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                                          Bones
                                          wrote on last edited by Bones
                                          #2476

                                          Although after a post just above I now have serious doubts Barrett and Ioane will even be selected.

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