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  • sparkyS sparky

    @Mr-Fish I'd have thought the All Blacks XV is more likely for Daniel Rona, but he's playing that's for sure.

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    @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

    @Mr-Fish I'd have thought the All Blacks XV is more likely for Daniel Rona, but he's playing that's for sure.

    Probably the best performing No 13 in Super Rugby this year - although it's not been a standout season for outside centres.

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      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Mr-Fish I'd have thought the All Blacks XV is more likely for Daniel Rona, but he's playing that's for sure.

      Probably the best performing No 13 in Super Rugby this year - although it's not been a standout season for outside centres.

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      @Mr-Fish Nope, that's Billy Proctor.

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        @Mr-Fish Nope, that's Billy Proctor.

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        @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Mr-Fish Nope, that's Billy Proctor.

        Proctor's only played four and a half games but has obviously been very good across those matches.

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        • sparkyS sparky

          @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

          Narawa over Reece.

          Based on what? I hate picking players from the Crusaders as much as anyone but Reece is the better player at the minute.

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          @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

          @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

          Narawa over Reece.

          Based on what? I hate picking players from the Crusaders as much as anyone but Reece is the better player at the minute.

          Nothing more than the whim of the moment.

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          • gt12G gt12

            @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

            @Duluth How many tries has Caleb Clarke scored in Super Rugby this season?

            Apart from the fact that he's been injured, have you missed the memo about Super rugby form?

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            @gt12 I don't know if sparks takes too much notice a lot of the time, the other day Parker was a blindside only.

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              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Mr-Fish I'd have thought the All Blacks XV is more likely for Daniel Rona, but he's playing that's for sure.

              Probably the best performing No 13 in Super Rugby this year - although it's not been a standout season for outside centres.

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              @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

              @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

              @Mr-Fish I'd have thought the All Blacks XV is more likely for Daniel Rona, but he's playing that's for sure.

              Probably the best performing No 13 in Super Rugby this year - although it's not been a standout season for outside centres.

              He does a lot right eh, reads the game brilliantly.

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                He is for sure the form 13, but I do see him drop off a couple tackles a game.
                Way better than Reiko on attack, but a little behind defensively. I'm sure he can work on it.
                And I wouldn't consider Love as a winger, he really lacks enough pace to play there, from what I have seen.

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                  He is for sure the form 13, but I do see him drop off a couple tackles a game.
                  Way better than Reiko on attack, but a little behind defensively. I'm sure he can work on it.
                  And I wouldn't consider Love as a winger, he really lacks enough pace to play there, from what I have seen.

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                  @Darren I would wager he's quicker than Telea and Reece, at the very least.

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                    He is for sure the form 13, but I do see him drop off a couple tackles a game.
                    Way better than Reiko on attack, but a little behind defensively. I'm sure he can work on it.
                    And I wouldn't consider Love as a winger, he really lacks enough pace to play there, from what I have seen.

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                    @Darren said in All Blacks 2025:

                    He is for sure the form 13, but I do see him drop off a couple tackles a game.
                    Way better than Reiko on attack, but a little behind defensively. I'm sure he can work on it.
                    And I wouldn't consider Love as a winger, he really lacks enough pace to play there, from what I have seen.

                    Tackling at a little under 80% for the season - which is not fantastic, you'd really want to be closer to 85% as an outside centre.

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                    • sparkyS sparky

                      @gt12 It's was interesting hearing Grant Fox on the Good, the Bad and the Rugby this week (link below) talking about his time All Blacks selector working under Steve Hansen's leadership.

                      Every year they'd be an established All Black or two who would be playing below expectation in Super Rugby and Shag would use his network as a ex-cop to find out what was going on off the field around the player (there was always something).

                      Hansen would visit the player and ask "Is there something we (the All Blacks coaches) can help with?"

                      I suspect Reiko Ioane and Caleb Clarke have already had the "Is there something we can help with" conversation this year.

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                      @sparky said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @gt12 It's was interesting hearing Grant Fox on the Good, the Bad and the Rugby this week (link below) talking about his time All Blacks selector working under Steve Hansen's leadership.

                      Every year they'd be an established All Black or two who would be playing below expectation in Super Rugby and Shag would use his network as a ex-cop to find out what was going on off the field around the player (there was always something).

                      Hansen would visit the player and ask "Is there something we (the All Blacks coaches) can help with?"

                      > I suspect Reiko Ioane and Caleb Clarke have already had the "Is there something we can help with" conversation this year.

                      Yep. The solutions are ‘switch back to the wing’ and ‘don’t have high speed chases with police in your spare time’ respectively.

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                      • ChrisC Chris

                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                        All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
                        The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                        It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.

                        The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.

                        You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.

                        We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.

                        Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
                        Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
                        A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.

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                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                        All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
                        The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                        It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.

                        The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.

                        You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.

                        We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.

                        Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
                        Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
                        A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.

                        Facts are opinions now? Yes I along with the rest of the country outside of Canterbury have no doubt he’s still the captain. I’m not going to be a broken record just so you can get my point though.

                        Be interesting to know who are on thin ice. You have any names?

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                        • BonesB Bones

                          @Darren I would wager he's quicker than Telea and Reece, at the very least.

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                          @Bones said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Darren I would wager he's quicker than Telea and Reece, at the very least.

                          You may be right, but I have been a little disappointed with Love's pace this year (and towards the end of last year I think). For some reason I thought he was faster.

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                            Would have thought a lot of scrutiny around the form and consistency of Rieko, Clarke, Blackadder, Ofa, Christie and Aumua. So I would be hoping there would be conversations around how well each can perform for All Blacks v France. So the playoffs will be critical for these guys in my view and for the contenders for their spots.
                            I can see spots for a new prop, lock, loosie and wing at least. So 4 to 6 newbies in the squad of 35.
                            I hope the various posts about who is in and out are truly just speculation at the moment. It is the next 3 or 4 weeks that count for the most. Any of the 6 I named can secure a spot with playoffs form. Just Holland Big Jim Ardie and De Groot unlikely not to have chance.

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                              Would have thought a lot of scrutiny around the form and consistency of Rieko, Clarke, Blackadder, Ofa, Christie and Aumua. So I would be hoping there would be conversations around how well each can perform for All Blacks v France. So the playoffs will be critical for these guys in my view and for the contenders for their spots.
                              I can see spots for a new prop, lock, loosie and wing at least. So 4 to 6 newbies in the squad of 35.
                              I hope the various posts about who is in and out are truly just speculation at the moment. It is the next 3 or 4 weeks that count for the most. Any of the 6 I named can secure a spot with playoffs form. Just Holland Big Jim Ardie and De Groot unlikely not to have chance.

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                              @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Would have thought a lot of scrutiny around the form and consistency of Rieko, Clarke, Blackadder, Ofa, Christie and Aumua.

                              I'd be highly surprised if he is even being considered anymore

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                              • A ARHS

                                Would have thought a lot of scrutiny around the form and consistency of Rieko, Clarke, Blackadder, Ofa, Christie and Aumua. So I would be hoping there would be conversations around how well each can perform for All Blacks v France. So the playoffs will be critical for these guys in my view and for the contenders for their spots.
                                I can see spots for a new prop, lock, loosie and wing at least. So 4 to 6 newbies in the squad of 35.
                                I hope the various posts about who is in and out are truly just speculation at the moment. It is the next 3 or 4 weeks that count for the most. Any of the 6 I named can secure a spot with playoffs form. Just Holland Big Jim Ardie and De Groot unlikely not to have chance.

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                                @ARHS to be fair to Ofa he only played 4 rounds before a season ending neck injury took him out Clark imo has a test ceiling i do believe the Blues game plan does not do him any favours
                                Amua has played himself out of contention and i agree Christie should not even be in the picture

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                                  @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Would have thought a lot of scrutiny around the form and consistency of Rieko, Clarke, Blackadder, Ofa, Christie and Aumua.

                                  I'd be highly surprised if he is even being considered anymore

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                                  @Frank said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @ARHS said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Would have thought a lot of scrutiny around the form and consistency of Rieko, Clarke, Blackadder, Ofa, Christie and Aumua.

                                  I'd be highly surprised if he is even be considered anymore

                                  Crumbs, I hope they've moved well on from him.

                                  I should be the first to shout from the rooftops that a Scotland born ranga is in the team but he is as vanilla as they get.

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                                    @ARHS to be fair to Ofa he only played 4 rounds before a season ending neck injury took him out Clark imo has a test ceiling i do believe the Blues game plan does not do him any favours
                                    Amua has played himself out of contention and i agree Christie should not even be in the picture

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                                    @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Amua has played himself out of contention and i agree Christie should not even be in the picture

                                    The good thing for Aumua is that the next one in line is not obvious. The selectors might also see him as a bit of a 'project'. He's still young enough.

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                                      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Amua has played himself out of contention and i agree Christie should not even be in the picture

                                      The good thing for Aumua is that the next one in line is not obvious. The selectors might also see him as a bit of a 'project'. He's still young enough.

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                                      @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Steven-Harris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      Amua has played himself out of contention and i agree Christie should not even be in the picture

                                      The good thing for Aumua is that the next one in line is not obvious. The selectors might also see him as a bit of a 'project'. He's still young enough.

                                      He was a beast on the end of year tour. He's just out of form

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                                      • Landers92L Landers92

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
                                        The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                                        It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.

                                        The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.

                                        You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.

                                        We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.

                                        Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
                                        Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
                                        A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.

                                        Facts are opinions now? Yes I along with the rest of the country outside of Canterbury have no doubt he’s still the captain. I’m not going to be a broken record just so you can get my point though.

                                        Be interesting to know who are on thin ice. You have any names?

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                                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
                                        The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                                        It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.

                                        The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.

                                        You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.

                                        We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.

                                        Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
                                        Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
                                        A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.

                                        Facts are opinions now? Yes I along with the rest of the country outside of Canterbury have no doubt he’s still the captain. I’m not going to be a broken record just so you can get my point though.

                                        Be interesting to know who are on thin ice. You have any names?

                                        Amua form, De groot other things off the field.
                                        I hear patience is wearing thin.

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                                        • ChrisC Chris

                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
                                          The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                                          It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.

                                          The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.

                                          You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.

                                          We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.

                                          Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
                                          Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
                                          A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.

                                          Facts are opinions now? Yes I along with the rest of the country outside of Canterbury have no doubt he’s still the captain. I’m not going to be a broken record just so you can get my point though.

                                          Be interesting to know who are on thin ice. You have any names?

                                          Amua form, De groot other things off the field.
                                          I hear patience is wearing thin.

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                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Landers92 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          All speculation its not what I hear, very destructive talk.
                                          The Captain will be Scott Barrett 100%.

                                          It most probably will be because at the end of the day Razor gets to make the decision. Doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else though… and that’s a fact. Nothing destructive at all.

                                          The captain is also supported by the leadership group who endorse that selection and they have including Ardie so no issue.

                                          You can defend your boys as much as you want mate and that’s totally fine. I’m just stating that it doesn’t mean the players don’t gravitate and look to someone else and that is a fact. Nothing else to be said.

                                          We all know who Razor is picking mate. It is what it is. Just hope Barrett can pick his game up because as of right now based off form there’s an argument he shouldn’t even be in the starting XV.

                                          Sure you are entitled to your opinion as I am.
                                          Yeah it’s done deal Scooter will be Captain.
                                          A couple of current ABs are on thin ice and maybe dropped.

                                          Facts are opinions now? Yes I along with the rest of the country outside of Canterbury have no doubt he’s still the captain. I’m not going to be a broken record just so you can get my point though.

                                          Be interesting to know who are on thin ice. You have any names?

                                          Amua form, De groot other things off the field.
                                          I hear patience is wearing thin.

                                          Both will be in the squad.

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