Aaron Smith naughty boy?
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They'll be outed and regret this for s loooooong time. Sonny Shaw went public after an altercation with Jerry Collins, turned out he was a convicted rapist . This clown stands outside toilets recording the sounds of people fucking, any other grubby behavior that emerges is a bonus. And let's face it anyone who hangs around public toilets is bound to have a few skeletons rattling around in his closet.
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I don't really know how there's a problem that concerns anyone else but A Smith himself and his partner.
Astoundingly, this non-news even made news on Germany's biggest (reputable) online news magazine. And rugby is an absolute non-topic in Germany. Zero interest.
@Tordah said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
I don't really know how there's a problem that concerns anyone else but A Smith himself and his partner.
Astoundingly, this non-news even made news on Germany's biggest (reputable) online news magazine. And rugby is an absolute non-topic in Germany. Zero interest.
Assume it'll be the Adidas thing?
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I didn't watch One (sorry, "1") News last night because a) I was out, and b) I hardly ever do anyway, but can someone tell me if Simon Dallow used the phrase "it's not a good look'' at some stage during their expose - disabled toilet and all? From the very few times I've watched during a scandal, It's a favourite of his as he rides his trusty steed named Moral High Horse. I get the feeling it's his own editorialising, rather than anything scripted by the journo.
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I don't really know how there's a problem that concerns anyone else but A Smith himself and his partner.
Astoundingly, this non-news even made news on Germany's biggest (reputable) online news magazine. And rugby is an absolute non-topic in Germany. Zero interest.
@Tordah said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
I don't really know how there's a problem that concerns anyone else but A Smith himself and his partner.
Astoundingly, this non-news even made news on Germany's biggest (reputable) online news magazine. And rugby is an absolute non-topic in Germany. Zero interest.
The Germans were probably outraged there was no poo involved, despite it taking place in a toilet.
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I didn't watch One (sorry, "1") News last night because a) I was out, and b) I hardly ever do anyway, but can someone tell me if Simon Dallow used the phrase "it's not a good look'' at some stage during their expose - disabled toilet and all? From the very few times I've watched during a scandal, It's a favourite of his as he rides his trusty steed named Moral High Horse. I get the feeling it's his own editorialising, rather than anything scripted by the journo.
@Smudge yeah I think he did.
Wife was watching breakfast this morning in bed and I could heAR aunt Hilary interviewing some intellectual from Auckland Uni (sounded like he made alot of sense) and he made the comment about in terms of seriousness this is pretty minor, Aunt all but cut him off with 'oh yes of course' before asking something else.
Wonder what old Barna thinks of his old employer and if part of his reasons to leave was he wanted the chance to be a real journalist
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God, I wish this story would just curl up and die. Even mentioning it in the same breath as the Wellington story and and the Chiefs story is revolting - it is not even in the same stratosphere in terms of seriousness.
And yes, the pervert couple better hope they have no skeletons. Because the thing is, Mr. and Mrs. Moral Highground, that if you were truly outraged, you would have dashed out and fetched an airport official. But instead you stayed in the bathroom, WITH SMALL CHILD, and recorded two people having sex in a toilet. That is not outrage. It is voyeurism or worse, preparation for blackmail.
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I didn't watch One (sorry, "1") News last night because a) I was out, and b) I hardly ever do anyway, but can someone tell me if Simon Dallow used the phrase "it's not a good look'' at some stage during their expose - disabled toilet and all? From the very few times I've watched during a scandal, It's a favourite of his as he rides his trusty steed named Moral High Horse. I get the feeling it's his own editorialising, rather than anything scripted by the journo.
@Smudge said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
I didn't watch One (sorry, "1") News last night because a) I was out, and b) I hardly ever do anyway, but can someone tell me if Simon Dallow used the phrase "it's not a good look'' at some stage during their expose - disabled toilet and all? From the very few times I've watched during a scandal, It's a favourite of his as he rides his trusty steed named Moral High Horse. I get the feeling it's his own editorialising, rather than anything scripted by the journo.
Simon Dallow? You mean the guy who turned his wife into a lesbian and then fucked half the blonde dolly birds in the newsroom? Yes, Dallow should editorialise about public figures and their private sex lives.
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@Smudge said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
I didn't watch One (sorry, "1") News last night because a) I was out, and b) I hardly ever do anyway, but can someone tell me if Simon Dallow used the phrase "it's not a good look'' at some stage during their expose - disabled toilet and all? From the very few times I've watched during a scandal, It's a favourite of his as he rides his trusty steed named Moral High Horse. I get the feeling it's his own editorialising, rather than anything scripted by the journo.
Simon Dallow? You mean the guy who turned his wife into a lesbian and then fucked half the blonde dolly birds in the newsroom? Yes, Dallow should editorialise about public figures and their private sex lives.
@Tregaskis said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Smudge said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
I didn't watch One (sorry, "1") News last night because a) I was out, and b) I hardly ever do anyway, but can someone tell me if Simon Dallow used the phrase "it's not a good look'' at some stage during their expose - disabled toilet and all? From the very few times I've watched during a scandal, It's a favourite of his as he rides his trusty steed named Moral High Horse. I get the feeling it's his own editorialising, rather than anything scripted by the journo.
Simon Dallow? You mean the guy who turned his wife into a lesbian and then fucked half the blonde dolly birds in the newsroom? Yes, Dallow should editorialise about public figures and their private sex lives.
It almost reads like you see his behaviour as in some way reprehensible . I always thought he had a rod up his butt now if we ever meet I'll be giving him a high five . Getting a hot lesbian to suppress her sapphic urges long enough to marry and have kids plus nailing half the chicks in your office and keeping your job is legend territory
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Off topic, but it seems related to violence in the context of rugby.
I don't read Spanish, so I've used an online translator; you'll get the meaning of it, even if it's bad English.
Does anyone know why the Argentinian rugby union has published this?
05.10.2016 / Institutional Press the Argentina Rugby Union As is public knowledge, society as a whole is going through a situation of violence and the responsibility, as it is for the educated and civilised behaviour that a person must have for anyone else, we understand, comes from within the home. Rugby, like any other social activity, is not exempt because it is part of society. Put rugby as aggressor or hold him accountable for the behaviour - off-field and outside the context of sport - of some people who have full understanding of their actions and therefore are responsible for them, is reckless and stigmatising. Rugby does not teach anything like that. Quite contrary, it rejects it. For this reason, the UAR condemns with the utmost rigour this and all types of violence of any kind occurring in society, because it is part of it, regardless of whether or involved playing rugby any sport or even without being part of any sport. We insist: The UAR expressed its complete rejection and strongly condemns all these acts that have nothing to do with civilised behaviour of people who intend to live in society. Whether or not that rugby players involved in any reprehensible act is or should be somewhat anecdotal, not central. The real causes have to do with the lack of values in general and education levels a while now. The education of our players comes first from their familial environment and then schools. Rugby, through clubs, is a partner in the training of people. Rugby never get tired of promoting and disclosing all values, we understand, besides rugby should be the whole society as a whole.Original text: http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4977
@Stargazer said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Off topic, but it seems related to violence in the context of rugby.
I don't read Spanish, so I've used an online translator; you'll get the meaning of it, even if it's bad English.
Does anyone know why the Argentinian rugby union has published this?
05.10.2016 / Institutional Press the Argentina Rugby Union As is public knowledge, society as a whole is going through a situation of violence and the responsibility, as it is for the educated and civilised behaviour that a person must have for anyone else, we understand, comes from within the home. Rugby, like any other social activity, is not exempt because it is part of society. Put rugby as aggressor or hold him accountable for the behaviour - off-field and outside the context of sport - of some people who have full understanding of their actions and therefore are responsible for them, is reckless and stigmatising. Rugby does not teach anything like that. Quite contrary, it rejects it. For this reason, the UAR condemns with the utmost rigour this and all types of violence of any kind occurring in society, because it is part of it, regardless of whether or involved playing rugby any sport or even without being part of any sport. We insist: The UAR expressed its complete rejection and strongly condemns all these acts that have nothing to do with civilised behaviour of people who intend to live in society. Whether or not that rugby players involved in any reprehensible act is or should be somewhat anecdotal, not central. The real causes have to do with the lack of values in general and education levels a while now. The education of our players comes first from their familial environment and then schools. Rugby, through clubs, is a partner in the training of people. Rugby never get tired of promoting and disclosing all values, we understand, besides rugby should be the whole society as a whole.Original text: http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4977
Violence? Excuse me? Are on the right thread you dick?
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@Stargazer said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Off topic, but it seems related to violence in the context of rugby.
I don't read Spanish, so I've used an online translator; you'll get the meaning of it, even if it's bad English.
Does anyone know why the Argentinian rugby union has published this?
05.10.2016 / Institutional Press the Argentina Rugby Union As is public knowledge, society as a whole is going through a situation of violence and the responsibility, as it is for the educated and civilised behaviour that a person must have for anyone else, we understand, comes from within the home. Rugby, like any other social activity, is not exempt because it is part of society. Put rugby as aggressor or hold him accountable for the behaviour - off-field and outside the context of sport - of some people who have full understanding of their actions and therefore are responsible for them, is reckless and stigmatising. Rugby does not teach anything like that. Quite contrary, it rejects it. For this reason, the UAR condemns with the utmost rigour this and all types of violence of any kind occurring in society, because it is part of it, regardless of whether or involved playing rugby any sport or even without being part of any sport. We insist: The UAR expressed its complete rejection and strongly condemns all these acts that have nothing to do with civilised behaviour of people who intend to live in society. Whether or not that rugby players involved in any reprehensible act is or should be somewhat anecdotal, not central. The real causes have to do with the lack of values in general and education levels a while now. The education of our players comes first from their familial environment and then schools. Rugby, through clubs, is a partner in the training of people. Rugby never get tired of promoting and disclosing all values, we understand, besides rugby should be the whole society as a whole.Original text: http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4977
Violence? Excuse me? Are on the right thread you dick?
@mariner4life said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Stargazer said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Off topic, but it seems related to violence in the context of rugby.
I don't read Spanish, so I've used an online translator; you'll get the meaning of it, even if it's bad English.
Does anyone know why the Argentinian rugby union has published this?
05.10.2016 / Institutional Press the Argentina Rugby Union As is public knowledge, society as a whole is going through a situation of violence and the responsibility, as it is for the educated and civilised behaviour that a person must have for anyone else, we understand, comes from within the home. Rugby, like any other social activity, is not exempt because it is part of society. Put rugby as aggressor or hold him accountable for the behaviour - off-field and outside the context of sport - of some people who have full understanding of their actions and therefore are responsible for them, is reckless and stigmatising. Rugby does not teach anything like that. Quite contrary, it rejects it. For this reason, the UAR condemns with the utmost rigour this and all types of violence of any kind occurring in society, because it is part of it, regardless of whether or involved playing rugby any sport or even without being part of any sport. We insist: The UAR expressed its complete rejection and strongly condemns all these acts that have nothing to do with civilised behaviour of people who intend to live in society. Whether or not that rugby players involved in any reprehensible act is or should be somewhat anecdotal, not central. The real causes have to do with the lack of values in general and education levels a while now. The education of our players comes first from their familial environment and then schools. Rugby, through clubs, is a partner in the training of people. Rugby never get tired of promoting and disclosing all values, we understand, besides rugby should be the whole society as a whole.Original text: http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4977
Violence? Excuse me? Are on the right thread you dick?
I said it was off topic. It was 1.30am when I posted that and I couldn't be bothered to look for the Losi Filipo thread.
Fortunately, my dick wasn't involved in any of the incidents discussed in this thread or Filipo's. -
@mariner4life said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Stargazer said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Off topic, but it seems related to violence in the context of rugby.
I don't read Spanish, so I've used an online translator; you'll get the meaning of it, even if it's bad English.
Does anyone know why the Argentinian rugby union has published this?
05.10.2016 / Institutional Press the Argentina Rugby Union As is public knowledge, society as a whole is going through a situation of violence and the responsibility, as it is for the educated and civilised behaviour that a person must have for anyone else, we understand, comes from within the home. Rugby, like any other social activity, is not exempt because it is part of society. Put rugby as aggressor or hold him accountable for the behaviour - off-field and outside the context of sport - of some people who have full understanding of their actions and therefore are responsible for them, is reckless and stigmatising. Rugby does not teach anything like that. Quite contrary, it rejects it. For this reason, the UAR condemns with the utmost rigour this and all types of violence of any kind occurring in society, because it is part of it, regardless of whether or involved playing rugby any sport or even without being part of any sport. We insist: The UAR expressed its complete rejection and strongly condemns all these acts that have nothing to do with civilised behaviour of people who intend to live in society. Whether or not that rugby players involved in any reprehensible act is or should be somewhat anecdotal, not central. The real causes have to do with the lack of values in general and education levels a while now. The education of our players comes first from their familial environment and then schools. Rugby, through clubs, is a partner in the training of people. Rugby never get tired of promoting and disclosing all values, we understand, besides rugby should be the whole society as a whole.Original text: http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4977
Violence? Excuse me? Are on the right thread you dick?
I said it was off topic. It was 1.30am when I posted that and I couldn't be bothered to look for the Losi Filipo thread.
Fortunately, my dick wasn't involved in any of the incidents discussed in this thread or Filipo's. -
@mariner4life said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Stargazer said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Off topic, but it seems related to violence in the context of rugby.
I don't read Spanish, so I've used an online translator; you'll get the meaning of it, even if it's bad English.
Does anyone know why the Argentinian rugby union has published this?
05.10.2016 / Institutional Press the Argentina Rugby Union As is public knowledge, society as a whole is going through a situation of violence and the responsibility, as it is for the educated and civilised behaviour that a person must have for anyone else, we understand, comes from within the home. Rugby, like any other social activity, is not exempt because it is part of society. Put rugby as aggressor or hold him accountable for the behaviour - off-field and outside the context of sport - of some people who have full understanding of their actions and therefore are responsible for them, is reckless and stigmatising. Rugby does not teach anything like that. Quite contrary, it rejects it. For this reason, the UAR condemns with the utmost rigour this and all types of violence of any kind occurring in society, because it is part of it, regardless of whether or involved playing rugby any sport or even without being part of any sport. We insist: The UAR expressed its complete rejection and strongly condemns all these acts that have nothing to do with civilised behaviour of people who intend to live in society. Whether or not that rugby players involved in any reprehensible act is or should be somewhat anecdotal, not central. The real causes have to do with the lack of values in general and education levels a while now. The education of our players comes first from their familial environment and then schools. Rugby, through clubs, is a partner in the training of people. Rugby never get tired of promoting and disclosing all values, we understand, besides rugby should be the whole society as a whole.Original text: http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4977
Violence? Excuse me? Are on the right thread you dick?
I said it was off topic. It was 1.30am when I posted that and I couldn't be bothered to look for the Losi Filipo thread.
Fortunately, my dick wasn't involved in any of the incidents discussed in this thread or Filipo's.@Stargazer said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@mariner4life said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Stargazer said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Off topic, but it seems related to violence in the context of rugby.
I don't read Spanish, so I've used an online translator; you'll get the meaning of it, even if it's bad English.
Does anyone know why the Argentinian rugby union has published this?
05.10.2016 / Institutional Press the Argentina Rugby Union As is public knowledge, society as a whole is going through a situation of violence and the responsibility, as it is for the educated and civilised behaviour that a person must have for anyone else, we understand, comes from within the home. Rugby, like any other social activity, is not exempt because it is part of society. Put rugby as aggressor or hold him accountable for the behaviour - off-field and outside the context of sport - of some people who have full understanding of their actions and therefore are responsible for them, is reckless and stigmatising. Rugby does not teach anything like that. Quite contrary, it rejects it. For this reason, the UAR condemns with the utmost rigour this and all types of violence of any kind occurring in society, because it is part of it, regardless of whether or involved playing rugby any sport or even without being part of any sport. We insist: The UAR expressed its complete rejection and strongly condemns all these acts that have nothing to do with civilised behaviour of people who intend to live in society. Whether or not that rugby players involved in any reprehensible act is or should be somewhat anecdotal, not central. The real causes have to do with the lack of values in general and education levels a while now. The education of our players comes first from their familial environment and then schools. Rugby, through clubs, is a partner in the training of people. Rugby never get tired of promoting and disclosing all values, we understand, besides rugby should be the whole society as a whole.Original text: http://www.uar.com.ar/noticias/noticias.asp?idinfo=4977
Violence? Excuse me? Are on the right thread you dick?
I said it was off topic. It was 1.30am when I posted that and I couldn't be bothered to look for the Losi Filipo thread.
Surprisingly lackadaisical attitude from the Thread Hall Monitor.
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Well, I am going to overreact to the overreaction and take the moral high ground over the people on the moral high ground. Shameful display of prudish douchbaggery from a lot of people. The human garbage who recorded it (well said Jegga) needs to be publicly flogged and the people "outraged" need therapy. The mothers who whine, "How am I going to explain this to my kids?", I quote CK Louis, " I don't know, It's your shitty kid. Why is that anyone else's problem?".
I am embarrassed that NZ is acting just like Murica did when Janet's boob fell out. When is consensual sex between adults a social issue?Aaron....you personally fucked up big time, was a bit of an arse to desperate disabled people, and got a few demerit points professionally but that is nothing to do with me. Good luck.
@Samurai-Jack said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Well, I am going to overreact to the overreaction and take the moral high ground over the people on the moral high ground. Shameful display of prudish douchbaggery from a lot of people. The human garbage who recorded it (well said Jegga) needs to be publicly flogged and the people "outraged" need therapy. The mothers who whine, "How am I going to explain this to my kids?", I quote CK Louis, " I don't know, It's your shitty kid. Why is that anyone else's problem?".
I am embarrassed that NZ is acting just like Murica did when Janet's boob fell out. When is consensual sex between adults a social issue?Aaron....you personally fucked up big time, was a bit of an arse to desperate disabled people, and got a few demerit points professionally but that is nothing to do with me. Good luck.
Awesome post.
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@Stargazer so why post it at all?
@mariner4life Because I wanted to know what it was about. I asked a question. Chill.
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@Stargazer said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@taniwharugby said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Stargazer wtf are you on about? did you watch it, no way would anyone recognize her form the image they posted.
You really are a picky little fluffybunny arent you!
Apparently, bolding the word 'him' is too subtle for you?
I meant Smith. He's a man-slut from all I've heard about him over the years.
Dude, the word is "stud".........how can you not know that ? sounds like someone needs a bit of impromptu toilet action.
@MN5 said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Stargazer said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@taniwharugby said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Stargazer wtf are you on about? did you watch it, no way would anyone recognize her form the image they posted.
You really are a picky little fluffybunny arent you!
Apparently, bolding the word 'him' is too subtle for you?
I meant Smith. He's a man-slut from all I've heard about him over the years.
Dude, the word is "stud".........how can you not know that ? sounds like someone needs a bit of impromptu toilet action.
Hey old timer, no-one under 35 uses that word anymore.
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Watching the cringeworthy statement from Smith where he was quite upset (seriously, why did they make him do that?), it reminded me of another world class player that decided to leave NZ because it was too much of a fishbowl: Carl Hayman.
I hope we haven't chased away the best halfback we've had since Bachop because of some click hungry hacks and a couple of perverts who decided to record this incident.
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Watching the cringeworthy statement from Smith where he was quite upset (seriously, why did they make him do that?), it reminded me of another world class player that decided to leave NZ because it was too much of a fishbowl: Carl Hayman.
I hope we haven't chased away the best halfback we've had since Bachop because of some click hungry hacks and a couple of perverts who decided to record this incident.
@Kirwan I bet half our media are already camped out at International arrivals just incase they got the flight time wrong and dont wanna miss the chance of asking him if he regrets it, or has he spoken to his partner or some other fucking ridiculous question.
Need to back off and give the guy time and space to sort it out with his partner, the matter is not a national one, but a private one.
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Watching the cringeworthy statement from Smith where he was quite upset (seriously, why did they make him do that?), it reminded me of another world class player that decided to leave NZ because it was too much of a fishbowl: Carl Hayman.
I hope we haven't chased away the best halfback we've had since Bachop because of some click hungry hacks and a couple of perverts who decided to record this incident.
@Kirwan said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
Watching the cringeworthy statement from Smith where he was quite upset (seriously, why did they make him do that?), it reminded me of another world class player that decided to leave NZ because it was too much of a fishbowl: Carl Hayman.
I hope we haven't chased away the best halfback we've had since Bachop because of some click hungry hacks and a couple of perverts who decided to record this incident.
That tearful apology was just awful. For him, for the AB's, for his friends and family. This is so out of control. The only people he owed an apology to was his girlfriend and the NZRU for being a douchebag when on duty. Everyone else can fuck off. Jesus, the lynch mob have got their pound of flesh for this, it makes me want to punch the recording couple in the face for being the catalyst that inflicted this bullshit on the country.
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@Tregaskis said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
@Smudge said in Aaron Smith naughty boy?:
I didn't watch One (sorry, "1") News last night because a) I was out, and b) I hardly ever do anyway, but can someone tell me if Simon Dallow used the phrase "it's not a good look'' at some stage during their expose - disabled toilet and all? From the very few times I've watched during a scandal, It's a favourite of his as he rides his trusty steed named Moral High Horse. I get the feeling it's his own editorialising, rather than anything scripted by the journo.
Simon Dallow? You mean the guy who turned his wife into a lesbian and then fucked half the blonde dolly birds in the newsroom? Yes, Dallow should editorialise about public figures and their private sex lives.
It almost reads like you see his behaviour as in some way reprehensible . I always thought he had a rod up his butt now if we ever meet I'll be giving him a high five . Getting a hot lesbian to suppress her sapphic urges long enough to marry and have kids plus nailing half the chicks in your office and keeping your job is legend territory
@jegga I hear you - I can confirm that it is first rate behaviour from the Simon Dallow wearing his private citizen hat. But when he says it disapprovingly wearing his broadcaster hat (PS I didn't dare watch the news last night) then nobodies like me can snigger at him and point to his own life, which to me somewhat lessens the criticism of Smith.
10 years ago (or whenever his missus left him) Simon Dallow was a party joke. He was "taunted and booed until my throat is sore" (c) Simpson, H. 1994 - the episode in which Lisa reluctantly plays ice hockey and turns out to be star, and Homer pits her against Bart for his affections.
I suspect in private Dallow's thoughts about the Smith incident were "big fucking deal" or "shit, I remember nailing blondie X in the level three toilet at Friday drinks and it wasn't that comfortable but I got there in the end" or "I hope that viewer Tregaskis doesn't remember some shit about me".
However, he is not allowed to say "Nope boss, I don't want to raise my eyebrows or finish any of Wendy Petrie's paragraphs in this entire segment" because it was the lead-off batter in the "news" last night.
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@jegga I hear you - I can confirm that it is first rate behaviour from the Simon Dallow wearing his private citizen hat. But when he says it disapprovingly wearing his broadcaster hat (PS I didn't dare watch the news last night) then nobodies like me can snigger at him and point to his own life, which to me somewhat lessens the criticism of Smith.
10 years ago (or whenever his missus left him) Simon Dallow was a party joke. He was "taunted and booed until my throat is sore" (c) Simpson, H. 1994 - the episode in which Lisa reluctantly plays ice hockey and turns out to be star, and Homer pits her against Bart for his affections.
I suspect in private Dallow's thoughts about the Smith incident were "big fucking deal" or "shit, I remember nailing blondie X in the level three toilet at Friday drinks and it wasn't that comfortable but I got there in the end" or "I hope that viewer Tregaskis doesn't remember some shit about me".
However, he is not allowed to say "Nope boss, I don't want to raise my eyebrows or finish any of Wendy Petrie's paragraphs in this entire segment" because it was the lead-off batter in the "news" last night.
@Tregaskis well said .
