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    There were stories about Southee replacing Anderson as the England bowling consultant. That seems to have gone quiet.

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    • ChrisC Chris

      @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

      Hesson the new Pakistan coach.

      If he can survive politics and engage them, watch out!

      https://www.wisden.com/cricket-news/renowned-ipl-and-international-coach-to-take-over-pakistan-white-ball-job

      He will be lucky to last a year not because of ability but politics.

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      @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

      @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

      Hesson the new Pakistan coach.

      If he can survive politics and engage them, watch out!

      https://www.wisden.com/cricket-news/renowned-ipl-and-international-coach-to-take-over-pakistan-white-ball-job

      He will be lucky to last a year not because of ability but politics.

      and he's fired

      /jokes 😄

      but seriously, how long will he last? THey chewed up and spat out Gillespie, who was a solid dude. Interesting choice by Hesson

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      • nzzpN nzzp

        @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

        @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

        Hesson the new Pakistan coach.

        If he can survive politics and engage them, watch out!

        https://www.wisden.com/cricket-news/renowned-ipl-and-international-coach-to-take-over-pakistan-white-ball-job

        He will be lucky to last a year not because of ability but politics.

        and he's fired

        /jokes 😄

        but seriously, how long will he last? THey chewed up and spat out Gillespie, who was a solid dude. Interesting choice by Hesson

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        @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

        @Chris said in NZ Cricket:

        @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

        Hesson the new Pakistan coach.

        If he can survive politics and engage them, watch out!

        https://www.wisden.com/cricket-news/renowned-ipl-and-international-coach-to-take-over-pakistan-white-ball-job

        He will be lucky to last a year not because of ability but politics.

        and he's fired

        /jokes 😄

        but seriously, how long will he last? THey chewed up and spat out Gillespie, who was a solid dude. Interesting choice by Hesson

        Pakistani is like India corrupt at the top if he plays the game maybe he can last a couple of years but that is a harsh environment to succeed as a coach, differences of faith, match fixing makes big money for syndicates and you can't say no if you care about your family.

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        • SouthernMannS Offline
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          What we can take from this is that Hess loves money. He will coach the side out of Dunedin. Can't see him spending too long in a country constantly being threatened by nuclear bombs

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          • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

            What we can take from this is that Hess loves money. He will coach the side out of Dunedin. Can't see him spending too long in a country constantly being threatened by nuclear bombs

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            @SouthernMann said in NZ Cricket:

            What we can take from this is that Hess loves money.

            They don't get the India money though (obviously) and aren't (or certainly weren't) super wealthy.

            Remember when Mohammed Asif got pinged for spot fixing at Lords? He was on 35k USD/year as an international bowler. Given that was a fair few years ago, but Pakistan wasn't splashing money around then - no idea how it is now

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            • nzzpN nzzp

              @SouthernMann said in NZ Cricket:

              What we can take from this is that Hess loves money.

              They don't get the India money though (obviously) and aren't (or certainly weren't) super wealthy.

              Remember when Mohammed Asif got pinged for spot fixing at Lords? He was on 35k USD/year as an international bowler. Given that was a fair few years ago, but Pakistan wasn't splashing money around then - no idea how it is now

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              #792

              @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

              @SouthernMann said in NZ Cricket:

              What we can take from this is that Hess loves money.

              They don't get the India money though (obviously) and aren't (or certainly weren't) super wealthy.

              Remember when Mohammed Asif got pinged for spot fixing at Lords? He was on 35k USD/year as an international bowler. Given that was a fair few years ago, but Pakistan wasn't splashing money around then - no idea how it is now

              Better than that now,Pakistan 20/20 comp puts more money in to the local scene.

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              • nzzpN nzzp

                @SouthernMann said in NZ Cricket:

                What we can take from this is that Hess loves money.

                They don't get the India money though (obviously) and aren't (or certainly weren't) super wealthy.

                Remember when Mohammed Asif got pinged for spot fixing at Lords? He was on 35k USD/year as an international bowler. Given that was a fair few years ago, but Pakistan wasn't splashing money around then - no idea how it is now

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                @nzzp said in NZ Cricket:

                @SouthernMann said in NZ Cricket:

                What we can take from this is that Hess loves money.

                They don't get the India money though (obviously) and aren't (or certainly weren't) super wealthy.

                Remember when Mohammed Asif got pinged for spot fixing at Lords? He was on 35k USD/year as an international bowler. Given that was a fair few years ago, but Pakistan wasn't splashing money around then - no idea how it is now

                Seems like they were willing to pay Watson $2mil a year last year.

                Hess will also need to stand down for his Indian roles

                https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.business-standard.com/amp/cricket/news/pakistan-to-pay-highest-ever-salary-to-shane-watson-for-head-coach-role-124031400176_1.html

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                  Looks like there will be a new Black Caps coach and it will either be Shane Bond or Rob Walter. Stead out altogether.

                  Last Men Standing: Blackcaps coaching race down to two as Stead drops out of contention

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                    Looks like there will be a new Black Caps coach and it will either be Shane Bond or Rob Walter. Stead out altogether.

                    Last Men Standing: Blackcaps coaching race down to two as Stead drops out of contention

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                    @1kiwi said in NZ Cricket:

                    Looks like there will be a new Black Caps coach and it will either be Shane Bond or Rob Walter. Stead out altogether.

                    Last Men Standing: Blackcaps coaching race down to two as Stead drops out of contention

                    Two metre Peter will be annoyed, thought he was well in the frame.

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                    • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                      @1kiwi said in NZ Cricket:

                      Looks like there will be a new Black Caps coach and it will either be Shane Bond or Rob Walter. Stead out altogether.

                      Last Men Standing: Blackcaps coaching race down to two as Stead drops out of contention

                      Two metre Peter will be annoyed, thought he was well in the frame.

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                      @Canes4life said in NZ Cricket:

                      @1kiwi said in NZ Cricket:

                      Looks like there will be a new Black Caps coach and it will either be Shane Bond or Rob Walter. Stead out altogether.

                      Last Men Standing: Blackcaps coaching race down to two as Stead drops out of contention

                      Two metre Peter will be annoyed, thought he was well in the frame.

                      You would have thought they would have at least given the guy an interview considering his domestic coaching record?

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                      • MN5M Offline
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                        Go Bondy !

                        Injury prevented him achieving ongoing greatness as a player, lets see if he can do it as a coach.

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                        • CyclopsC Offline
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                          I thought Bond was fantastic during his brief spell as our bowling coach, and he's one of the few commentators that actually come across as having a real deep insight of what's happening rather than reacting after the fact, so I'm hopeful that he'd be a success.

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                            https://www.instagram.com/p/DKavFditChD/?igsh=dmF5ZzFibjJ3cHQ0

                            Henry Nicolls really?

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                              https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/rising-stars-headline-blackcaps-2025-26-central-contracts/

                              Any thoughts on the new players? Mitch Hay, Muhammad Abbas, Zak Foulkes & Adi Ashok

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                                #801

                                It's kind of remarkable that NZC didn't try to line this up with the coaching appointment.

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                                • CyclopsC Cyclops

                                  It's kind of remarkable that NZC didn't try to line this up with the coaching appointment.

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                                  @Cyclops said in NZ Cricket:

                                  It's kind of remarkable that NZC didn't try to line this up with the coaching appointment.

                                  Remarkable? Disappointment more than surprise.

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                                  • DuluthD Duluth

                                    https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/rising-stars-headline-blackcaps-2025-26-central-contracts/

                                    Any thoughts on the new players? Mitch Hay, Muhammad Abbas, Zak Foulkes & Adi Ashok

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                                    @Duluth said in NZ Cricket:

                                    https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/rising-stars-headline-blackcaps-2025-26-central-contracts/

                                    Any thoughts on the new players? Mitch Hay, Muhammad Abbas, Zak Foulkes & Adi Ashok

                                    What gets me is that the incoming coach will be working with players that he has had no say in the selection of in this contract list.

                                    There is also a list of 5 players who received casual contractswhich I'm not sure has been released? From what I understand those players are
                                    Williamson, Conway, Seifert & Allen but I don't know who the other one is.

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                                    • 1kiwi1 1kiwi

                                      @Duluth said in NZ Cricket:

                                      https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/rising-stars-headline-blackcaps-2025-26-central-contracts/

                                      Any thoughts on the new players? Mitch Hay, Muhammad Abbas, Zak Foulkes & Adi Ashok

                                      What gets me is that the incoming coach will be working with players that he has had no say in the selection of in this contract list.

                                      There is also a list of 5 players who received casual contractswhich I'm not sure has been released? From what I understand those players are
                                      Williamson, Conway, Seifert & Allen but I don't know who the other one is.

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                                      @1kiwi said in NZ Cricket:

                                      @Duluth said in NZ Cricket:

                                      https://www.nzc.nz/news-items/rising-stars-headline-blackcaps-2025-26-central-contracts/

                                      Any thoughts on the new players? Mitch Hay, Muhammad Abbas, Zak Foulkes & Adi Ashok

                                      What gets me is that the incoming coach will be working with players that he has had no say in the selection of in this contract list.

                                      There is also a list of 5 players who received casual contractswhich I'm not sure has been released? From what I understand those players are
                                      Williamson, Conway, Seifert & Allen but I don't know who the other one is.

                                      Ferguson

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                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/cricket/black-caps/black-caps-coach-rob-walter-announced-as-new-coach-replaces-gary-stead-in-all-formats/G5UIQCEUMBD4FNWJF2R5CNSRLY/

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                                        • SouthernMannS Offline
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                                          That was guaranteed as soon as he stood down from his SA roles in March/April

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