All Blacks 2025
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Everyone is in the gym though so additional power is coming with additional weight.
That article says Ardie was targeting 106kgs seven years ago and I'd be surprised if he stopped there. But, he's on the short side for a loose forward, so harder for him to effectively carry the same weight on his frame compared with the taller guys.
e.g. Dave Havili said he'd shed a couple of kgs this season and improved his mobility - presumably gone past his "sweet spot" mentioned in Paul's article.
Rieko is listed as 103kg and Savea kinda looks shorter and lighter.
Ioane is a bloody skinny 103kg !!!!
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Everyone is in the gym though so additional power is coming with additional weight.
That article says Ardie was targeting 106kgs seven years ago and I'd be surprised if he stopped there. But, he's on the short side for a loose forward, so harder for him to effectively carry the same weight on his frame compared with the taller guys.
e.g. Dave Havili said he'd shed a couple of kgs this season and improved his mobility - presumably gone past his "sweet spot" mentioned in Paul's article.
Rieko is listed as 103kg and Savea kinda looks shorter and lighter.
Ioane is a bloody skinny 103kg !!!!
His upper body and upper legs look bigger than Ardies to me.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
I'd put Ardie at about 105kg or so, in other words comfortably the lightest All Black forward. An unusual thing to say for a guy very likely to play number 8.
I wonder if/how much Ardie's weight changes when transferring from 8 to 7 and vice versa, or maybe the Super season to test season is a (literally) bigger factor?
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@nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
I'd put Ardie at about 105kg or so, in other words comfortably the lightest All Black forward. An unusual thing to say for a guy very likely to play number 8.
I wonder if/how much Ardie's weight changes when transferring from 8 to 7 and vice versa, or maybe the Super season to test season is a (literally) bigger factor?
He could do the old Glen Osbourne trick and put weights in his pockets when hopping on the scales if need be.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Everyone is in the gym though so additional power is coming with additional weight.
That article says Ardie was targeting 106kgs seven years ago and I'd be surprised if he stopped there. But, he's on the short side for a loose forward, so harder for him to effectively carry the same weight on his frame compared with the taller guys.
e.g. Dave Havili said he'd shed a couple of kgs this season and improved his mobility - presumably gone past his "sweet spot" mentioned in Paul's article.
Rieko is listed as 103kg and Savea kinda looks shorter and lighter.
Ioane is a bloody skinny 103kg !!!!
His upper body and upper legs look bigger than Ardies to me.
I doubt that is a major factor, I think he has longer legs but Ardie would have a bigger and longer torso. If Rieko is 1.89m tall (wiki versus 1.88m Blues official stats), then Ardie looks about 1.87 there and he looked shorter than Wallace to me so I'm guessing that's his height.
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@MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:
He could do the old Glen Osbourne trick and put weights in his pockets when hopping on the scales if need be.
I think he is more solid than he looks. Just not very tall without his early career hairdo.
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@brodean said in All Blacks 2025:
@Chris-B said in All Blacks 2025:
@MN5 Everyone is in the gym though so additional power is coming with additional weight.
That article says Ardie was targeting 106kgs seven years ago and I'd be surprised if he stopped there. But, he's on the short side for a loose forward, so harder for him to effectively carry the same weight on his frame compared with the taller guys.
e.g. Dave Havili said he'd shed a couple of kgs this season and improved his mobility - presumably gone past his "sweet spot" mentioned in Paul's article.
Rieko is listed as 103kg and Savea kinda looks shorter and lighter.
It's the haircut.
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Ardie is pretty slim based on the last time I got to see him up close. And Ioane looks even slimmer this season
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Man this thread seems to go full circle. Once again talking about Ardie's height and weight. Classic stuff.
Well, you're all wrong, Moana has him listed at 1.80m and 85kg. The diet is certainly helping with his performance this year.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
Man this thread seems to go full circle. Once again talking about Ardie's height and weight. Classic stuff.
Well, you're all wrong, Moana has him listed at 1.80m and 85kg. The diet is certainly helping with his performance this year.
It won’t be complete until you talk up Billy Proctor as first choice 13 this year.
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
Man this thread seems to go full circle. Once again talking about Ardie's height and weight. Classic stuff.
Well, you're all wrong, Moana has him listed at 1.80m and 85kg. The diet is certainly helping with his performance this year.
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There's an article from around 2020, where Rieko says he was about 105kgs, but had dropped to 102kg and thought it was helping his mobility, but not sure about winning collisions. Based on that you'd think he'd be minimum 102kgs, but could easily be 4-5kgs more now.
Here it is...
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@Canes4life He's trolling us!
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'New' Rieko Ioane opens up on All Blacks fall from grace