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  • boobooB Offline
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    wrote on last edited by booboo
    #55

    @Dan54 said in School Rugby 2025:

    ambiguity in law?

    No ambiguity in "they must kick at goal".

    There's room for ambiguity around intent, much like a deliberate knock forward but pretty obvious in this case he had no intent.

    Ref got it wrong. Don't blame him, there's a lot of laws to know.

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #56

    they changed the interpretation 25 years ago (or maybe even more) to get rid of this exact play. Terrible reffing, especially with the touchie telling him he can't award it.

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    #57

    @booboo said in School Rugby 2025:

    @gt12 said in School Rugby 2025:

    There are two things happening here:

    • Grubby rugby that shouldn't be part of the game
    • Incompetent referreeing

    I'm going to let them off the "grubby rugby" because kids who didn't know the rules.

    But ref should have disallowed it.

    As it looked like a set play for me, I have a few questions for the coaches.

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  • boobooB Offline
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    #58

    @gt12 said in School Rugby 2025:

    @booboo said in School Rugby 2025:

    @gt12 said in School Rugby 2025:

    There are two things happening here:

    • Grubby rugby that shouldn't be part of the game
    • Incompetent referreeing

    I'm going to let them off the "grubby rugby" because kids who didn't know the rules.

    But ref should have disallowed it.

    As it looked like a set play for me, I have a few questions for the coaches.

    Fair

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  • gt12G Offline
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    replied to booboo on last edited by
    #59

    @booboo said in School Rugby 2025:

    @Dan54 said in School Rugby 2025:

    ambiguity in law?

    No ambiguity in "they must kick at goal".

    There's room for ambiguity around intent, much like a deliberate knock forward but pretty obvious in this case he had no intent.

    Ref got it wrong. Don't blame him, there's a lot of laws to know.

    I find any discussion about ambiguity a bit strange, if you think about how clearly this law is written, and how often refs make much stronger judgments about player actions and intent. The whole game is based on ref interpretations and this is one of the absolute easiest. Just incompetent.

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    Mr Fish
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    #60

    I'm a big believer that the rules are too complex and need to be simplified, and that referees are on a hiding to nothing.

    But this law is not complicated, it's been very clear for a long time, and I question the rugby nous of any referee who doesn't understand it.

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #61

    As this was a Ta$man derby the ref was from the region. He was very strict on high tackles and dished out YCs to both teams for tackles above the sternum (his words). There were also YCs for repeated offside infringements near the goal line, so he was more on the side of officious than not. Ironic.

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    #62

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  • TimT Away
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    #63
    New Zealand

    Watch: Hooded man storms field, punches player in schoolboy rugby game

    Watch: Hooded man storms field, punches player in schoolboy rugby game

    Police say the behaviour is not acceptable and they are making inquiries.

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    Dolamite
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    #64

    @Tim I was wondering why the stream of this game wasn’t on the Whakaata Maori YouTube page, they must have taken it down because of this

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #65

    Games played Thu, Fri and Sat.

    Super 8
    Rotorua BHS 14-29 Tauranga BC
    Hastings BHS 19-33 Palmerston North BHS
    Gisborne BHS 13-7 Napier BHS

    CNI
    Lindisfarne College 65-5 St John’s Hastings
    St Peter’s Cambridge 19-14 St Paul’s Collegiate
    Wesley College 26-22 St John’s Hamilton

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    #66

    Midweek games:

    Super 8 (Tuesday)
    Hamilton BHS 49 - 15 New Plymouth BHS

    CNI (Wednesday)
    FDMC 13 - 10 Whanganui Collegiate

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    DurryMexted
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    #67

    Wow scots college having to default their game. Must not be able to pull in the scholarship players anymore with the new rules. Used to joke they had the million dollar backline when i was at school

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    replied to DurryMexted on last edited by Canes4life
    #68

    @DurryMexted said in School Rugby 2025:

    Wow scots college having to default their game. Must not be able to pull in the scholarship players anymore with the new rules. Used to joke they had the million dollar backline when i was at school

    I remember when they had both Umaga-Jensen bros, Connor Garden-Bachop, TJ Va'a and Malo Tuitama in their backline, plus Alex Fidow up front. I think they drew the national title that year.

    I wonder also if them becoming a co-ed school may have impacted proceedings somewhat?

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    #69

    @DurryMexted said in School Rugby 2025:

    Wow scots college having to default their game.

    Is that due to not having front row reserves - again?

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    #70

    @Bovidae Article says they havent formally said why, but that is the assumption

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    #71

    Super 8

    Gisborne BHS 12-43 Rotorua BHS
    New Ply BHS 19-40 Tauranga BC
    Palmy BHS 21-19 Hamilton BHS
    Napier BHS. 17-35 Hastings BHS

    Palmy looks like the team to beat this year and the good guys won the game that mattered the most this weekend 😉

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
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    @Nepia said in School Rugby 2025:

    Palmy looks like the team to beat this year and the good guys won the game that mattered the most this weekend 😉

    TBC is probably still the team to beat and Palmy plays them away.

    CNI
    St John’s Hastings 5–57 St Paul’s Collegiate
    St Peter’s Cambridge 50–27 FDMC
    St John’s Hamilton 12-26 Feilding High School

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  • BovidaeB Offline
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    Bovidae
    wrote on last edited by
    #73

    More controversy.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360720750/eligibility-row-erupts-over-five-year-14s-controversial-marlborough-boys-college-first-xv

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  • mariner4lifeM Offline
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    #74

    Typical cheating Ta$man

    (this happened in the 90s FFS)

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