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School Rugby 2025

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  • boobooB booboo

    @gt12 said in School Rugby 2025:

    There are two things happening here:

    • Grubby rugby that shouldn't be part of the game
    • Incompetent referreeing

    I'm going to let them off the "grubby rugby" because kids who didn't know the rules.

    But ref should have disallowed it.

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    @booboo said in School Rugby 2025:

    @gt12 said in School Rugby 2025:

    There are two things happening here:

    • Grubby rugby that shouldn't be part of the game
    • Incompetent referreeing

    I'm going to let them off the "grubby rugby" because kids who didn't know the rules.

    But ref should have disallowed it.

    As it looked like a set play for me, I have a few questions for the coaches.

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    • gt12G gt12

      @booboo said in School Rugby 2025:

      @gt12 said in School Rugby 2025:

      There are two things happening here:

      • Grubby rugby that shouldn't be part of the game
      • Incompetent referreeing

      I'm going to let them off the "grubby rugby" because kids who didn't know the rules.

      But ref should have disallowed it.

      As it looked like a set play for me, I have a few questions for the coaches.

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      @gt12 said in School Rugby 2025:

      @booboo said in School Rugby 2025:

      @gt12 said in School Rugby 2025:

      There are two things happening here:

      • Grubby rugby that shouldn't be part of the game
      • Incompetent referreeing

      I'm going to let them off the "grubby rugby" because kids who didn't know the rules.

      But ref should have disallowed it.

      As it looked like a set play for me, I have a few questions for the coaches.

      Fair

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      • boobooB booboo

        @Dan54 said in School Rugby 2025:

        ambiguity in law?

        No ambiguity in "they must kick at goal".

        There's room for ambiguity around intent, much like a deliberate knock forward but pretty obvious in this case he had no intent.

        Ref got it wrong. Don't blame him, there's a lot of laws to know.

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        @booboo said in School Rugby 2025:

        @Dan54 said in School Rugby 2025:

        ambiguity in law?

        No ambiguity in "they must kick at goal".

        There's room for ambiguity around intent, much like a deliberate knock forward but pretty obvious in this case he had no intent.

        Ref got it wrong. Don't blame him, there's a lot of laws to know.

        I find any discussion about ambiguity a bit strange, if you think about how clearly this law is written, and how often refs make much stronger judgments about player actions and intent. The whole game is based on ref interpretations and this is one of the absolute easiest. Just incompetent.

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          Mr Fish
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          #60

          I'm a big believer that the rules are too complex and need to be simplified, and that referees are on a hiding to nothing.

          But this law is not complicated, it's been very clear for a long time, and I question the rugby nous of any referee who doesn't understand it.

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            Bovidae
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            As this was a Ta$man derby the ref was from the region. He was very strict on high tackles and dished out YCs to both teams for tackles above the sternum (his words). There were also YCs for repeated offside infringements near the goal line, so he was more on the side of officious than not. Ironic.

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                https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/hooded-man-storms-field-punches-player-in-schoolboy-rugby-game-between-gisborne-and-napier-boys-high/JFOOVTP255APTLV3UOH57N6VYI/

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                  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/hooded-man-storms-field-punches-player-in-schoolboy-rugby-game-between-gisborne-and-napier-boys-high/JFOOVTP255APTLV3UOH57N6VYI/

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                  @Tim I was wondering why the stream of this game wasn’t on the Whakaata Maori YouTube page, they must have taken it down because of this

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                    Games played Thu, Fri and Sat.

                    Super 8
                    Rotorua BHS 14-29 Tauranga BC
                    Hastings BHS 19-33 Palmerston North BHS
                    Gisborne BHS 13-7 Napier BHS

                    CNI
                    Lindisfarne College 65-5 St John’s Hastings
                    St Peter’s Cambridge 19-14 St Paul’s Collegiate
                    Wesley College 26-22 St John’s Hamilton

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                      Bovidae
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                      Midweek games:

                      Super 8 (Tuesday)
                      Hamilton BHS 49 - 15 New Plymouth BHS

                      CNI (Wednesday)
                      FDMC 13 - 10 Whanganui Collegiate

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                        DurryMexted
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                        Wow scots college having to default their game. Must not be able to pull in the scholarship players anymore with the new rules. Used to joke they had the million dollar backline when i was at school

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                        • D DurryMexted

                          Wow scots college having to default their game. Must not be able to pull in the scholarship players anymore with the new rules. Used to joke they had the million dollar backline when i was at school

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                          @DurryMexted said in School Rugby 2025:

                          Wow scots college having to default their game. Must not be able to pull in the scholarship players anymore with the new rules. Used to joke they had the million dollar backline when i was at school

                          I remember when they had both Umaga-Jensen bros, Connor Garden-Bachop, TJ Va'a and Malo Tuitama in their backline, plus Alex Fidow up front. I think they drew the national title that year.

                          I wonder also if them becoming a co-ed school may have impacted proceedings somewhat?

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                          • D DurryMexted

                            Wow scots college having to default their game. Must not be able to pull in the scholarship players anymore with the new rules. Used to joke they had the million dollar backline when i was at school

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                            @DurryMexted said in School Rugby 2025:

                            Wow scots college having to default their game.

                            Is that due to not having front row reserves - again?

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                            • BovidaeB Bovidae

                              @DurryMexted said in School Rugby 2025:

                              Wow scots college having to default their game.

                              Is that due to not having front row reserves - again?

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                              @Bovidae Article says they havent formally said why, but that is the assumption

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                                Super 8

                                Gisborne BHS 12-43 Rotorua BHS
                                New Ply BHS 19-40 Tauranga BC
                                Palmy BHS 21-19 Hamilton BHS
                                Napier BHS. 17-35 Hastings BHS

                                Palmy looks like the team to beat this year and the good guys won the game that mattered the most this weekend 😉

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                                • NepiaN Nepia

                                  Super 8

                                  Gisborne BHS 12-43 Rotorua BHS
                                  New Ply BHS 19-40 Tauranga BC
                                  Palmy BHS 21-19 Hamilton BHS
                                  Napier BHS. 17-35 Hastings BHS

                                  Palmy looks like the team to beat this year and the good guys won the game that mattered the most this weekend 😉

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                                  @Nepia said in School Rugby 2025:

                                  Palmy looks like the team to beat this year and the good guys won the game that mattered the most this weekend 😉

                                  TBC is probably still the team to beat and Palmy plays them away.

                                  CNI
                                  St John’s Hastings 5–57 St Paul’s Collegiate
                                  St Peter’s Cambridge 50–27 FDMC
                                  St John’s Hamilton 12-26 Feilding High School

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                                    Bovidae
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                                    More controversy.

                                    https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360720750/eligibility-row-erupts-over-five-year-14s-controversial-marlborough-boys-college-first-xv

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                                      mariner4life
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                                      Typical cheating Ta$man

                                      (this happened in the 90s FFS)

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                                        taniwharugby
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                                        what age are the kids though? I stayed at school after 7th form to play Rugby & Golf for the school, but was still only 17 for half the year.

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                                        • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                                          what age are the kids though? I stayed at school after 7th form to play Rugby & Golf for the school, but was still only 17 for half the year.

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                                          @taniwharugby said in School Rugby 2025:

                                          what age are the kids though? I stayed at school after 7th form to play Rugby & Golf for the school, but was still only 17 for half the year.

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