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2025 All Blacks v France series

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    Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

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      @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

      a least one YC a team one? might have been two

      Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

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      @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

      @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

      a least one YC a team one? might have been two

      Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

      The comment was made above that he got three YCS in the autumn series. The original YC he received in this game was for an off the ball tackle, but they then found the below and the YC was changed to a head high tackle. So two YCs in the same game.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/rugbyunion/comments/1gi91zd/anton_lienertbrown_hit_on_theo_dan/

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      • B brodean

        Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

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        @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

        Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

        So as soon as someone falls off the tackle, it's not considered for gainline?

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        • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

          @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

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          @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

          @brodean Thanks - are Jordie's stats from URC?

          And Leicester and Tua...

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            @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

            So as soon as someone falls off the tackle, it's not considered for gainline?

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            @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            Well those opta stats don't include line breaks.

            So as soon as someone falls off the tackle, it's not considered for gainline?

            It's not the percentage made over the gain line.

            It's the percentage of times you make it over the gainline when you carry.

            So if AJ Lam makes 100 carries then 79 of them will make it over the gain line.

            When Jordie Barrett makes 100 carries then 54 of them will make it over the gain line.

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            • gt12G gt12

              @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

              a least one YC a team one? might have been two

              Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

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              @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

              @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

              a least one YC a team one? might have been two

              Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

              Didn’t he actually get two yellow card offences in the same passage of play?

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                @gt12 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                @ploughboy said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                a least one YC a team one? might have been two

                Against England it was a tackle off the ball I’m pretty sure, just stupid from someone who should know better (and we’d already had a penalty against us).

                Didn’t he actually get two yellow card offences in the same passage of play?

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                @Jet

                Its the fern and all, but 5 posts up bro ⬆️

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                  When is the squad announced?

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                  • antipodeanA antipodean

                    When is the squad announced?

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                    @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                    When is the squad announced?

                    About 6 weeks too late

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                      PROPS:
                      Tamaiti Williams (Crusaders)
                      Ethan de Groot (Highlanders)
                      Josh Fusitu'a (Blues)
                      Tyrel Lomax (Hurricanes)
                      Fletcher Newell (Crusaders)
                      Pasilio Tosi (Hurricanes)

                      HOOKERS:
                      Codie Taylor (Crusaders)
                      Samisoni Taukei'aho (Chiefs)
                      George Bell (Crusaders)

                      LOCKS:
                      Scott Barrett (c) (Crusaders)
                      Tupou Vaa'i (Chiefs)
                      Patrick Tuipulotu (Blues)
                      Fabian Holland (Highlanders)

                      LOOSE FORWARDS:
                      Ethan Blackadder (Crusaders)
                      Samipeni Finau (Chiefs)
                      Ardie Savea (Moana Pasifika)
                      Peter Lakai (Hurricanes)
                      Dalton Papalii (Blues)
                      Wallace Sititi (Chiefs)
                      Luke Jacobson (Chiefs)

                      HALFBACKS:
                      Cameron Roigard (Hurricanes)
                      Cortez Ratima (Chiefs)
                      Noah Hotham (Crusaders)

                      FIRST FIVES:
                      Damian McKenzie (Chiefs)
                      Beauden Barrett (Blues)

                      MIDFIELDERS:
                      Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)
                      Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                      Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                      Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                      David Havili (Crusaders)

                      OUTSIDE BACKS:
                      Caleb Clarke (Blues)
                      Emoni Narawa (Chiefs)
                      Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
                      Will Jordan (Crusaders)
                      Ruben Love (Hurricanes)

                      Unavailable due to injury: Asafo Aumua (Hurricanes), Simon Parker (Chiefs), Anton Lienert-Brown (Chiefs)

                      Personally I'd have Ollie Norris ahead of Fusitu'a but the signs are there that the latter is getting the nod. Would also have Brodie McAlister ahead of Bell.

                      I think if the Maori All Blacks weren't playing then Rivez Reihana would be in this squad at the expense of David Havili. If I were in charge of selecting I'd also go for Folau Fakatava ahead of Hotham for much the same reason.

                      I can see Jacob Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens, Reihana and a fit Simon Parker and Caleb Tangitau all playing a role on the EOYT.

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                        Louis Bielle-Biarrey is out of the Top 14 Semi Final with concussion. Will that make the World's best winger available for forthcoming French tour to New Zealand?

                        https://twitter.com/CanalplusRugby/status/1934983312260432313

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                          Louis Bielle-Biarrey is out of the Top 14 Semi Final with concussion. Will that make the World's best winger available for forthcoming French tour to New Zealand?

                          https://twitter.com/CanalplusRugby/status/1934983312260432313

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                          @sparky said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                          Louis Bielle-Biarrey is out of the Top 14 Semi Final with concussion. Will that make the World's best winger available for forthcoming French tour to New Zealand?

                          https://twitter.com/CanalplusRugby/status/1934983312260432313

                          Unlikely, given UBB will probably still make the final and LBB has played considerable minutes already this year.

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                            @sparky said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            Louis Bielle-Biarrey is out of the Top 14 Semi Final with concussion. Will that make the World's best winger available for forthcoming French tour to New Zealand?

                            https://twitter.com/CanalplusRugby/status/1934983312260432313

                            Unlikely, given UBB will probably still make the final and LBB has played considerable minutes already this year.

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                            @Mr-Fish Beware French trickery! 😉

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                              When is the squad announced?

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                              @antipodean said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              When is the squad announced?

                              Monday 23rd, next week.

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                                A back-three rota of Love, Jordan, JRK, Tangitau, Clarke (back in form) and Narawa going into the World Cup would be best in class. Reihana can push McKenzie for the 10 jersey leaving Barrett to set a new point-scoring record against Hong Kong in the pool stages.

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                  But it's not. And he won't.

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                                  @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                  As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                  But it's not. And he won't.

                                  matching players skill sets to a game plan?....you're weird dude

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                                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                    As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                    But it's not. And he won't.

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                                    @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                    As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                    But it's not. And he won't.

                                    The last time we played a successful wide game was when we had the ALB/Crotty/SBW trio mixing it up as midfield starters with Ioane on the wing.

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                                      @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                      As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                      But it's not. And he won't.

                                      The last time we played a successful wide game was when we had the ALB/Crotty/SBW trio mixing it up as midfield starters with Ioane on the wing.

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                                      @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                      @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                      As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                      But it's not. And he won't.

                                      The last time we played a successful wide game was when we had the ALB/Crotty/SBW trio mixing it up as midfield starters with Ioane on the wing.

                                      And how many RWCs did those guys win together?

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                                        @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                        But it's not. And he won't.

                                        The last time we played a successful wide game was when we had the ALB/Crotty/SBW trio mixing it up as midfield starters with Ioane on the wing.

                                        And how many RWCs did those guys win together?

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                                        @canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                        But it's not. And he won't.

                                        The last time we played a successful wide game was when we had the ALB/Crotty/SBW trio mixing it up as midfield starters with Ioane on the wing.

                                        And how many RWCs did those guys win together?

                                        yeah perfect metric.

                                        How many did Cullen, Wilson, lomu, Bunce, Little, etc win again?

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                                        • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                          @canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                          But it's not. And he won't.

                                          The last time we played a successful wide game was when we had the ALB/Crotty/SBW trio mixing it up as midfield starters with Ioane on the wing.

                                          And how many RWCs did those guys win together?

                                          yeah perfect metric.

                                          How many did Cullen, Wilson, lomu, Bunce, Little, etc win again?

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                                          @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          @canefan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          As someone mentioned earlier, if our game plan really is supposed to be a wide game spreading thr ball to the edges, then ALB should be thr first midfielder picked.

                                          But it's not. And he won't.

                                          The last time we played a successful wide game was when we had the ALB/Crotty/SBW trio mixing it up as midfield starters with Ioane on the wing.

                                          And how many RWCs did those guys win together?

                                          yeah perfect metric.

                                          How many did Cullen, Wilson, lomu, Bunce, Little, etc win again?

                                          Good point. Mine was much clumsier. The wide game plan is flawed. We need a blend of up the guts power rugby before we feed the backs

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