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All Blacks 2025

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  • J Jet

    Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens as a bolter?

    I think he would be in the picture had he not been injured by that dog act from a grub at the end of last season.

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    @Jet said in All Blacks 2025:

    Ratumaitavuki-Kneepkens as a bolter?

    I think he would be in the picture had he not been injured by that dog act from a grub at the end of last season.

    Im not saying I can walk on water, but I am bigger than Jesus Christ.

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      All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
      Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
      Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
      Forgot Kirifi too

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      @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

      All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
      Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
      Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
      Forgot Kirifi too

      That sounds encouraging…!

      I really hope that Razor backs himself and becomes the AB coach everyone thought he would be.

      He was too conservative last year and looked a bit overawed at times.

      This AB group has the potential to become a great AB side imo.

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      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

        @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Canes4life never talked about those two. But pretty sure they’re in. Heard there’s a few players covering injury. Bell is one of them.
        Sotutu v CLW will be interesting. I thought they’d cut Hoskins all together. Obviously he’s improved on whatever they were looking for.

        I wonder if he took a knock in that game, didn't look like himself.

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        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

        @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Canes4life never talked about those two. But pretty sure they’re in. Heard there’s a few players covering injury. Bell is one of them.
        Sotutu v CLW will be interesting. I thought they’d cut Hoskins all together. Obviously he’s improved on whatever they were looking for.

        I wonder if he took a knock in that game, didn't look like himself.

        He did, head clash with Ennor wasn't it, but not.taken off for HIA.

        Bug bear of mine.

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          Can't see any situation where Tavatavanawai makes the team, to be honest. He's not fast enough to be an international wing and Barrett and Tupaea will both be ahead of him at 12. There's Havili too, a favourite of Razor's. I think it's a pipe dream.

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            Can't see any situation where Tavatavanawai makes the team, to be honest. He's not fast enough to be an international wing and Barrett and Tupaea will both be ahead of him at 12. There's Havili too, a favourite of Razor's. I think it's a pipe dream.

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            chchfanatic
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            @Mr-Fish apparently they are naming a few for injury cover. He may well be one of those.
            Great super rugby season. But can he step up to test footy. Hard to leave out.
            DH has been quality for the crusaders this year.

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              For me, neither Jim nor Havili is a contender for a starting spot. Havili isn't as good as Barrett or Tupaea, and Jim would represent too drastic a change in style for Robertson, based on how conservative he was last year.
              If I'm right in that, then for me at least Jim would have the inside running over Dave as he has far more potential as an impact player - if you're chasing a game or desperately defending a lead, which one do you want coming off the bench?

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                So based on some of the rumours circling, this is where I feel the squad is at for next week, a few positions still up in the air.

                PROPS:

                • Tyrel Lomax (Hurricanes)
                • Fletcher Newell (Crusaders)
                • Pasilio Tosi (Hurricanes)
                • Tamaiti Williams (Crusaders)
                • Josh Fusitua (Blues)
                • Ethan De Groot (Highlanders)

                HOOKERS:

                • Asafo Aumua (Hurricanes) / George Bell - injury cover (Crusaders)
                • Samisoni Taukei'aho (Chiefs)
                • Codie Taylor (Crusaders)

                LOCKS:

                • Tupou Va'ai (Chiefs)
                • Fabian Holland (Highlanders)
                • Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
                • Patrick Tuipolotu (Blues)

                LOOSE FORWARDS:

                • Peter Lakai (Hurricanes)
                • Ardie Savea (Moana Pasifika)
                • Dalton Papali'i (Blues)
                • Luke Jacobsen (Chiefs)/Lio-Willie (Crusaders)/Hoskins Sotutu (Blues)
                • Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes)
                • Samipeni Finau (Chiefs)
                • Wallace Sititi (Chiefs)

                HALFBACKS:

                • Cam Roigard (Hurricanes)
                • Cortez Ratima (Chiefs)
                • Noah Hotham (Crusaders)

                FIRST FIVES:

                • Beauden Barrett (Blues)
                • Damian McKenzie (Chiefs)

                CENTRES:

                • David Havili (Crusaders)
                • Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                • Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                • Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)

                CENTRE/WING

                • Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                • Timoci Tavatavanawai (Highlanders)

                OUTSIDES:

                • Ruben Love (Hurricanes)
                • Will Jordan (Crusaders)
                • Caleb Clarke (Blues)
                • Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
                • Emoni Narawa (Chiefs)
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                • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                  So based on some of the rumours circling, this is where I feel the squad is at for next week, a few positions still up in the air.

                  PROPS:

                  • Tyrel Lomax (Hurricanes)
                  • Fletcher Newell (Crusaders)
                  • Pasilio Tosi (Hurricanes)
                  • Tamaiti Williams (Crusaders)
                  • Josh Fusitua (Blues)
                  • Ethan De Groot (Highlanders)

                  HOOKERS:

                  • Asafo Aumua (Hurricanes) / George Bell - injury cover (Crusaders)
                  • Samisoni Taukei'aho (Chiefs)
                  • Codie Taylor (Crusaders)

                  LOCKS:

                  • Tupou Va'ai (Chiefs)
                  • Fabian Holland (Highlanders)
                  • Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
                  • Patrick Tuipolotu (Blues)

                  LOOSE FORWARDS:

                  • Peter Lakai (Hurricanes)
                  • Ardie Savea (Moana Pasifika)
                  • Dalton Papali'i (Blues)
                  • Luke Jacobsen (Chiefs)/Lio-Willie (Crusaders)/Hoskins Sotutu (Blues)
                  • Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes)
                  • Samipeni Finau (Chiefs)
                  • Wallace Sititi (Chiefs)

                  HALFBACKS:

                  • Cam Roigard (Hurricanes)
                  • Cortez Ratima (Chiefs)
                  • Noah Hotham (Crusaders)

                  FIRST FIVES:

                  • Beauden Barrett (Blues)
                  • Damian McKenzie (Chiefs)

                  CENTRES:

                  • David Havili (Crusaders)
                  • Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                  • Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                  • Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)

                  CENTRE/WING

                  • Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                  • Timoci Tavatavanawai (Highlanders)

                  OUTSIDES:

                  • Ruben Love (Hurricanes)
                  • Will Jordan (Crusaders)
                  • Caleb Clarke (Blues)
                  • Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
                  • Emoni Narawa (Chiefs)
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                  @Canes4life I think you need to lose a back.

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                  • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                    So based on some of the rumours circling, this is where I feel the squad is at for next week, a few positions still up in the air.

                    PROPS:

                    • Tyrel Lomax (Hurricanes)
                    • Fletcher Newell (Crusaders)
                    • Pasilio Tosi (Hurricanes)
                    • Tamaiti Williams (Crusaders)
                    • Josh Fusitua (Blues)
                    • Ethan De Groot (Highlanders)

                    HOOKERS:

                    • Asafo Aumua (Hurricanes) / George Bell - injury cover (Crusaders)
                    • Samisoni Taukei'aho (Chiefs)
                    • Codie Taylor (Crusaders)

                    LOCKS:

                    • Tupou Va'ai (Chiefs)
                    • Fabian Holland (Highlanders)
                    • Scott Barrett (Crusaders)
                    • Patrick Tuipolotu (Blues)

                    LOOSE FORWARDS:

                    • Peter Lakai (Hurricanes)
                    • Ardie Savea (Moana Pasifika)
                    • Dalton Papali'i (Blues)
                    • Luke Jacobsen (Chiefs)/Lio-Willie (Crusaders)/Hoskins Sotutu (Blues)
                    • Du Plessis Kirifi (Hurricanes)
                    • Samipeni Finau (Chiefs)
                    • Wallace Sititi (Chiefs)

                    HALFBACKS:

                    • Cam Roigard (Hurricanes)
                    • Cortez Ratima (Chiefs)
                    • Noah Hotham (Crusaders)

                    FIRST FIVES:

                    • Beauden Barrett (Blues)
                    • Damian McKenzie (Chiefs)

                    CENTRES:

                    • David Havili (Crusaders)
                    • Quinn Tupaea (Chiefs)
                    • Billy Proctor (Hurricanes)
                    • Jordie Barrett (Hurricanes)

                    CENTRE/WING

                    • Rieko Ioane (Blues)
                    • Timoci Tavatavanawai (Highlanders)

                    OUTSIDES:

                    • Ruben Love (Hurricanes)
                    • Will Jordan (Crusaders)
                    • Caleb Clarke (Blues)
                    • Sevu Reece (Crusaders)
                    • Emoni Narawa (Chiefs)
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                    brodean
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                    #3614

                    @Canes4life

                    Is this based on Silverfern rumours?

                    No Blackadder?

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                      @Canes4life I think you need to lose a back.

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                      @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @Canes4life I think you need to lose a back.

                      Hmmm, you're right, Havili, Tavatavanawai and Tupaea are probably vying for two spots. One of them will likely miss out.

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                        @Canes4life

                        Is this based on Silverfern rumours?

                        No Blackadder?

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                        @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @Canes4life

                        Is this based on Silverfern rumours?

                        No Blackadder?

                        see above

                        @chchfanatic said in All Blacks 2025:

                        All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
                        Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
                        Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
                        Forgot Kirifi too

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                          @Canes4life

                          Is this based on Silverfern rumours?

                          No Blackadder?

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                          @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                          @Canes4life

                          Is this based on Silverfern rumours?

                          No Blackadder?

                          Yep, rumours are he's missing out. But nothing set in stone yet.

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                            Unless he's signed an overseas contract I'd be flabbergasted if it's not baseless.

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                              @pakman said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @Canes4life I think you need to lose a back.

                              Hmmm, you're right, Havili, Tavatavanawai and Tupaea are probably vying for two spots. One of them will likely miss out.

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                              @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Tavatavanawai

                              Tavatavanawai maybe injury cover for ALB.

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                                @Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Tavatavanawai

                                Tavatavanawai maybe injury cover for ALB.

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                                @Chris Was just going to post same.

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                                  I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.

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                                    I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.

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                                    @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.

                                    Very close if @chchfanatic is telling me I am believing it.

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                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.

                                      Very close if @chchfanatic is telling me I am believing it.

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                                      @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      I can't picture a situation where a fit Blackadder misses out on selection. With three 12 options and two 13 options available even with ALB injured, I don't see why Tavatavanawai would be needed as injury cover either. Unless it was coming straight from the top, I'm not sure how someone would learn that Ioane was being considered as a wing either. Would love to know how close to the team your source is @chchfanatic.

                                      Very close if @chchfanatic is telling me I am believing it.

                                      Yeah he's usually bang on when he posts runours.

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                                        I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.

                                        Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.

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                                          I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.

                                          Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.

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                                          reprobate
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                                          @Mr-Fish said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          I know chchfanatic is normally right on the money but three weeks ago he said Hoskins Sotutu was never in the selection frame and now he's on the cusp despite not exactly having a glorious last few games.

                                          Will absolutely graciously take the L if it's all proven correct in a week! Just hard to envisage.

                                          One bad game. The week before he was bloody MOTM.

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