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  • ChrisC Chris

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    Interestingly, we've had talk about the coaches saying that CLW is too small (@Chris ?) but here the guy was saying that the coaches love him and thinks he'll be picked if he plays well this weekend.

    Not sure what you are asking I never said that he was too small or the coaches said that.?

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    @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

    Interestingly, we've had talk about the coaches saying that CLW is too small (@Chris ?) but here the guy was saying that the coaches love him and thinks he'll be picked if he plays well this weekend.

    Not sure what you are asking I never said that he was too small or the coaches said that.?

    Might not be you, but someone has said that they heard from others that the coaches think he is too small

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      @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

      Interestingly, we've had talk about the coaches saying that CLW is too small (@Chris ?) but here the guy was saying that the coaches love him and thinks he'll be picked if he plays well this weekend.

      Not sure what you are asking I never said that he was too small or the coaches said that.?

      Might not be you, but someone has said that they heard from others that the coaches think he is too small

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      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

      @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

      Interestingly, we've had talk about the coaches saying that CLW is too small (@Chris ?) but here the guy was saying that the coaches love him and thinks he'll be picked if he plays well this weekend.

      Not sure what you are asking I never said that he was too small or the coaches said that.?

      Might not be you, but someone has said that they heard from others that the coaches think he is too small

      Nah not me.

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      • ChrisC Chris

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

        Interestingly, we've had talk about the coaches saying that CLW is too small (@Chris ?) but here the guy was saying that the coaches love him and thinks he'll be picked if he plays well this weekend.

        Not sure what you are asking I never said that he was too small or the coaches said that.?

        Might not be you, but someone has said that they heard from others that the coaches think he is too small

        Nah not me.

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        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

        @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

        Interestingly, we've had talk about the coaches saying that CLW is too small (@Chris ?) but here the guy was saying that the coaches love him and thinks he'll be picked if he plays well this weekend.

        Not sure what you are asking I never said that he was too small or the coaches said that.?

        Might not be you, but someone has said that they heard from others that the coaches think he is too small

        Nah not me.

        Apologies, it was @Mr-Fish

        https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/7083/all-blacks-2025/3338?_=1750308026841

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          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

          Discussion of Kirifi ahead of Papalii, suggesting that Paps may have reached his peak and they want to see someone else (is @chchfanatic actually Lashes?)

          In this part, btw, it did seem that this was his analysis and not necessarily sauce.

          Papali'i's problem is he doesn't have a natural position so he just ends up being another of these hybrid loosies

          Throw in how Papalii pretty much got dropped for the second half of the last test season and it makes sense.

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          @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

          @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

          Discussion of Kirifi ahead of Papalii, suggesting that Paps may have reached his peak and they want to see someone else (is @chchfanatic actually Lashes?)

          In this part, btw, it did seem that this was his analysis and not necessarily sauce.

          Papali'i's problem is he doesn't have a natural position so he just ends up being another of these hybrid loosies

          Throw in how Papalii pretty much got dropped for the second half of the last test season and it makes sense.

          He should focus on blindside, I reckon he'd go best there with his skillset.

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            @KiwiMurph think , we've got to take a step back , this lashes guy, is involved with the Barretts, maybe, and , he bit of a , let's see guy.

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            @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

            @KiwiMurph think , we've got to take a step back , this lashes guy, is involved with the Barretts

            No idea what show you are referring to, but Is that the brother-in-law?

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            • BovidaeB Bovidae

              @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

              @KiwiMurph think , we've got to take a step back , this lashes guy, is involved with the Barretts

              No idea what show you are referring to, but Is that the brother-in-law?

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              @Bovidae SportNation, so Dalton is included.

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              • BovidaeB Bovidae

                @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @KiwiMurph think , we've got to take a step back , this lashes guy, is involved with the Barretts

                No idea what show you are referring to, but Is that the brother-in-law?

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                @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                @KiwiMurph think , we've got to take a step back , this lashes guy, is involved with the Barretts

                No idea what show you are referring to, but Is that the brother-in-law?

                Sam Casey is his real name.

                He was the guy who was on the piss with Jordie in Dunedin when he was smashing late night maccas in the lounge of a random flat.

                He is also the guy who pissed off Alice Soper by saying women's rugby is shit, and no one cares.

                Used to run a Dunedin club page, was the producer of The Country, and will still have playing rugby contacts.

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                  @Bovidae said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @KiwiMurph think , we've got to take a step back , this lashes guy, is involved with the Barretts

                  No idea what show you are referring to, but Is that the brother-in-law?

                  Sam Casey is his real name.

                  He was the guy who was on the piss with Jordie in Dunedin when he was smashing late night maccas in the lounge of a random flat.

                  He is also the guy who pissed off Alice Soper by saying women's rugby is shit, and no one cares.

                  Used to run a Dunedin club page, was the producer of The Country, and will still have playing rugby contacts.

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                  @SouthernMann ok, is he reliable, or not

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                    No im not lashes. He has good oil but only from other players. Barrett’s McKenzie , ALB

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                      Casey is reliable. Bit of a plank of a bloke though.

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                      • G george33

                        @Steven-Harris Hoskins turned down, camp and said no, really,

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                        @george33 politely declined
                        Makes you wonder if he’s heading offshore or has no time for the current coaching staff

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                        • H handa457

                          @Steven-Harris any other uncapped Canes or Blues players there this week?

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                          @handa457 heard Tavatavanawai is in Tauranga and his numbers are out the gate

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                          • gt12G gt12

                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Interestingly, we've had talk about the coaches saying that CLW is too small (@Chris ?) but here the guy was saying that the coaches love him and thinks he'll be picked if he plays well this weekend.

                            Not sure what you are asking I never said that he was too small or the coaches said that.?

                            Might not be you, but someone has said that they heard from others that the coaches think he is too small

                            Nah not me.

                            Apologies, it was @Mr-Fish

                            https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/7083/all-blacks-2025/3338?_=1750308026841

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                            Mr Fish
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                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @Chris said in All Blacks 2025:

                            @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                            Interestingly, we've had talk about the coaches saying that CLW is too small (@Chris ?) but here the guy was saying that the coaches love him and thinks he'll be picked if he plays well this weekend.

                            Not sure what you are asking I never said that he was too small or the coaches said that.?

                            Might not be you, but someone has said that they heard from others that the coaches think he is too small

                            Nah not me.

                            Apologies, it was @Mr-Fish

                            https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/topic/7083/all-blacks-2025/3338?_=1750308026841

                            Yeah unless Razor's tune has changed from last year... Loves CLW (which is why he was with the squad for a lot of last year when injuries struck) but didn't think he had the size for Test rugby (which is why he never got a run, even when the All Blacks were down to about five overplayed loosies).

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                              @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Cheers @george33

                              At 6:15 here:

                              According to this, Hoskins was asked to attend and said "I'm all good thanks, I'll chill".

                              Thanks for that. The context is important - it looks like he's just asked to hold tackle bags while other loose forwards are given time off.

                              Then the hosts go full retard suggesting the Blues should be done with him.

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                              @antipodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                              Then the hosts go full retard suggesting the Blues should be done with him.

                              That's moronic.

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                              • gt12G gt12

                                Interesting talk, thanks for suggesting it @george33

                                It will be interesting to see how these points stack up.

                                You'd have to think that Sotutu is leaving, no-one can be dumb enough to not go, even if you are only going to hold tackle bags.

                                End of the segment is interesting - he's running down Clayton McMillan and questioning his attitude / egotism (basically saying that he's got tickets on himself and can't back it up).

                                Suggests that there are some issues with the way he's leaving the Chiefs too...

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                                @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                End of the segment is interesting - he's running down Clayton McMillan and questioning his attitude / egotism (basically saying that he's got tickets on himself and can't back it up).

                                McMillan has been a great servant to NZ rugby and the Chiefs. Overall he's produced a very strong team which won zero games under Gats.

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                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Discussion of Kirifi ahead of Papalii, suggesting that Paps may have reached his peak and they want to see someone else (is @chchfanatic actually Lashes?)

                                  In this part, btw, it did seem that this was his analysis and not necessarily sauce.

                                  Papali'i's problem is he doesn't have a natural position so he just ends up being another of these hybrid loosies

                                  Throw in how Papalii pretty much got dropped for the second half of the last test season and it makes sense.

                                  He should focus on blindside, I reckon he'd go best there with his skillset.

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                                  @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  Discussion of Kirifi ahead of Papalii, suggesting that Paps may have reached his peak and they want to see someone else (is @chchfanatic actually Lashes?)

                                  In this part, btw, it did seem that this was his analysis and not necessarily sauce.

                                  Papali'i's problem is he doesn't have a natural position so he just ends up being another of these hybrid loosies

                                  Throw in how Papalii pretty much got dropped for the second half of the last test season and it makes sense.

                                  He should focus on blindside, I reckon he'd go best there with his skillset.

                                  I remember he played test 2 vs Ireland in Dunedin there a few years ago and was completely anonymous

                                  I agree though that it would be his best path - packing on some more size and a full campaign there for the Blues (they do have a glaring need at 6) would be interesting to see

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                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    End of the segment is interesting - he's running down Clayton McMillan and questioning his attitude / egotism (basically saying that he's got tickets on himself and can't back it up).

                                    McMillan has been a great servant to NZ rugby and the Chiefs. Overall he's produced a very strong team which won zero games under Gats.

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                                    Mr Fish
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                                    @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    End of the segment is interesting - he's running down Clayton McMillan and questioning his attitude / egotism (basically saying that he's got tickets on himself and can't back it up).

                                    McMillan has been a great servant to NZ rugby and the Chiefs. Overall he's produced a very strong team which won zero games under Gats.

                                    They won zero Super Rugby Aotearoa games - they were cruising along pretty well in 2020 before Covid hit.

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                                      @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      @gt12 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                      End of the segment is interesting - he's running down Clayton McMillan and questioning his attitude / egotism (basically saying that he's got tickets on himself and can't back it up).

                                      McMillan has been a great servant to NZ rugby and the Chiefs. Overall he's produced a very strong team which won zero games under Gats.

                                      They won zero Super Rugby Aotearoa games - they were cruising along pretty well in 2020 before Covid hit.

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                                      brodean
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                                      @Mr-Fish

                                      Yeah they lost 8 games in Super Rugby Aotearoa 2020 - every game of the season. The following year McMillan took over so Gats could work on the Lions tour. They placed second on the table.

                                      Anyway no need for those guys to run down McMillan when he's given it a decent crack when more and more players/coaches are leaving NZ. What's the value in them running a bloke down who coached a good team?

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                                        @Mr-Fish

                                        Yeah they lost 8 games in Super Rugby Aotearoa 2020 - every game of the season. The following year McMillan took over so Gats could work on the Lions tour. They placed second on the table.

                                        Anyway no need for those guys to run down McMillan when he's given it a decent crack when more and more players/coaches are leaving NZ. What's the value in them running a bloke down who coached a good team?

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                                        Mr Fish
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                                        @brodean I was just clarifying that they did win games under Gatland, it was just in SRA where they went winless.

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                                          gatland was very popular with the players

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