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2025 All Blacks v France series

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  • KirwanK Kirwan

    Only one specialist 8, two specialist wingers. Not a fan of utility players all over the place.

    Same as 10s playing 15, they fixed fullback now that maliase is spreading around the team. Locks that aren't that great at 6 covering six.

    A giant cup of meh.

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    @Kirwan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    Only one specialist 8, two specialist wingers. Not a fan of utility players all over the place.

    Same as 10s playing 15, they fixed fullback now that maliase is spreading around the team. Locks that aren't that great at 6 covering six.

    A giant cup of meh.

    No Papalii, Sotutu or Fusitua.
    Blues not doing well.

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    • KirwanK Kirwan

      Only one specialist 8, two specialist wingers. Not a fan of utility players all over the place.

      Same as 10s playing 15, they fixed fullback now that maliase is spreading around the team. Locks that aren't that great at 6 covering six.

      A giant cup of meh.

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      @Kirwan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

      Only one specialist 8, two specialist wingers. Not a fan of utility players all over the place.

      Same as 10s playing 15, they fixed fullback now that maliase is spreading around the team. Locks that aren't that great at 6 covering six.

      A giant cup of meh.

      Razor still talking about Beauden as a fullback.

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      • FrankF Frank

        @Kirwan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

        Only one specialist 8, two specialist wingers. Not a fan of utility players all over the place.

        Same as 10s playing 15, they fixed fullback now that maliase is spreading around the team. Locks that aren't that great at 6 covering six.

        A giant cup of meh.

        No Papalii, Sotutu or Fusitua.
        Blues not doing well.

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        @Frank said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

        @Kirwan said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

        Only one specialist 8, two specialist wingers. Not a fan of utility players all over the place.

        Same as 10s playing 15, they fixed fullback now that maliase is spreading around the team. Locks that aren't that great at 6 covering six.

        A giant cup of meh.

        No Papalii, Sotutu or Fusitua.
        Blues not doing well.

        Apparently the Blues have the worst forwards in the country because they got the least amount of forwards selected.

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        • NepiaN Nepia

          Not a bad squad.

          The only guy I'm genuinely annoyed about in this squad is Reece.

          Lio-Willie's inclusion as cover means form counts this year in a way it didn't last year. I think Sotutu offers more but are we resigned to seeing him turn out for England or Fiji. Don't mind Kirifi's selection after years of toiling away.

          Scooter better fucking not be covering 6, it took him most of the season to get into form at his usual spot without him being shifted. And then if we move Vaa'i then were moving our best performing lock of the last two years.

          I wonder if Tupaea will get a decent shot this year? Hard to overcome the last name Barrett in NZ rugby.

          The finals don't appear to have had an impact on the selections.

          Pleased to see McAlister there, Bell hasn't looked up to the task and isn't even the next best hooker in his franchise.

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          @Nepia said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

          Not a bad squad.

          The only guy I'm genuinely annoyed about in this squad is Reece.

          Lio-Willie's inclusion as cover means form counts this year in a way it didn't last year. I think Sotutu offers more but are we resigned to seeing him turn out for England or Fiji. Don't mind Kirifi's selection after years of toiling away.

          Scooter better fucking not be covering 6, it took him most of the season to get into form at his usual spot without him being shifted. And then if we move Vaa'i then were moving our best performing lock of the last two years.

          I wonder if Tupaea will get a decent shot this year? Hard to overcome the last name Barrett in NZ rugby.

          The finals don't appear to have had an impact on the selections.

          Pleased to see McAlister there, Bell hasn't looked up to the task and isn't even the next best hooker in his franchise.

          Reece has no pace and shelled a couple of high profile high balls last year.

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          • JetJ Jet

            @Nepia said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            Not a bad squad.

            The only guy I'm genuinely annoyed about in this squad is Reece.

            Lio-Willie's inclusion as cover means form counts this year in a way it didn't last year. I think Sotutu offers more but are we resigned to seeing him turn out for England or Fiji. Don't mind Kirifi's selection after years of toiling away.

            Scooter better fucking not be covering 6, it took him most of the season to get into form at his usual spot without him being shifted. And then if we move Vaa'i then were moving our best performing lock of the last two years.

            I wonder if Tupaea will get a decent shot this year? Hard to overcome the last name Barrett in NZ rugby.

            The finals don't appear to have had an impact on the selections.

            Pleased to see McAlister there, Bell hasn't looked up to the task and isn't even the next best hooker in his franchise.

            Reece has no pace and shelled a couple of high profile high balls last year.

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            @Jet said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            @Nepia said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            Not a bad squad.

            The only guy I'm genuinely annoyed about in this squad is Reece.

            Lio-Willie's inclusion as cover means form counts this year in a way it didn't last year. I think Sotutu offers more but are we resigned to seeing him turn out for England or Fiji. Don't mind Kirifi's selection after years of toiling away.

            Scooter better fucking not be covering 6, it took him most of the season to get into form at his usual spot without him being shifted. And then if we move Vaa'i then were moving our best performing lock of the last two years.

            I wonder if Tupaea will get a decent shot this year? Hard to overcome the last name Barrett in NZ rugby.

            The finals don't appear to have had an impact on the selections.

            Pleased to see McAlister there, Bell hasn't looked up to the task and isn't even the next best hooker in his franchise.

            Reece has no pace and fudged a couple of high profile high balls last year.

            He lost us the Argentina game.

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              Razor is a bizarre interviewee.

              Meanders in his answers.

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              • JetJ Jet

                Razor is a bizarre interviewee.

                Meanders in his answers.

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                @Jet Mitshell-esque. Would much rather listen to Jamie Joseph.

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                  Brodie McAlister you would have to say his decision to move north to the Chiefs has paid dividends.

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                    George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

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                    • 1kiwi1 1kiwi

                      Brodie McAlister you would have to say his decision to move north to the Chiefs has paid dividends.

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                      @1kiwi said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      Brodie McAlister you would have to say his decision to move north to the Chiefs has paid dividends.

                      Especially on the Fern.

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                      • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                        George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

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                        @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                        George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

                        Just signed a new 3 year deal with the Crusaders,

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                          @Chris-B is that right? Parker and Tangitau?

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                          @reprobate said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                          @Chris-B is that right? Parker and Tangitau?

                          I think the foreshadowing is just wrong.

                          I think (it's Razor) Razor just said they'll be adding three players for the Rugby Championship.

                          In any case, they've got CLW and EN as injury cover - and he said they're available for selection - so, effectively they're just one midfielder more than most here were picking and one loose forward less.

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                          • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                            George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

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                            @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

                            Bell will be duking it out with Moananu in a couple years time I believe as it wouldn't surprise me if Codie Taylor either hangs up his boots or heads overseas after the next world cup.

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                            • ChrisC Chris

                              @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

                              Just signed a new 3 year deal with the Crusaders,

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                              @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

                              Just signed a new 3 year deal with the Crusaders,

                              Must love sitting on the bench.

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                              • SouthernMannS SouthernMann

                                @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

                                Just signed a new 3 year deal with the Crusaders,

                                Must love sitting on the bench.

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                                @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

                                Just signed a new 3 year deal with the Crusaders,

                                Must love sitting on the bench.

                                getting paid AB wages to sit on the bench. Well, he was.

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                                  I think Caleb Clarke can count himself lucky to be there. He didn't score a try for the Blues this season.

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                                  • 1kiwi1 1kiwi

                                    @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                    George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

                                    Bell will be duking it out with Moananu in a couple years time I believe as it wouldn't surprise me if Codie Taylor either hangs up his boots or heads overseas after the next world cup.

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                                    @1kiwi said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                    @SouthernMann said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                    George Bell. Canterbury's third string hooker. Boys needs to go aomewhere that he won't be stuck on the bench.

                                    Bell will be duking it out with Moananu in a couple years time I believe as it wouldn't surprise me if Codie Taylor either hangs up his boots or heads overseas after the next world cup.

                                    Well, yeah, Codie Taylor will be 37 in 2028.

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                                      there are some weird bits, JB, Tupaea and Big Jim named as midfielders, all 12's? and the RI a 13 theyve said will cover wing...just trying to work out the logistics, doesnt feel even depth across all positions

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                                        akan004
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                                        Not a bad squad, but am not sure about Reece, McAlister and ALB. I don't understand why they didn't pick 35 players though, and with the RWC only 2 years away, surely you want to get as many players into the environment as possible and build depth.

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                                        • 1kiwi1 1kiwi

                                          I think Caleb Clarke can count himself lucky to be there. He didn't score a try for the Blues this season.

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                                          @1kiwi said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                          I think Caleb Clarke can count himself lucky to be there. He didn't score a try for the Blues this season.

                                          Outside backs have been shit for years.

                                          Used to be such a strength.

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