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2025 All Blacks v France series

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  • ChrisC Chris

    Maybe Blackadder time is not over in the black jersey
    Crusaders loose forward Ethan Blackadder is one of the unlucky names to miss out, although it must be said he's another who has struggled with injury problems.

    "He could have easily been picked," Robertson says.

    "It's margins and we've got to balance the squad. He'll be in and around at some stage this campaign.

    "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

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    @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    Maybe Blackadder time is not over in the black jersey
    Crusaders loose forward Ethan Blackadder is one of the unlucky names to miss out, although it must be said he's another who has struggled with injury problems.

    "He could have easily been picked," Robertson says.

    "It's margins and we've got to balance the squad. He'll be in and around at some stage this campaign.

    "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

    He can play all three positions can't he ?

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      No Mark Telea is the right call IMHO given he's going overseas.

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      • MN5M MN5

        @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

        Maybe Blackadder time is not over in the black jersey
        Crusaders loose forward Ethan Blackadder is one of the unlucky names to miss out, although it must be said he's another who has struggled with injury problems.

        "He could have easily been picked," Robertson says.

        "It's margins and we've got to balance the squad. He'll be in and around at some stage this campaign.

        "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

        He can play all three positions can't he ?

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        @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

        @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

        Maybe Blackadder time is not over in the black jersey
        Crusaders loose forward Ethan Blackadder is one of the unlucky names to miss out, although it must be said he's another who has struggled with injury problems.

        "He could have easily been picked," Robertson says.

        "It's margins and we've got to balance the squad. He'll be in and around at some stage this campaign.

        "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

        He can play all three positions can't he ?

        Not effectively

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        • ChrisC Chris

          Maybe Blackadder time is not over in the black jersey
          Crusaders loose forward Ethan Blackadder is one of the unlucky names to miss out, although it must be said he's another who has struggled with injury problems.

          "He could have easily been picked," Robertson says.

          "It's margins and we've got to balance the squad. He'll be in and around at some stage this campaign.

          "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

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          @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

          "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

          " Both sides of the ball" is so 2024.........

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            Maybe Blackadder time is not over in the black jersey
            Crusaders loose forward Ethan Blackadder is one of the unlucky names to miss out, although it must be said he's another who has struggled with injury problems.

            "He could have easily been picked," Robertson says.

            "It's margins and we've got to balance the squad. He'll be in and around at some stage this campaign.

            "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

            He can play all three positions can't he ?

            Not effectively

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            @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

            Maybe Blackadder time is not over in the black jersey
            Crusaders loose forward Ethan Blackadder is one of the unlucky names to miss out, although it must be said he's another who has struggled with injury problems.

            "He could have easily been picked," Robertson says.

            "It's margins and we've got to balance the squad. He'll be in and around at some stage this campaign.

            "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

            He can play all three positions can't he ?

            Not effectively

            That wasn't what I asked 😉

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              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

              Blackadder is a surprise, but can understand it due to the continuous injuries.

              They really missed an opportunity not naming him as the injury cover.

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              @reprobate said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

              @Old-Samurai-Jack said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

              Blackadder is a surprise, but can understand it due to the continuous injuries.

              They really missed an opportunity not naming him as the injury cover.

              Gold

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                So what's going on with Dalton Papalii? Is he heading overseas?

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                  if LJ Is fit for first test and sititi is carrying a injury wouldn't surprise me if we start him a 7 and AS to 8 and finau at 6

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                  • BovidaeB Bovidae

                    @Chris-B said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                    @Frank said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                    Can Tupaea play 13?

                    He used to play mostly 13, but probably 4-5 years ago now.

                    Tupaea has mainly been a 12 (since school) who has played 13, but probably more for Waikato than the Chiefs.

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                    @Bovidae Yeah - I looked at this very question a few weeks ago, because someone said he was only a 12, but my memory was that he'd played more at 13 than what he has.

                    https://all.rugby/player/quinn-tupaea

                    2019/20 he played a lot of 13, but very little since - starting anyway.

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                    • Chris B.C Chris B.

                      If I remember correctly, Rieko's mainly a left wing - but, he can play right wing as well?

                      If you name him on the wing, you can effectively cover all positions against injury - without ALB needing to be on the bench. e.g.

                      Roigard, Beaudy, Rieko, Jordie, Proctor, Reece, Jordan

                      Ratima, DMac, Tupaea

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                      @Chris-B said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                      If I remember correctly, Rieko's mainly a left wing - but, he can play right wing as well?

                      If you name him on the wing, you can effectively cover all positions against injury - without ALB needing to be on the bench. e.g.

                      Roigard, Beaudy, Rieko, Jordie, Proctor, Reece, Jordan

                      Ratima, DMac, Tupaea

                      It’s a home test against France, so I would take this chance to get a mix of young and experienced.

                      Roigard, Love
                      Jordie, Proctor
                      Clarke, Reece/Ioane
                      Jordan

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                      • sparkyS sparky

                        So what's going on with Dalton Papalii? Is he heading overseas?

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                        @sparky one of the blokes on reddit was saying apparently he made a late night call to Razor that burned some bridges. Obviously nothing more than hearsay at this stage, and it's not like he wasn't already battling for a spot in the squad. But anyone here know anything about that / can confirm / deny?

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                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                          @Chris-B said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                          If I remember correctly, Rieko's mainly a left wing - but, he can play right wing as well?

                          If you name him on the wing, you can effectively cover all positions against injury - without ALB needing to be on the bench. e.g.

                          Roigard, Beaudy, Rieko, Jordie, Proctor, Reece, Jordan

                          Ratima, DMac, Tupaea

                          It’s a home test against France, so I would take this chance to get a mix of young and experienced.

                          Roigard, Love
                          Jordie, Proctor
                          Clarke, Reece/Ioane
                          Jordan

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                          @ACT-Crusader I'll be amazed if Love starts the first test at first five!

                          If we win the first couple handsomely, maybe.

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                          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

                            @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            Maybe Blackadder time is not over in the black jersey
                            Crusaders loose forward Ethan Blackadder is one of the unlucky names to miss out, although it must be said he's another who has struggled with injury problems.

                            "He could have easily been picked," Robertson says.

                            "It's margins and we've got to balance the squad. He'll be in and around at some stage this campaign.

                            "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

                            He can play all three positions can't he ?

                            Not effectively

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                            @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            @MN5 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            @Chris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                            Maybe Blackadder time is not over in the black jersey
                            Crusaders loose forward Ethan Blackadder is one of the unlucky names to miss out, although it must be said he's another who has struggled with injury problems.

                            "He could have easily been picked," Robertson says.

                            "It's margins and we've got to balance the squad. He'll be in and around at some stage this campaign.

                            "We're just looking for a little bit more versatility."

                            He can play all three positions can't he ?

                            Not effectively

                            since when has that been a consideration?

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                              Some great options now available for Foster's Anzac XV. I read in the Aussie papers that Tele'a and Sotutu are already on board

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                              • Chris B.C Chris B.

                                @ACT-Crusader I'll be amazed if Love starts the first test at first five!

                                If we win the first couple handsomely, maybe.

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                                @Chris-B said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                @ACT-Crusader I'll be amazed if Love starts the first test at first five!

                                If we win the first couple handsomely, maybe.

                                No time like the present.

                                I’ve had a gutful of the play of Barrett and DMac at 10

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  interesting squad.
                                  Tight 5 pretty much selected itself bar maybe the next hooker in line.
                                  I can understand the loose forward numbers, not as attritional as some think, we don't tend to go through too many.
                                  Lots of 12s which is interesting.

                                  I look forward to seeing how this squad is turned in to a team.

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                                  @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                  interesting squad.
                                  Tight 5 pretty much selected itself bar maybe the next hooker in line.
                                  I can understand the loose forward numbers, not as attritional as some think, we don't tend to go through too many.
                                  Lots of 12s which is interesting.

                                  I look forward to seeing how this squad is turned in to a team.

                                  Well last year he selected 7 loosies, then needed more due to injury no?
                                  So this year 5 + (FFS) locks who a) there is no evidence can cover 6 well, and b) are not in any way similar to the loosies selected...

                                  Squad to team will be very interesting, given the claims of being bolder. I fear it could be close to exactly the same team as last year, with the boldness being digging his heels in on the small loosies and shit backs.

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                                  • H handa457

                                    @sparky one of the blokes on reddit was saying apparently he made a late night call to Razor that burned some bridges. Obviously nothing more than hearsay at this stage, and it's not like he wasn't already battling for a spot in the squad. But anyone here know anything about that / can confirm / deny?

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                                    @handa457 said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                    @sparky one of the blokes on reddit was saying apparently he made a late night call to Razor that burned some bridges. Obviously nothing more than hearsay at this stage, and it's not like he wasn't already battling for a spot in the squad. But anyone here know anything about that / can confirm / deny?

                                    I think @Nogusta said last year that Razor had ghosted him last year before the EOYT which may have caused some friction there?

                                    Not trying to cause a big gossip session, but just elaborating on that point you made.

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                                    • AmberArmyA AmberArmy

                                      One of the weakest and worst selected AB teams I’ve seen in my lifetime.

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                                      @AmberArmy who would you have had in ?
                                      For me its as close to the best we available given the unavailabilities One or 2 you could debate but in the main its pretty spot on and you could hardly accuse Razor of bias
                                      If it was’nt for injury i would suggest Tangitau,Amua,Tu’ungafasi and possibly Parker are a lock in
                                      I do feel for Dalton Papalii , but thats just me

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                                        @AmberArmy who would you have had in ?
                                        For me its as close to the best we available given the unavailabilities One or 2 you could debate but in the main its pretty spot on and you could hardly accuse Razor of bias
                                        If it was’nt for injury i would suggest Tangitau,Amua,Tu’ungafasi and possibly Parker are a lock in
                                        I do feel for Dalton Papalii , but thats just me

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                                        @Steven-Harris said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        @AmberArmy who would you have had in ?
                                        For me its as close to the best we available given the unavailabilities One or 2 you could debate but in the main its pretty spot on and you could hardly accuse Razor of bias
                                        If it was’nt for injury i would suggest Tangitau,Amua,Tu’ungafasi and possibly Parker are a lock in
                                        I do feel for Dalton Papalii , but thats just me

                                        Aumua would’ve made it.
                                        Parker, by all accounts would’ve also.

                                        I think Tu’ungafasi is an interesting one. We have built depth at prop and the role he has been playing for the ABs we have options.

                                        Tangitau, not sure. Definitely a prospect.

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                                          @chchfanatic looked to be bang on the money I think, good sauce.

                                          Very pleased for Norris, I think he has international quality.
                                          You have to assume that they'll look at Vaaii getting some time at 6, I feel like they may have missed a trick by skipping over Ah Kuoi, but hard to complain.

                                          We need an ABXV with a real schedule so we can have Moananu, Fusitua, Ah kuoi etc playing against (second-ranked) international teams.

                                          Edit: I think chch fanatic only missed on one, with Fusitua missing

                                          All I’ve heard is that Big Jim looks to be in. Holland in. No blackadder.
                                          Fusitua in. Proctor in. Reiko as a wing/centre.
                                          Either Christian Lio Willie or Hoskins. Still have made the final call.
                                          Forgot Kirifi too.

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