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2025 All Blacks v France series

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  • sparkyS sparky

    If you scroll down to the "Players" part of the French National Rugby Team's Wikipedia page you'll see the age of the players, their club and their caps.

    It's not exactly an experienced international back row that will be taking on the ABs.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_national_rugby_union_team

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    @sparky said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

    If you scroll down to the "Players" part of the French National Rugby Team's Wikipedia page you'll see the age of the players, their club and their caps.

    It's not exactly an experienced international back row that will be taking on the ABs.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/France_national_rugby_union_team

    It’s essentially a France XV squad.

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      Frogs are in a cant really lose situation,

      they create depth and no one is expecting them to win ,

      I dont like it though , if they arent going to send full strength teams we shouldnt have them back

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      • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

        Frogs are in a cant really lose situation,

        they create depth and no one is expecting them to win ,

        I dont like it though , if they arent going to send full strength teams we shouldnt have them back

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        @kiwiinmelb not like they havent done this before though.

        Would be good if we just smoke them...or we should have made it NZ A or the Maori to face them.

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          @DurryMexted

          We don't have the same level of depth. They have 14 deep squads because of the season length.

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          @brodean i guess we will see. If i was a french rugby fan i'd be pretty pissed - i.e if NZ named a squad along those lines, i believe we would be calling for review of how the international team is managed & the impact on our international reputation/rankings etc. I guess just a different attitude there where club>country

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            Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

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              Of course it would be nice if France sent a full strength team. This way, there is no excuse for not giving everyone a run to see how they are. And taking the opportunity to work on different combinations

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                Screenshot 2025-06-24 at 22.40.32.png

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                  I asked Google Gemini to get the player attributes and positions of the squad.

                  I have not verified for accuracy but have asked for links to all.rugby pages.

                  Forwards

                  Player Club Position Age Height Weight
                  Props
                  Demba Bamba Racing 92 Prop 27 1.85m 124kg
                  Giorgi Beria USA Perpignan Prop 25 1.75m 108kg
                  Georges-Henri Colombe La Rochelle Prop 27 1.88m 135kg
                  Baptiste Erdocio Montpellier HR Prop 25 1.83m 115kg
                  Paul Mallez Provence Rugby Prop 24 1.83m 120kg
                  Régis Montagne ASM Clermont Prop 24 1.87m 120kg
                  Rabah Slimani Leinster Rugby Prop 35 1.78m 115kg
                  Hookers
                  Gaëtan Barlot Castres Olympique Hooker 28 1.84m 107kg
                  Pierre Bourgarit La Rochelle Hooker 27 1.84m 108kg
                  Guillaume Marchand Lyon Rugby Hooker 26 1.83m 105kg
                  Locks
                  Hugo Auradou Pau Second Row 21 2.00m 100kg
                  Tyler Duguid Montpellier HR Lock 24 2.01m 120kg
                  Mickaël Guillard Lyon Rugby Lock 24 2.04m 115kg
                  Matthias Halagahu RC Toulon Lock 23 2.02m 116kg
                  Romain Taofifenua Racing 92 Lock 34 2.03m 135kg
                  Théo William Lyon Rugby Lock 24 2.02m 118kg
                  Flankers
                  Esteban Abadie RC Toulon Flanker 27 1.88m 105kg
                  Alexandre Fischer ASM Clermont Flanker 27 1.83m 97kg
                  Killian Tixeront ASM Clermont Flanker 22 1.93m 100kg
                  Jacobus Van Tonder USA Perpignan Flanker 27 1.93m 105kg
                  Cameron Woki Racing 92 Flanker 26 1.96m 108kg

                  Backs

                  Player Club Position Age Height Weight
                  Scrum-halves
                  Thibault Daubagna Pau Scrum-half 31 1.76m 80kg
                  Baptiste Jauneau ASM Clermont Scrum-half 21 1.75m 78kg
                  Nolann Le Garrec Racing 92 Scrum-half 23 1.77m 80kg
                  Fly-halves
                  Léo Berdeu Lyon Rugby Fly-half 27 1.95m 95kg
                  Antoine Hastoy La Rochelle Fly-half 28 1.80m 85kg
                  Joris Segonds Bayonne Fly-half 28 1.80m 85kg
                  Centres
                  Léon Darricarrère ASM Clermont Centre 20 1.95m 100kg
                  Gaël Fickou (c) Racing 92 Centre 31 1.90m 95kg
                  Émilien Gailleton Pau Centre 21 1.85m 90kg
                  Théo Millet Lyon Rugby Centre 27 1.85m 95kg
                  Wings
                  Théo Attissogbe Pau Wing 20 1.80m 80kg
                  Alivereti Duguivalu USA Perpignan Wing 23 1.80m 90kg
                  Cheikh Tiberghien Bayonne Wing 24 1.80m 85kg
                  Gabin Villière RC Toulon Wing 29 1.80m 90kg
                  Fullbacks
                  Léo Barré Stade Français Fullback 22 1.91m 87kg
                  Tom Spring Bayonne Fullback 22 1.85m 85kg
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                    #655

                    Overall there seems to be some height and weight in the locks/backrow.

                    The backs don't seem particularly big.

                    There are not too many very young players. There are a lot of players in their mid twenties which should be hitting their peak.

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                      Their top xv is passable, but very green indeed below that. AB bench should go well.

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                      • taniwharugbyT taniwharugby

                        @kiwiinmelb not like they havent done this before though.

                        Would be good if we just smoke them...or we should have made it NZ A or the Maori to face them.

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                        @taniwharugby said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                        @kiwiinmelb not like they havent done this before though.

                        Would be good if we just smoke them...or we should have made it NZ A or the Maori to face them.

                        Cultural differences I guess, to us every test match is important ,

                        For them, are they influenced by their most popular sport soccer where some test matches are labelled friendlies if not much is on the line ?

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                        • kiwiinmelbK kiwiinmelb

                          @taniwharugby said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                          @kiwiinmelb not like they havent done this before though.

                          Would be good if we just smoke them...or we should have made it NZ A or the Maori to face them.

                          Cultural differences I guess, to us every test match is important ,

                          For them, are they influenced by their most popular sport soccer where some test matches are labelled friendlies if not much is on the line ?

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                          @kiwiinmelb

                          My French friend emailed me using exactly that word last week.

                          It’s a completely different view if you don’t value the legacy of AB success.

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                            @kiwiinmelb

                            My French friend emailed me using exactly that word last week.

                            It’s a completely different view if you don’t value the legacy of AB success.

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                            @gt12 reminds me of one of the early Adidas campaigns when they came on board with the ABs.

                            "The legacy you face is more intimidating than any opposition"

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                            • B brodean

                              @DurryMexted

                              We don't have the same level of depth. They have 14 deep squads because of the season length.

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                              @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                              @DurryMexted

                              We don't have the same level of depth. They have 14 deep squads because of the season length.

                              I could easily find 17 uncapped NZRU contracted players and hand them an AB cap and say go smash ‘em bro

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                                @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                @DurryMexted

                                We don't have the same level of depth. They have 14 deep squads because of the season length.

                                I could easily find 17 uncapped NZRU contracted players and hand them an AB cap and say go smash ‘em bro

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                @DurryMexted

                                We don't have the same level of depth. They have 14 deep squads because of the season length.

                                I could easily find 17 uncapped NZRU contracted players and hand them an AB cap and say go smash ‘em bro

                                Brian McGrattan, Sean Fitzpatrick, Kevin Boroevich.....

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                                  Cameron Woki, despite getting a red card from the Bunker on Saturday, is a free to play in the first test against the All Blacks. The French will be grateful to have one of the most experienced players in the squad available

                                  https://www.world.rugby/news/1000848/independent-disciplinary-process-update-immanuel-fey-waboso-england-and-cameron-woki-france

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                                    I'm now happy that I didn't bother to buy a ticket to the 3rd test. The price certainly doesn't justify the strength of the French team. Of course, the game sold out weeks ago!

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                                      World Rugby need to fine associations who don't select their strongest available 23s for Test matches.

                                      The fans of Dunedin, Wellington and Hamilton are being treated with contempt by the French Rugby authorities.

                                      A bigger proportion of the gate receipts from the All Blacks next game in Paris should be given to NZR.

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                                      • BovidaeB Bovidae

                                        I'm now happy that I didn't bother to buy a ticket to the 3rd test. The price certainly doesn't justify the strength of the French team. Of course, the game sold out weeks ago!

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                                        @Bovidae 500 more tickets have been released today if anyone does want to see the All Blacks taken on the French third string team. Hospitality is also available.

                                        https://twitter.com/AllBlacks/status/1937662183997104356

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                                          Amidst the disappointing news of a weak French team I got the personal good news today that I would like to share.

                                          I was able to get tickets to attend the captains run in Hamilton and it will be either Conrad Smith or Stephen Donald hosting and discussing their career etc. Beyond excited. Just two weeks till we fly to NZ to visit for the first time and the time can't rush by soon enough.

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