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  • MN5M MN5

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Razor is on Breakdown, Justin Marshall sounds butthurt about DHs omission

    James O’Connor will be shocked too

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/james-oconnors-endorsement-adds-heat-to-all-blacks-midfield-debate/

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    @MN5 said in All Blacks 2025:

    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

    Razor is on Breakdown, Justin Marshall sounds butthurt about DHs omission

    James O’Connor will be shocked too

    https://www.rugbypass.com/news/james-oconnors-endorsement-adds-heat-to-all-blacks-midfield-debate/

    JOC was certainly throwing around the praise this season

    O’Connor, who has seen first hand the ability Kemara possesses, was even more effusive with his praise for the talented playmaker.
    
    “I would say he’s probably the most naturally gifted 10 I’ve played with."
    
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    • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

      I heard Dalton threatened to head butt them and that de-escalated things....

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      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks 2025:

      I heard Dalton threatened to head butt them and that de-escalated things....

      Where there’s smoke, there’s head butts…

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      • B brodean

        @Dan54

        Wallace Sititi only started 8 out of 15 games last year. He's started 13 Super Rugby games his entire career. Not even a full seasons worth

        Also Hoskins Sotutu was Super Rugby Player of the year and helped his team win a title. Something Sititi is yet to do.

        Sititi was a player of potential with a handful of good games but he wasn't obviously the best which is why his selection was controversial in the media.

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        @brodean said in All Blacks 2025:

        @Dan54

        Wallace Sititi only started 8 out of 15 games last year. He's started 13 Super Rugby games his entire career. Not even a full seasons worth

        Also Hoskins Sotutu was Super Rugby Player of the year and helped his team win a title. Something Sititi is yet to do.

        Sititi was a player of potential with a handful of good games but he wasn't obviously the best which is why his selection was controversial in the media.

        Yeah and they played him at 6. Ballsy.

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          Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?

          I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.

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          • nonpartizanN nonpartizan

            Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?

            I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.

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            @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

            Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?

            I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.

            I thought I heard Razor say CLW is available for selection in the first test

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            • canefanC canefan

              @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

              Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?

              I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.

              I thought I heard Razor say CLW is available for selection in the first test

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              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

              @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

              Point of clarification - when they list Lio Willie and Narawa as injury coverage does that mean they are in the squad until the two injured players recover or that they will be called up at some point in the future if the players don't recover?

              I'm just unclear what precisely that designation means. Thanks.

              I thought I heard Razor say CLW is available for selection in the first test

              Thanks canefan.

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              • G george33

                If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

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                @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

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                • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                  Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                  Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

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                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                  If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                  Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                  Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                  He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

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                  • canefanC canefan

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                    If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                    Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                    Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                    He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

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                    @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                    @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                    If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                    Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                    Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                    He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

                    Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

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                    • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                      Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                      Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                      He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

                      Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

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                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                      @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                      If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                      Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                      Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                      He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

                      Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

                      By whom?

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                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                        Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                        Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                        He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

                        Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

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                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                        @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                        If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                        Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                        Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                        He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

                        Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

                        He would be a fringe fill in, who might get some garbage time in a meaningless game that would then rule him ineligible to play for England, or anyone else. Keen?

                        https://media.tenor.com/HTz-RXN1qogAAAA1/tacos-de.webp

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                          Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.

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                            For whatever reason he has not requested an early release from the Blues

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                            • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                              Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                              Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                              He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

                              Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

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                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                              @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                              If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                              Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                              Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                              He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

                              Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

                              The bridge collapsed in 2024 when Tubby Ryan sat on one end of it and that ripple effect caused all the boats to sink.

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                              • nzzpN nzzp

                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                                Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                                Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                                He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

                                Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

                                By whom?

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                                @nzzp said in All Blacks 2025:

                                Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

                                By whom?

                                I have no oil. I was hoping someone here does.

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                                • canefanC canefan

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  @george33 said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  If Wallace Sititi is in a moonboot, that might add some spice for selection 2moro, depending on severity of injury.

                                  Left leg? In the final he looked like he tried to push off his left leg when he turned to stop a try and he just couldn't. Looked in pain to me.

                                  Gee if only there was a specialist 8 who was recently player of the year. . thinks...

                                  He's playing with the BaaBaas in SA, then he's probably off on a holiday trip to the UK......

                                  Bridges burnt, boats pushed out.

                                  He would be a fringe fill in, who might get some garbage time in a meaningless game that would then rule him ineligible to play for England, or anyone else. Keen?

                                  https://media.tenor.com/HTz-RXN1qogAAAA1/tacos-de.webp

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                                  @canefan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                  He would be a fringe fill in, who might get some garbage time in a meaningless game that would then rule him ineligible to play for England, or anyone else. Keen?

                                  It's an opportunity to represent NZ. Against a side that keeps beating us recently, B team or not. He's not going to get a better opportunity here.
                                  But I don't actually know what he is thinking, I don't have the extra-sensory talents of some on here and I don't know if the coaches have even mentioned him recently but they'd have something interesting to say I suspect.

                                  All I can say is that it would be great to pick players who are actually fit to play.

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                                  • nonpartizanN nonpartizan

                                    Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.

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                                    @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                    Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.

                                    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-squad-forwards-coach-jason-ryan-reveals-deciding-factor-in-wallace-sititis-selection/IIU4ED4PSVAS7KULK7CJR2YC2A/

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                                      That's cool that he's named after William Wallace

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                                      • nostrildamusN nostrildamus

                                        @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-squad-forwards-coach-jason-ryan-reveals-deciding-factor-in-wallace-sititis-selection/IIU4ED4PSVAS7KULK7CJR2YC2A/

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                                        @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                        Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.

                                        https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-squad-forwards-coach-jason-ryan-reveals-deciding-factor-in-wallace-sititis-selection/IIU4ED4PSVAS7KULK7CJR2YC2A/

                                        https://www.planetrugby.com/news/hoskins-sotutu-breaks-silence-on-rumoured-england-switch-and-claims-scott-robertson-snub-nothing-new

                                        This is where I read up on his England eligibility - as soon as November this year.

                                        From the tone of his comments it seems like he doesn't think he will be (or has been) given a fair shot to make the team and there's not much incentive to give up England eligibility just to hold the tackle bags at a few training camps and warm the bench.

                                        I'm not sure how much he would feature in Englands plans either but I suppose his agent will be trying to determine that and what the market is for him in Europe this (NH) summer.

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                                        • nonpartizanN nonpartizan

                                          @nostrildamus said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          @nonpartizan said in All Blacks 2025:

                                          Didn't Sotutu already turn down a call up in 2024? I probably read it here but I was under the impression that he was just biding his time until eligible for England.

                                          https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/all-blacks-squad-forwards-coach-jason-ryan-reveals-deciding-factor-in-wallace-sititis-selection/IIU4ED4PSVAS7KULK7CJR2YC2A/

                                          https://www.planetrugby.com/news/hoskins-sotutu-breaks-silence-on-rumoured-england-switch-and-claims-scott-robertson-snub-nothing-new

                                          This is where I read up on his England eligibility - as soon as November this year.

                                          From the tone of his comments it seems like he doesn't think he will be (or has been) given a fair shot to make the team and there's not much incentive to give up England eligibility just to hold the tackle bags at a few training camps and warm the bench.

                                          I'm not sure how much he would feature in Englands plans either but I suppose his agent will be trying to determine that and what the market is for him in Europe this (NH) summer.

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                                          @nonpartizan

                                          I think you've read too much into his comments. They come across as quite humble to me.

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