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2025 All Blacks v France series

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    game_film
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    There’s a reason why France have never won a RWC. Every time the heat comes on and they’re outside of their cozy little Stade on a Friday night they just don’t want to know about it.

    Razor needs to sweep the leg here. Tour from hell. I’ve seen enough in the business end of SR that they’re more than capable.

    That Wallabies - France 2021 series was great, yes. But in their first 2 games of the RC following that, the Wallabies got shelled for 95 by the ABs.

    Big picture this is a terrible look for the game and NZR need to think about what else they could do to bring in the dough next time.

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      @nonpartizan that sounds awesome, lucky bastard, if you are in Auckland then definitely try to do the "All Blacks Experience" at the Sky Tower too, it is well worth it.

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        There’s a reason why France have never won a RWC. Every time the heat comes on and they’re outside of their cozy little Stade on a Friday night they just don’t want to know about it.

        Razor needs to sweep the leg here. Tour from hell. I’ve seen enough in the business end of SR that they’re more than capable.

        That Wallabies - France 2021 series was great, yes. But in their first 2 games of the RC following that, the Wallabies got shelled for 95 by the ABs.

        Big picture this is a terrible look for the game and NZR need to think about what else they could do to bring in the dough next time.

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        @game_film

        The test series is sold out from what I understand. What more do you want in terms of bringing the dough?

        We can't even sell out RC games.

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        • BonesB Bones

          @Frank said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

          I don't mind a weaker French side. Gives the coaches more scope for experimentation.

          Nah, gives them scope to lose to a terrible french side and say "see, looks what happens when you experiment, fuck that - give Dave, Ethan, George, Cullen , Tom and Dallas a call."

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          @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

          @Frank said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

          I don't mind a weaker French side. Gives the coaches more scope for experimentation.

          Nah, gives them scope to lose to a terrible french side and say "see, looks what happens when you experiment, fuck that - give Dave, Ethan, George, Cullen , Tom and Dallas a call."

          Won't happen negative Nelly.

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            @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            @Frank said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            I don't mind a weaker French side. Gives the coaches more scope for experimentation.

            Nah, gives them scope to lose to a terrible french side and say "see, looks what happens when you experiment, fuck that - give Dave, Ethan, George, Cullen , Tom and Dallas a call."

            Won't happen negative Nelly.

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            antipodean
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            @Frank said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            @Frank said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            I don't mind a weaker French side. Gives the coaches more scope for experimentation.

            Nah, gives them scope to lose to a terrible french side and say "see, looks what happens when you experiment, fuck that - give Dave, Ethan, George, Cullen , Tom and Dallas a call."

            Won't happen negative Nelly.

            :hundred_points:

            We're going to munt them. The only time they're going to look good will be when it's obvious we're still adapting to new structures and players within those positions.

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              The other element of improvement for Jordan this year is in his leadership and communication.
              Probably easier to see whats going on from FB rather than wing.

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              • nonpartizanN nonpartizan

                Amidst the disappointing news of a weak French team I got the personal good news today that I would like to share.

                I was able to get tickets to attend the captains run in Hamilton and it will be either Conrad Smith or Stephen Donald hosting and discussing their career etc. Beyond excited. Just two weeks till we fly to NZ to visit for the first time and the time can't rush by soon enough.

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                @nonpartizan said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                Amidst the disappointing news of a weak French team I got the personal good news today that I would like to share.

                I was able to get tickets to attend the captains run in Hamilton and it will be either Conrad Smith or Stephen Donald hosting and discussing their career etc. Beyond excited. Just two weeks till we fly to NZ to visit for the first time and the time can't rush by soon enough.

                You now have the solemn responsibility to share stories from the event, name drop who was there, start a rumour and tell the Fern that you’ve been invited to breakfast.

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                • B brodean

                  @game_film

                  The test series is sold out from what I understand. What more do you want in terms of bringing the dough?

                  We can't even sell out RC games.

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                  @brodean Of course, but the damage won’t be felt immediately.

                  Have to protect the product.

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                    @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                    Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

                    That was an absolute ripper of a series

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                    @voodoo said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                    @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                    Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

                    That was an absolute ripper of a series

                    Played Wednesday nights for midweek beers as well!

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                      @voodoo said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

                      That was an absolute ripper of a series

                      Played Wednesday nights for midweek beers as well!

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                      @mariner4life said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      @voodoo said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

                      That was an absolute ripper of a series

                      Played Wednesday nights for midweek beers as well!

                      Like we needed an excuse for Wednesday beers…

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                      • voodooV voodoo

                        @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                        Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

                        That was an absolute ripper of a series

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                        @voodoo said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                        @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                        Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

                        That was an absolute ripper of a series

                        Will never forget it. Just 4 days after the second test at AAMI Park, Melbourne went into lockdown #5, having been off the leash for just a month.

                        And the first test was moved from Sydney.

                        Least we had some rugby to help us through that disgraceful time.

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                        • L Lancaster Park

                          The other element of improvement for Jordan this year is in his leadership and communication.
                          Probably easier to see whats going on from FB rather than wing.

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                          @Lancaster-Park said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                          The other element of improvement for Jordan this year is in his leadership and communication.
                          Probably easier to see whats going on from FB rather than wing.

                          Played fullback most of last year I thought?

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                          • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                            @voodoo said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                            @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                            Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

                            That was an absolute ripper of a series

                            Will never forget it. Just 4 days after the second test at AAMI Park, Melbourne went into lockdown #5, having been off the leash for just a month.

                            And the first test was moved from Sydney.

                            Least we had some rugby to help us through that disgraceful time.

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                            mariner4life
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                            @ACT-Crusader yeah over and above the super important Wednesday beers

                            The rugby was incredibly entertaining. It sort of brought me back to the game.

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                              @Bovidae said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              The pressure will be on Robertson and the ABs to win 3-0.

                              Hopefully people/press see the series as a real opportunity for Robertson to put his stamp on things and chance his arm a bit. Ideal scenario is getting 2-0 up and having the confidence to give people like Proctor & Love plenty of game time.

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                              @Victor-Meldrew said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                              @Bovidae said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                              The pressure will be on Robertson and the ABs to win 3-0.

                              Hopefully people/press see the series as a real opportunity for Robertson to put his stamp on things and chance his arm a bit. Ideal scenario is getting 2-0 up and having the confidence to give people like Proctor & Love plenty of game time.

                              I would really be hoping that Proctor is in pole position and starts all three tests.

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                                @Victor-Meldrew said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                @Bovidae said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                The pressure will be on Robertson and the ABs to win 3-0.

                                Hopefully people/press see the series as a real opportunity for Robertson to put his stamp on things and chance his arm a bit. Ideal scenario is getting 2-0 up and having the confidence to give people like Proctor & Love plenty of game time.

                                I would really be hoping that Proctor is in pole position and starts all three tests.

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                                @DMX said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                @Victor-Meldrew said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                @Bovidae said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                The pressure will be on Robertson and the ABs to win 3-0.

                                Hopefully people/press see the series as a real opportunity for Robertson to put his stamp on things and chance his arm a bit. Ideal scenario is getting 2-0 up and having the confidence to give people like Proctor & Love plenty of game time.

                                I would really be hoping that Proctor is in pole position and starts all three tests.

                                Don't think he will. Probably be Roigard/BB/JB/RI/WJ with Caleb Clarke & Reece on the wings to start Frog 1. Maybe Ratima/DMac will start. Conservative for first Test

                                Hopefully see Proctor& QT given plenty of game time and start in Frog 3

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                                • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                  @voodoo said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

                                  That was an absolute ripper of a series

                                  Will never forget it. Just 4 days after the second test at AAMI Park, Melbourne went into lockdown #5, having been off the leash for just a month.

                                  And the first test was moved from Sydney.

                                  Least we had some rugby to help us through that disgraceful time.

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                                  @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @voodoo said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  @KiwiMurph said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  Last time Lions did a tour in 2021 France sent a weakened squad to Australia and nearly won the series with 3 tests that all went down to the wire.

                                  That was an absolute ripper of a series

                                  Will never forget it. Just 4 days after the second test at AAMI Park, Melbourne went into lockdown #5, having been off the leash for just a month.

                                  And the first test was moved from Sydney.

                                  Least we had some rugby to help us through that disgraceful time.

                                  Dan Andrews is a fluffybunny.

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                                  • B brodean

                                    I asked Google Gemini to get the player attributes and positions of the squad.

                                    I have not verified for accuracy but have asked for links to all.rugby pages.

                                    Forwards

                                    Player Club Position Age Height Weight
                                    Props
                                    Demba Bamba Racing 92 Prop 27 1.85m 124kg
                                    Giorgi Beria USA Perpignan Prop 25 1.75m 108kg
                                    Georges-Henri Colombe La Rochelle Prop 27 1.88m 135kg
                                    Baptiste Erdocio Montpellier HR Prop 25 1.83m 115kg
                                    Paul Mallez Provence Rugby Prop 24 1.83m 120kg
                                    Régis Montagne ASM Clermont Prop 24 1.87m 120kg
                                    Rabah Slimani Leinster Rugby Prop 35 1.78m 115kg
                                    Hookers
                                    Gaëtan Barlot Castres Olympique Hooker 28 1.84m 107kg
                                    Pierre Bourgarit La Rochelle Hooker 27 1.84m 108kg
                                    Guillaume Marchand Lyon Rugby Hooker 26 1.83m 105kg
                                    Locks
                                    Hugo Auradou Pau Second Row 21 2.00m 100kg
                                    Tyler Duguid Montpellier HR Lock 24 2.01m 120kg
                                    Mickaël Guillard Lyon Rugby Lock 24 2.04m 115kg
                                    Matthias Halagahu RC Toulon Lock 23 2.02m 116kg
                                    Romain Taofifenua Racing 92 Lock 34 2.03m 135kg
                                    Théo William Lyon Rugby Lock 24 2.02m 118kg
                                    Flankers
                                    Esteban Abadie RC Toulon Flanker 27 1.88m 105kg
                                    Alexandre Fischer ASM Clermont Flanker 27 1.83m 97kg
                                    Killian Tixeront ASM Clermont Flanker 22 1.93m 100kg
                                    Jacobus Van Tonder USA Perpignan Flanker 27 1.93m 105kg
                                    Cameron Woki Racing 92 Flanker 26 1.96m 108kg

                                    Backs

                                    Player Club Position Age Height Weight
                                    Scrum-halves
                                    Thibault Daubagna Pau Scrum-half 31 1.76m 80kg
                                    Baptiste Jauneau ASM Clermont Scrum-half 21 1.75m 78kg
                                    Nolann Le Garrec Racing 92 Scrum-half 23 1.77m 80kg
                                    Fly-halves
                                    Léo Berdeu Lyon Rugby Fly-half 27 1.95m 95kg
                                    Antoine Hastoy La Rochelle Fly-half 28 1.80m 85kg
                                    Joris Segonds Bayonne Fly-half 28 1.80m 85kg
                                    Centres
                                    Léon Darricarrère ASM Clermont Centre 20 1.95m 100kg
                                    Gaël Fickou (c) Racing 92 Centre 31 1.90m 95kg
                                    Émilien Gailleton Pau Centre 21 1.85m 90kg
                                    Théo Millet Lyon Rugby Centre 27 1.85m 95kg
                                    Wings
                                    Théo Attissogbe Pau Wing 20 1.80m 80kg
                                    Alivereti Duguivalu USA Perpignan Wing 23 1.80m 90kg
                                    Cheikh Tiberghien Bayonne Wing 24 1.80m 85kg
                                    Gabin Villière RC Toulon Wing 29 1.80m 90kg
                                    Fullbacks
                                    Léo Barré Stade Français Fullback 22 1.91m 87kg
                                    Tom Spring Bayonne Fullback 22 1.85m 85kg
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                                    Darren
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                                    @brodean

                                    If those stats are correct, thats a pretty massive tight 5

                                    All their locks are above 2.00m

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                                      Overall there seems to be some height and weight in the locks/backrow.

                                      The backs don't seem particularly big.

                                      There are not too many very young players. There are a lot of players in their mid twenties which should be hitting their peak.

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                                      @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                      Overall there seems to be some height and weight in the locks/backrow.

                                      The backs don't seem particularly big.

                                      There are not too many very young players. There are a lot of players in their mid twenties which should be hitting their peak.

                                      Actually I thought the flankers look on paper tall but light and apart from locks and some props that looks like a very light team. Probably very fast though

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                                      • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                                        @DMX said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                        @Bovidae said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        The pressure will be on Robertson and the ABs to win 3-0.

                                        Hopefully people/press see the series as a real opportunity for Robertson to put his stamp on things and chance his arm a bit. Ideal scenario is getting 2-0 up and having the confidence to give people like Proctor & Love plenty of game time.

                                        I would really be hoping that Proctor is in pole position and starts all three tests.

                                        Don't think he will. Probably be Roigard/BB/JB/RI/WJ with Caleb Clarke & Reece on the wings to start Frog 1. Maybe Ratima/DMac will start. Conservative for first Test

                                        Hopefully see Proctor& QT given plenty of game time and start in Frog 3

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                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                        @DMX said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                        @Victor-Meldrew said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                        @Bovidae said in 2025 All Blacks Squad v France:

                                        The pressure will be on Robertson and the ABs to win 3-0.

                                        Hopefully people/press see the series as a real opportunity for Robertson to put his stamp on things and chance his arm a bit. Ideal scenario is getting 2-0 up and having the confidence to give people like Proctor & Love plenty of game time.

                                        I would really be hoping that Proctor is in pole position and starts all three tests.

                                        Don't think he will. Probably be Roigard/BB/JB/RI/WJ with Caleb Clarke & Reece on the wings to start Frog 1. Maybe Ratima/DMac will start. Conservative for first Test

                                        Hopefully see Proctor& QT given plenty of game time and start in Frog 3

                                        You may be right but it would be disappointing to me. I think this is the perfect time to give him an extended run.

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                                          @brodean

                                          If those stats are correct, thats a pretty massive tight 5

                                          All their locks are above 2.00m

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                                          @Darren said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                          @brodean

                                          If those stats are correct, thats a pretty massive tight 5

                                          All their locks are above 2.00m

                                          They're not, at least two of them are quite a bit shorter than that.

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