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2025 All Blacks v France series

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    #919

    According to the Breakdown last night Proctor looks to be the favoured to start at 13. Great news.

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      They seem to be more explosive than Blackadder:

      Dominant Carry %
      43.8 Luke Jacobson
      34.3 Dalton Papali'i
      29.4 Tupou Vaa'i
      27.8 Scott Barrett
      13.8 Ethan Blackadder
      ( has to carry 201 times to Scott Barrett's 100 to have the same amount of dominant carries )

      Gainline %
      65.9 Tupou Vaa'i
      65.8 Luke Jacobson
      63.0 Dalton Papali'i
      54.5 Scott Barrett
      34.1 Ethan Blackadder
      ( has to carry 158 times to Scott Barrett's 100 to get over the gainline the same amount of times )

      Tackle Evasion %
      22.8 Dalton Papali'i
      19.5 Luke Jacobson
      11.6 Tupou Vaa'i
      8.1 Scott Barrett
      2.5 Ethan Blackadder
      ( has to carry 324 times to Scott Barrett's 100 to evade the same amount of tackles )

      In that interview today Razor mentioned footwork as being important and it seems like Blackadder doesn't really have any footwork.

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      @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

      @reprobate

      They seem to be more explosive than Blackadder:

      Dominant Carry %
      43.8 Luke Jacobson
      34.3 Dalton Papali'i
      29.4 Tupou Vaa'i
      27.8 Scott Barrett
      13.8 Ethan Blackadder
      ( has to carry 201 times to Scott Barrett's 100 to have the same amount of dominant carries )

      Gainline %
      65.9 Tupou Vaa'i
      65.8 Luke Jacobson
      63.0 Dalton Papali'i
      54.5 Scott Barrett
      34.1 Ethan Blackadder
      ( has to carry 158 times to Scott Barrett's 100 to get over the gainline the same amount of times )

      Tackle Evasion %
      22.8 Dalton Papali'i
      19.5 Luke Jacobson
      11.6 Tupou Vaa'i
      8.1 Scott Barrett
      2.5 Ethan Blackadder
      ( has to carry 324 times to Scott Barrett's 100 to evade the same amount of tackles )

      In that interview today Razor mentioned footwork as being important and it seems like Blackadder doesn't really have any footwork.

      You're either missing or evading the point bro: these guys just aren't explosive players. If that's actually what we want, none of them should be selected - so it's a bullshit argument.
      It's like saying Scott Barrett is being selected over Delaney because we want our locks to be lineout targets.

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        @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

        @reprobate

        They seem to be more explosive than Blackadder:

        Dominant Carry %
        43.8 Luke Jacobson
        34.3 Dalton Papali'i
        29.4 Tupou Vaa'i
        27.8 Scott Barrett
        13.8 Ethan Blackadder
        ( has to carry 201 times to Scott Barrett's 100 to have the same amount of dominant carries )

        Gainline %
        65.9 Tupou Vaa'i
        65.8 Luke Jacobson
        63.0 Dalton Papali'i
        54.5 Scott Barrett
        34.1 Ethan Blackadder
        ( has to carry 158 times to Scott Barrett's 100 to get over the gainline the same amount of times )

        Tackle Evasion %
        22.8 Dalton Papali'i
        19.5 Luke Jacobson
        11.6 Tupou Vaa'i
        8.1 Scott Barrett
        2.5 Ethan Blackadder
        ( has to carry 324 times to Scott Barrett's 100 to evade the same amount of tackles )

        In that interview today Razor mentioned footwork as being important and it seems like Blackadder doesn't really have any footwork.

        You're either missing or evading the point bro: these guys just aren't explosive players. If that's actually what we want, none of them should be selected - so it's a bullshit argument.
        It's like saying Scott Barrett is being selected over Delaney because we want our locks to be lineout targets.

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        @reprobate

        You're the one ignoring the obvious.

        They're all explosive compared to Blackadder.

        Btw you can't compare Blackadder to McCaw. McCaw had played 100 tests by Blackadders age to Blackadders 14.

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          @reprobate

          You're the one ignoring the obvious.

          They're all explosive compared to Blackadder.

          Btw you can't compare Blackadder to McCaw. McCaw had played 100 tests by Blackadders age to Blackadders 14.

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          @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

          @reprobate

          You're the one ignoring the obvious.

          They're all explosive compared to Blackadder.

          Btw you can't compare Blackadder to McCaw. McCaw had played 100 tests by Blackadders age to Blackadders 14.

          Finau is explosive. Jacobson, Papalii (as cover for Jacobson), Barrett and Vaai simply are not - so it's pretty hard to take the statement seriously.
          You can keep your McCaw straw man too thanks.

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            @Callcentre-Spunk said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

            Tackle Evasion %
            34.6 Veveni Lasaqa

            Gainline %
            73.6 Veveni Lasaqa

            Dominant Carry %
            44.2 Veveni Lasaqa!

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            My impression is he doesn't do enough in the defensive side of the game.

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            @antipodean how do you get those stats???

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              @antipodean how do you get those stats???

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              @mikeyyy said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

              @antipodean how do you get those stats???

              They're @brodean's - he's says where he gets them from here: https://www.forum.thesilverfern.com/post/1056306

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                Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

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                  Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

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                  @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                  Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

                  Likely to be one other ruled out as well.

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                    Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

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                    @Landers92 bugger

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                      @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                      @reprobate

                      You're the one ignoring the obvious.

                      They're all explosive compared to Blackadder.

                      Btw you can't compare Blackadder to McCaw. McCaw had played 100 tests by Blackadders age to Blackadders 14.

                      Finau is explosive. Jacobson, Papalii (as cover for Jacobson), Barrett and Vaai simply are not - so it's pretty hard to take the statement seriously.
                      You can keep your McCaw straw man too thanks.

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                      @reprobate

                      Explosiveness isn't binary. It's a spectrum.

                      All of those players have various levels of explosiveness to their carry - even Blackadder. They're all more explosive compared to Blackadder.

                      The selectors have said they want to see more explosiveness.

                      We will have to agree to disagree.

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                      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                        @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                        Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

                        Likely to be one other ruled out as well.

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                        @ACT-Crusader

                        Newell?

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                          @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                          Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

                          Likely to be one other ruled out as well.

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                          @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                          @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                          Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

                          Likely to be one other ruled out as well.

                          who?

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                            Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

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                            @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                            Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

                            Fuck.

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                              Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

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                              @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                              Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

                              So shouldn't have played the final.

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                                Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

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                                @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

                                Hopefully they are just being cautious with an understrength French side and have him rearing to go vs the Boks.

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                                    He uses a lot of hairspray to keep that combover in place

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                                      Bower going to sing a sweet lullaby to the french front row.

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                                        He is a bizarre interviewee.

                                        On about Bowers singing ability.

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                                        • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                          @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                          Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

                                          Likely to be one other ruled out as well.

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                                          @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                          @Landers92 said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                          Tamaiti Williams is ruled out for the French series. Bower called in

                                          Likely to be one other ruled out as well.

                                          Yeah Newell

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