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All Blacks v France I

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  • F frugby

    I’d really like to see Vaa’i given the whole series at 6. If they want to try it, then give it a decent sample size, so we can actually get a read on if it is a good idea.

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    I’d really like to see Vaa’i given the whole series at 6. If they want to try it, then give it a decent sample size, so we can actually get a read on if it is a good idea.

    Yeah, when he has played 6 before he was underwhelming.

    But then he had a breakout year last year where he was one of the top performing locks in the world so keen to see if he can bring that improvement and confidence to 6 jersey.

    3 tests there will be a good sample size to see if it is worth continuing for the TRC

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      I actually like the size of the scrum, I agree with Mex on this one. I really hope That Tupou Vaii has a blinder, and can be a permanent option there. Funny how we went from looking like a small back row two weeks ago to one that can compete with anyone physically. Happy to see Proctor, hopefully he gets a long run. Weakest point is our wings, I don’t think they will be strong in the air, and not sure if Rieko has retained his pace and from what we have seen at test level Reece is wanting for pace. I expect Tupea and Jordan will finish up on the wings bar injury.

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      @DMX

      How do you know its a backrow that can compete with anyone physically when it's never played together before, 1 player is a debutant, and 1 is starting a test at 6 for the 2nd time?

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      • BonesB Bones

        Looks like the first five is pretty quick.

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        @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

        Looks like the first five is pretty quick.

        What you did there. I see it.

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          @DMX

          How do you know its a backrow that can compete with anyone physically when it's never played together before, 1 player is a debutant, and 1 is starting a test at 6 for the 2nd time?

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          @brodean said in All Blacks v France I:

          @DMX

          How do you know its a backrow that can compete with anyone physically when it's never played together before, 1 player is a debutant, and 1 is starting a test at 6 for the 2nd time?

          You are not contradicting anything I said. Physically they match up to Test back rows of our rivals , whether they combine as a unit we will see.

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          • KiwiMurphK KiwiMurph

            Christian Lio Willie speaks well. Doesn't sound like an overawed debutant. Excited to see him go at 8.

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            @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France I:

            Christian Lio Willie speaks well. Doesn't sound like an overawed debutant. Excited to see him go at 8.

            Isn't he a doctor or something?

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              @frugby said in All Blacks v France I:

              I’d really like to see Vaa’i given the whole series at 6. If they want to try it, then give it a decent sample size, so we can actually get a read on if it is a good idea.

              Yeah, when he has played 6 before he was underwhelming.

              But then he had a breakout year last year where he was one of the top performing locks in the world so keen to see if he can bring that improvement and confidence to 6 jersey.

              3 tests there will be a good sample size to see if it is worth continuing for the TRC

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              @DaGrubster said in All Blacks v France I:

              But then he had a breakout year last year where he was one of the top performing locks in the world so keen to see if he can bring that improvement and confidence to 6 jersey.

              Worth a shot, but won't have a problem if it doesn't work/pan out. Robertson can always put him back to being one of the top performing locks in the world

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              • Victor MeldrewV Victor Meldrew

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France I:

                Christian Lio Willie speaks well. Doesn't sound like an overawed debutant. Excited to see him go at 8.

                Isn't he a doctor or something?

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                @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v France I:

                @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France I:

                Christian Lio Willie speaks well. Doesn't sound like an overawed debutant. Excited to see him go at 8.

                Isn't he a doctor or something?

                Qualified dentist

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                • F Frank

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v France I:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France I:

                  Christian Lio Willie speaks well. Doesn't sound like an overawed debutant. Excited to see him go at 8.

                  Isn't he a doctor or something?

                  Qualified dentist

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                  @Frank said in All Blacks v France I:

                  @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v France I:

                  @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France I:

                  Christian Lio Willie speaks well. Doesn't sound like an overawed debutant. Excited to see him go at 8.

                  Isn't he a doctor or something?

                  Qualified dentist

                  You'd think he'd be throwing out a few more high tackles then eh.

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                  • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs France, Test One, Dunedin:

                    @Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks Vs France, Test One, Dunedin:

                    @Jet said in All Blacks Vs France, Test One, Dunedin:

                    Been plenty of chat on fora such as this over the last few years looking for Rieko to go back to the wing and for Ardie to go to 7.

                    A damning indictment on the last two coaching tickets that the "bar stoolers" were right all along.

                    We don't know we were right yet though.

                    Hasn't stopped premature celebration before so I don't expect it to disappear now.

                    hello wife i didn't know you posted here

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                    @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France I:

                    @nostrildamus said in All Blacks Vs France, Test One, Dunedin:

                    Hasn't stopped premature celebration before so I don't expect it to disappear now.

                    hello wife i didn't know you posted here

                    you were too busy celebrating to notice.

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                    • F Frank

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v France I:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France I:

                      Christian Lio Willie speaks well. Doesn't sound like an overawed debutant. Excited to see him go at 8.

                      Isn't he a doctor or something?

                      Qualified dentist

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                      @Frank said in All Blacks v France I:

                      @Victor-Meldrew said in All Blacks v France I:

                      @KiwiMurph said in All Blacks v France I:

                      Christian Lio Willie speaks well. Doesn't sound like an overawed debutant. Excited to see him go at 8.

                      Isn't he a doctor or something?

                      Qualified dentist

                      Makes sense.

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                        A huge 6-2 bench -

                        France team to face the All Blacks
                        France: 15 Theo Attissogbe, 14 Tom Spring, 13 Emilien Gailleton, 12 Gael Fickou (c), 11 Gabin Villière, 10 Joris Segonds, 9 Nolann Le Garrec, 8 Mickael Guillard, 7 Killian Tixeront, 6 Alexandre Fischer, 5 Tyler Duguid, 4 Hugo Auradou, 3 Rabah Slimani, 2 Gaetan Barlot, 1 Giorgi Beria
                        Replacements: 16 Pierre Bourgarit, 17 Paul Mallez, 18 Regis Montagne, 19 Romain Taofifenua, 20 Cameron Woki, 21 Jacobus van Tonder, 22 Baptiste Jauneau, 23 Antoine Hastoy

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                        @Daffy-Jaffy said in All Blacks v France I:

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                        A huge 6-2 bench -

                        France team to face the All Blacks
                        France: 15 Theo Attissogbe, 14 Tom Spring, 13 Emilien Gailleton, 12 Gael Fickou (c), 11 Gabin Villière, 10 Joris Segonds, 9 Nolann Le Garrec, 8 Mickael Guillard, 7 Killian Tixeront, 6 Alexandre Fischer, 5 Tyler Duguid, 4 Hugo Auradou, 3 Rabah Slimani, 2 Gaetan Barlot, 1 Giorgi Beria
                        Replacements: 16 Pierre Bourgarit, 17 Paul Mallez, 18 Regis Montagne, 19 Romain Taofifenua, 20 Cameron Woki, 21 Jacobus van Tonder, 22 Baptiste Jauneau, 23 Antoine Hastoy

                        Squat props. Scrum will pack low.

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                        • Daffy JaffyD Daffy Jaffy

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                          A huge 6-2 bench -

                          France team to face the All Blacks
                          France: 15 Theo Attissogbe, 14 Tom Spring, 13 Emilien Gailleton, 12 Gael Fickou (c), 11 Gabin Villière, 10 Joris Segonds, 9 Nolann Le Garrec, 8 Mickael Guillard, 7 Killian Tixeront, 6 Alexandre Fischer, 5 Tyler Duguid, 4 Hugo Auradou, 3 Rabah Slimani, 2 Gaetan Barlot, 1 Giorgi Beria
                          Replacements: 16 Pierre Bourgarit, 17 Paul Mallez, 18 Regis Montagne, 19 Romain Taofifenua, 20 Cameron Woki, 21 Jacobus van Tonder, 22 Baptiste Jauneau, 23 Antoine Hastoy

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                          @Daffy-Jaffy Is Giorgi Beria any relation to Lavrentiy Beria?

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                            France with their own bomb squad with Taofifenua and Woki on the bench.

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                            • BonesB Bones

                              Looks like the first five is pretty quick.

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                              @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

                              Looks like the first five is pretty quick.

                              Might have been better if he was playing openside flanker ( think about it )

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                              • sparkyS sparky

                                @Daffy-Jaffy Is Giorgi Beria any relation to Lavrentiy Beria?

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                                @sparky said in All Blacks v France I:

                                @Daffy-Jaffy Is Giorgi Beria any relation to Lavrentiy Beria?

                                I just wasted 15 minutes checking, thanks. Apparently Beria is a relatively common name in Georgia.

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                                • sparkyS sparky

                                  @Daffy-Jaffy Is Giorgi Beria any relation to Lavrentiy Beria?

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                                  @sparky or Yogi Beria?

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                                    I suspect a lot of posters haven't watched much of the Blues this year, but Beauden was one of their best and they wouldn't have made the play offs without him. I made the comment about a month or so back that people would be triggered when he gets named at 10 for this match and was told I was just trolling, but he has actually been very good this year.

                                    I have no issues with him starting this match, but as people have pointed out age isn't on his side so they will need to have an eye to towards developing a younger player for the next RWC. That said, I am not a big fan of a coaches plans having to revolve around a 4 year RWC cycle, it leads us down the path of anything outside of it is just a "friendly" which would be a bad thing for rugby overall.

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                                    • BonesB Bones

                                      Looks like the first five is pretty quick.

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                                      @Bones said in All Blacks v France I:

                                      Looks like the first five is pretty quick.

                                      And their right wing has got some real bounce

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                                      • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                        I suspect a lot of posters haven't watched much of the Blues this year, but Beauden was one of their best and they wouldn't have made the play offs without him. I made the comment about a month or so back that people would be triggered when he gets named at 10 for this match and was told I was just trolling, but he has actually been very good this year.

                                        I have no issues with him starting this match, but as people have pointed out age isn't on his side so they will need to have an eye to towards developing a younger player for the next RWC. That said, I am not a big fan of a coaches plans having to revolve around a 4 year RWC cycle, it leads us down the path of anything outside of it is just a "friendly" which would be a bad thing for rugby overall.

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                                        @No-Quarter

                                        I watched him and the backline was barely functional for most of the time except near the business end. A lot of what he creates is for himself.

                                        It's no coincidence that the Blues won their two titles in the twenties when he was on sabbatical.

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                                        • No QuarterN No Quarter

                                          I suspect a lot of posters haven't watched much of the Blues this year, but Beauden was one of their best and they wouldn't have made the play offs without him. I made the comment about a month or so back that people would be triggered when he gets named at 10 for this match and was told I was just trolling, but he has actually been very good this year.

                                          I have no issues with him starting this match, but as people have pointed out age isn't on his side so they will need to have an eye to towards developing a younger player for the next RWC. That said, I am not a big fan of a coaches plans having to revolve around a 4 year RWC cycle, it leads us down the path of anything outside of it is just a "friendly" which would be a bad thing for rugby overall.

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                                          @No-Quarter said in All Blacks v France I:

                                          I suspect a lot of posters haven't watched much of the Blues this year, but Beauden was one of their best and they wouldn't have made the play offs without him. I made the comment about a month or so back that people would be triggered when he gets named at 10 for this match and was told I was just trolling, but he has actually been very good this year.

                                          I have no issues with him starting this match, but as people have pointed out age isn't on his side so they will need to have an eye to towards developing a younger player for the next RWC. That said, I am not a big fan of a coaches plans having to revolve around a 4 year RWC cycle, it leads us down the path of anything outside of it is just a "friendly" which would be a bad thing for rugby overall.

                                          Yeah I watched all the Blues games Barrett did play well for the Blues apart from the odd silly mistake.
                                          But can he convert it to the internationals,Someone has to him or D Mac or we will not win the tough games.
                                          We badly need another couple of younger first fives to stand up we need more depth.
                                          Maybe Reihana can with another year driving the ship at the Crusaders as a back up player.
                                          Jacomb seems have gone backwards to me.

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