All Blacks v France I
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France C did well
France B next week
@MiketheSnow said in All Blacks v France I:
France C did well
France B next week
The ABs will repeat the eternal pattern of being a bit flat week 1 and then cut loose weeks 2 onward
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Kind of what I half expected, but hoped for more. I doubted whether there was ever going to be a walkover (even if I wanted it). Was real stoked with my man Holland, and saw nothing to dissuade me of my idea he will be a 100 test AB. The CLW went well. I thought most went ok without setting world on fire. Proctor looked more comfortable in 2nd half.
Just saw the interview with Holland, his Dad is just gazing at him with a look of just such pride. -
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v France I:
Geez squeaky bum time. James Doleman man of the match for France for sure.
Unless I'm missing something, the TMO was Brett Cronin?
@NTA said in All Blacks v France I:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v France I:
Geez squeaky bum time. James Doleman man of the match for France for sure.
Unless I'm missing something, the TMO was Brett Cronin?
No Damon Murphy was Cronin was there to judge whether YCs would be updated. must be a new thing.
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Hey, at least our win rate against the French is now up to 25% from the last 4 games
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Wasn’t a vintage ABs performance tonight but they always seem to be rusty in the first one. I feel like a few of the newbies can put their first test behind them and move on. Expecting a much better performance next week.
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In my opinion the loose forward balance missed Blackadder greatly, either starting or off the bench.
@AmberArmy said in All Blacks v France I:
In my opinion the loose forward balance missed Blackadder greatly, either starting or off the bench.
Great call. You can never have too much ineffectiveness in a team
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@AmberArmy said in All Blacks v France I:
In my opinion the loose forward balance missed Blackadder greatly, either starting or off the bench.
Great call. You can never have too much ineffectiveness in a team
@MN5 said in All Blacks v France I:
@AmberArmy said in All Blacks v France I:
In my opinion the loose forward balance missed Blackadder greatly, either starting or off the bench.
Great call. You can never have too much ineffectiveness in a team
Other than his patented 5 minutes per game highlights reel, I tend to include Ardie in that mix
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For us -
Excellent - Jordie
Good - CLW looked pretty busy, Holland (though does go to ground easily for a big man), Ardie, Roigard, Newell.
Questionable - Rieko, Proctor, Finau -
Well done France, put a few commentators in thier box about disrespect.
An ugly win win is still a win, some very promising stuff, but equally some concerning stuff too
@taniwharugby said in All Blacks v France I:
Well done France, put a few commentators in thier box about disrespect.
An ugly win win is still a win, some very promising stuff, but equally some concerning stuff too
It still would have been disrespect if they had of won.
A squad of dirt trackers, are dirt trackers regardless of the result.
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Wasn’t a vintage ABs performance tonight but they always seem to be rusty in the first one. I feel like a few of the newbies can put their first test behind them and move on. Expecting a much better performance next week.
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@NTA said in All Blacks v France I:
@Darth-Sader said in All Blacks v France I:
You have to admire the French being right in this. They looked like they were out for the count several times there. How the hell is this so close??
Uncontroversial opinion: playing AU and NZ sort sides is no preparation for the physicality of French Rugby
I know the point you're making, but some of the most physical rugby I've seen was during the NZ only Super during Covid.
Clearly having Aussie teams softens us a bit.
@Nepia said in All Blacks v France I:
I know the point you're making, but some of the most physical rugby I've seen was during the NZ only Super during Covid.
See how far you've slipped? :grimacing_face:
I know your point you're making, but we're a few years beyond that and IMHO the lessons learned are being diluted.
Because what else happened around COVID Time? Saffer teams stopped playing Super Rugby. So you were just coming off that experience, and no shock you were still at a high level in physicality terms.
The NZ Rugby machine has gone into a cycle of what works for regular games against our sides: pace and precision. You're more physical than ours by dint of a larger playing pool and systems that haven't eroded as much as ours (yet). You simply don't need to try to outmuscle us, because you're doing it by default.
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@NTA said in All Blacks v France I:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v France I:
Geez squeaky bum time. James Doleman man of the match for France for sure.
Unless I'm missing something, the TMO was Brett Cronin?
No Damon Murphy was Cronin was there to judge whether YCs would be updated. must be a new thing.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v France I:
@NTA said in All Blacks v France I:
@Yeetyaah said in All Blacks v France I:
Geez squeaky bum time. James Doleman man of the match for France for sure.
Unless I'm missing something, the TMO was Brett Cronin?
No Damon Murphy was Cronin was there to judge whether YCs would be updated. must be a new thing.
Makes sense for the yellow cards under review - TMO can't be everywhere, tho it feels like it some times.
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@Canes4life Generally true, but even I thought Billy Prcotor was poor tonight.
@sparky said in All Blacks v France I:
@Canes4life Generally true, but even I thought Billy Prcotor was poor tonight.
Surely you start him again, it’s literally his first start. He’ll only going to get better as he gets more comfortable.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France I:
@Canes4life Generally true, but even I thought Billy Prcotor was poor tonight.
Surely you start him again, it’s literally his first start. He’ll only going to get better as he gets more comfortable.
@Canes4life said in All Blacks v France I:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France I:
@Canes4life Generally true, but even I thought Billy Prcotor was poor tonight.
Surely you start him again, it’s literally his first start. He’ll only going to get better as he gets more comfortable.
He started vs Fiji last year didn't he?
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So did Billy Proctor do anything that Rieko wouldn't have done at centre? Like, I'm sure he'll get another go there, but I was underwhelmed by what I saw of him.
Roigard was good, Lio-Willie looked alright (probably the best of the newbies), unsure about Finau and Kirifi, happy to see them persevered with for a bit, but Kirifi looked well undersized out there (as we expected), Ardie
is such a weird player.....carries plenty, and well, but it's weird that he has 7 on his back as he certainly does not play like one, tight 5 were largely good (including the bench), BB and DMac had theur moments, Jordie had a solid outing and Rieko went alright in the first half, cold in the 2nd.I think they run it back with most of them. We're always rusty first up.
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Are the TMOs on commission for spotting errors leading up to All Blacks tries? I can wear the Newell knock-on and Proctor not controlling the ball on the line, but the ruling on the third Jordan try was dodgy. Anyone thinking this is just paranoia needs to read Ian Foster’s biography. World Rugby is corrupt. And it has everything to do with the weight of money in the north.
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