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2025 All Blacks v France series

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  • M Mr Fish

    Imagine it will be a very similar team for the second game. Maybe Clarke comes in for Reece and possibly a change or two on the bench depending on injuries. Don't think Vaa'i is the answer at 6 but sounds like Razor will persist for these three Tests.

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    @Mr-Fish Vaa'i should be starting at lock. He is in no way a 6.

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    • M Mr Fish

      Imagine it will be a very similar team for the second game. Maybe Clarke comes in for Reece and possibly a change or two on the bench depending on injuries. Don't think Vaa'i is the answer at 6 but sounds like Razor will persist for these three Tests.

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      @Mr-Fish said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

      Imagine it will be a very similar team for the second game. Maybe Clarke comes in for Reece and possibly a change or two on the bench depending on injuries. Don't think Vaa'i is the answer at 6 but sounds like Razor will persist for these three Tests.

      I’d give Narawa a run on the right wing.

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        I haven't read the match thread but if SB's achilles is a problem, and Vaa'i has a sore shoulder there might be injury-enforced changes in the forwards. I'd like Narawa to get a go on the right wing.

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        • BovidaeB Bovidae

          I haven't read the match thread but if SB's achilles is a problem, and Vaa'i has a sore shoulder there might be injury-enforced changes in the forwards. I'd like Narawa to get a go on the right wing.

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          @Bovidae

          4- Tuipoluto
          5- Holland
          6- Finau
          7- Savea
          8- CLW

          Gulp.

          Shrink appointments in NZ will skyrocket!

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            @Bovidae

            4- Tuipoluto
            5- Holland
            6- Finau
            7- Savea
            8- CLW

            Gulp.

            Shrink appointments in NZ will skyrocket!

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            @ACT-Crusader Only Tuipulotu should be starting from that mob. Papalii would add some starch to that garbage loose trio.

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              CLW was ok, but Finau was pretty anonymous again tonight I thought, not sure he deserves another go

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              • Darth SaderD Darth Sader

                CLW was ok, but Finau was pretty anonymous again tonight I thought, not sure he deserves another go

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                @Darth-Sader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                CLW was ok

                Yep, as a grafter he was fine. Carried okay. Looked like he was involved frequently. Fucking low bar. Still a lot better than the other clowns.

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                  Are the coaches just spreadsheet maxing and don't realize that every other test coach can do that too?

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                    CLW hit the tackle pretty hard and slowed down plenty of French ball. Thought he was very effective.

                    He even did a Kaino on Digny Ioane to one of the Frenchies.

                    If it was based on performance alone, they probably should’ve kept CLW on and replaced Ardie.

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                    • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                      CLW hit the tackle pretty hard and slowed down plenty of French ball. Thought he was very effective.

                      He even did a Kaino on Digny Ioane to one of the Frenchies.

                      If it was based on performance alone, they probably should’ve kept CLW on and replaced Ardie.

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                      @ACT-Crusader I will watch a replay.

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                      • TimT Tim

                        @Darth-Sader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                        CLW was ok

                        Yep, as a grafter he was fine. Carried okay. Looked like he was involved frequently. Fucking low bar. Still a lot better than the other clowns.

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                        @Tim CLW did ok and, given where we're at, he deserves another outing.

                        But I am convinced he's going to be a significantly better Test 8 than Akira Ioane or Hoskins Sotutu? Not yet.

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                          I thought CLW was good - not sure he'll compete with the bigger loosies around the world but he did well in his first outing.

                          Narawa is only injury cover so would be surprised if he gets a run ahead of Reece, Clarke, Ioane or even potentially Love. Would like to see it though.

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                            If Tangitau was fit he probably would be in the squad. He’s got x-factor with speed and a step. Only question is his ability under the high ball. Defensively he should be fine.

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                              Robertson confirms that Sevu Reece is out for next week.

                              But the press pack forgot to ask him if there were any other injury concerns. 🤦‍♂️

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                              • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

                                CLW hit the tackle pretty hard and slowed down plenty of French ball. Thought he was very effective.

                                He even did a Kaino on Digny Ioane to one of the Frenchies.

                                If it was based on performance alone, they probably should’ve kept CLW on and replaced Ardie.

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                                @ACT-Crusader said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                CLW hit the tackle pretty hard and slowed down plenty of French ball. Thought he was very effective.

                                He even did a Kaino on Digny Ioane to one of the Frenchies.

                                If it was based on performance alone, they probably should’ve kept CLW on and replaced Ardie.

                                Completely agree. That was a good debut.

                                He did fade in the 2nd half but that's Completely normal on debut.

                                But he was very good in the first 40.

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                                • M Mr Fish

                                  I thought CLW was good - not sure he'll compete with the bigger loosies around the world but he did well in his first outing.

                                  Narawa is only injury cover so would be surprised if he gets a run ahead of Reece, Clarke, Ioane or even potentially Love. Would like to see it though.

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                                  @Mr-Fish said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                  I thought CLW was good

                                  What did he do well? Some ok carrying, some hitting rucks, ineffectual tackling. If that is "good" for an AB 8 then we are in serious trouble.

                                  That was France C.

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                                    brodean
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                                    I can't seriously say any of it was good except for Holland.

                                    It was France C.

                                    The rugby was helter skelter and lacked composure.

                                    The width game isn't working so far . We're running around like headless chooks at a million miles an hour and then making bad decisions.

                                    We turned the ball over 16 times to their 12. Given the amount of test experience we have compared to them, and that it was a home game, it was poor.

                                    The support play was poor. It was more of the same we saw last year against France and South Africa.

                                    Let's not forget we were playing a scratch team of noobs and journeymen and barely got the job done.

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                                    • B brodean

                                      I can't seriously say any of it was good except for Holland.

                                      It was France C.

                                      The rugby was helter skelter and lacked composure.

                                      The width game isn't working so far . We're running around like headless chooks at a million miles an hour and then making bad decisions.

                                      We turned the ball over 16 times to their 12. Given the amount of test experience we have compared to them, and that it was a home game, it was poor.

                                      The support play was poor. It was more of the same we saw last year against France and South Africa.

                                      Let's not forget we were playing a scratch team of noobs and journeymen and barely got the job done.

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                                      @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                      We turned the ball over 16 times to their 12

                                      12 seems like a lot of times to turn over the ball for a team with fuck all possession and no BB/WJ.

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                                      • BonesB Bones

                                        @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                        We turned the ball over 16 times to their 12

                                        12 seems like a lot of times to turn over the ball for a team with fuck all possession and no BB/WJ.

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                                        @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                        @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                        We turned the ball over 16 times to their 12

                                        12 seems like a lot of times to turn over the ball for a team with fuck all possession and no BB/WJ.

                                        27 points seems a lot of points for a team to concede when they have 62% possession.

                                        That try Gulliard scored was soft as butter. They made a break and we can only defend 1 forward carry close to the line before he powers over.

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                                        • B brodean

                                          @Bones said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                          @brodean said in 2025 All Blacks v France series:

                                          We turned the ball over 16 times to their 12

                                          12 seems like a lot of times to turn over the ball for a team with fuck all possession and no BB/WJ.

                                          27 points seems a lot of points for a team to concede when they have 62% possession.

                                          That try Gulliard scored was soft as butter. They made a break and we can only defend 1 forward carry close to the line before he powers over.

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                                          @brodean agree wholeheartedly, although quite apart from turnovers.

                                          Surprised we weren't more dominant in possession though, however when you take that stat into consideration it's not that bad (if you balance it out with rust Vs inexperience).

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