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  • BonesB Bones

    @MajorRage the flip side would be Max shouldn't be accelerating at such a great rate when he's flying blind, but yeah it wasn't a good look in those conditions.

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    @Bones said in Formula 1:

    @MajorRage the flip side would be Max shouldn't be accelerating at such a great rate when he's flying blind, but yeah it wasn't a good look in those conditions.

    Max played it, 100%. The comms were clear that Max needed hot tyres, so Piastri's play was to slow it right down so Max' tyres would cool. He's well within his rights to do that, but the stewards deemed he was too aggressive which put it into erratic territory.

    I'm fairly sure the safe braking for the Red Bull meant the huge pass that Max did at the time was purely a show to get the stewards on side and it worked a treat.

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    • MajorPomM MajorPom

      Awesome jam packed with entertainment British GP. After a few months of blistering sunshine, the rain of course made its second appearance (since the last bank holiday) to disrupt things.

      Crap for our man Lawson, shunted off by a racing incident in one of the first corners. 3 cars trying to go around a corner, Lawson wasn't to know what that the third car was there. At least Tsunoda came dead last proving once again what we all hoped, the problem was the car, not the driver.

      McLaren dominance up front. Piastri's race really but he fucked up a post safety car. He can whinge, cry, moan as much as he wanted, and yes I'm sure Max played it a bit, but he did lose 100mph of speed by aggressive braking behind the safety car, rules say you can't do that, so suck it up.

      Norris therefore gets his home GP win and boy was he happy and emotional about it. Now only 8 points behind Piastri, the race is back on.

      But of course the biggest news for Hulkenberg. Finally gets a podium in his 239th attempt. It's impossible not to be happy for him, his team played a blinder, pitting to perfection in amongst the inclement weather. Amazing day for him.

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      @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

      Now only 8 points behind Piastri, the race is back on.

      Looking forward to the inevitable falling out as tension increases

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        The braking by Piastri was double the braking pressure applied by Russell at the previous incident and a massive departure from that Piastri did the previous laps.

        In the conditions it was a matter of skill that prevented Max ramming up the arse of Oscar.

        The penalty was deserved.

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          Horner sacked by Red Bull.

          Sheesh, if Max goes they are in deep trouble. No Horner or Newey is already going to be huge change. I note the Racing Bulls boss has been "promoted" to Red Bull as well. Interesting times ahead there. Turmoil is good for other teams tho!

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          • MajorPomM MajorPom

            Horner sacked by Red Bull.

            Sheesh, if Max goes they are in deep trouble. No Horner or Newey is already going to be huge change. I note the Racing Bulls boss has been "promoted" to Red Bull as well. Interesting times ahead there. Turmoil is good for other teams tho!

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            canefan
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            @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

            Horner sacked by Red Bull.

            Sheesh, if Max goes they are in deep trouble. No Horner or Newey is already going to be huge change. I note the Racing Bulls boss has been "promoted" to Red Bull as well. Interesting times ahead there. Turmoil is good for other teams tho!

            Max might see RB in decline, he appears to have one foot edging for the door

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            • canefanC canefan

              @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

              Horner sacked by Red Bull.

              Sheesh, if Max goes they are in deep trouble. No Horner or Newey is already going to be huge change. I note the Racing Bulls boss has been "promoted" to Red Bull as well. Interesting times ahead there. Turmoil is good for other teams tho!

              Max might see RB in decline, he appears to have one foot edging for the door

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              @canefan said in Formula 1:

              @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

              Horner sacked by Red Bull.

              Sheesh, if Max goes they are in deep trouble. No Horner or Newey is already going to be huge change. I note the Racing Bulls boss has been "promoted" to Red Bull as well. Interesting times ahead there. Turmoil is good for other teams tho!

              Max might see RB in decline, he appears to have one foot edging for the door

              I know Max’s dad wasn’t keen on Horner so maybe it was either Horner goes or Max leaves, I guess Red Bull have chosen Max.

              Or I’m just talking out my arse. 😂

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              • Canes4lifeC Canes4life

                @canefan said in Formula 1:

                @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

                Horner sacked by Red Bull.

                Sheesh, if Max goes they are in deep trouble. No Horner or Newey is already going to be huge change. I note the Racing Bulls boss has been "promoted" to Red Bull as well. Interesting times ahead there. Turmoil is good for other teams tho!

                Max might see RB in decline, he appears to have one foot edging for the door

                I know Max’s dad wasn’t keen on Horner so maybe it was either Horner goes or Max leaves, I guess Red Bull have chosen Max.

                Or I’m just talking out my arse. 😂

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                canefan
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                @Canes4life said in Formula 1:

                @canefan said in Formula 1:

                @MajorRage said in Formula 1:

                Horner sacked by Red Bull.

                Sheesh, if Max goes they are in deep trouble. No Horner or Newey is already going to be huge change. I note the Racing Bulls boss has been "promoted" to Red Bull as well. Interesting times ahead there. Turmoil is good for other teams tho!

                Max might see RB in decline, he appears to have one foot edging for the door

                I know Max’s dad wasn’t keen on Horner so maybe it was either Horner goes or Max leaves, I guess Red Bull have chosen Max.

                Or I’m just talking out my arse. 😂

                That's the accepted narrative. But if they can't produce a competitive car Max will surely leave

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                    Maybe Max is already gone? Could have been the last straw, Horner has to go, start from the bottom and build up a new team?

                    Otherwise surely Red Bull Racing is more attractive to Verstappen with Horner in charge? He knows how to create not just a winning team but a team that can completely dominate. That's got to be 10 times more important than a Team Principle getting along with your Dad, despite what the tabloids and netflix might want us to believe.

                    There was a group of people at Red Bull (Horner, Newey, Wheatly, Marshall, Marko and others) who are all as competitive as hell and for a long time they likely put their differences to one side because combined they ruthlessly created one of the most successful teams of all time. It has all been slowly crumbling since Dietrich Mateschitz passed away. Max's continued success has merely created a facade to cover what began to collapse 2.5 years ago.

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                      The braking by Piastri was double the braking pressure applied by Russell at the previous incident and a massive departure from that Piastri did the previous laps.

                      In the conditions it was a matter of skill that prevented Max ramming up the arse of Oscar.

                      The penalty was deserved.

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                      @antipodean

                      yes but . . .

                      do you think the penalty would have been applied if the circumstances were reversed

                      if the penalty was hanging over norris, and piastri was just behind him

                      so giving the aussie the win over the pom at the british GP

                      i dont think so . . .

                      there would have been a riot for sure!

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                        @antipodean

                        yes but . . .

                        do you think the penalty would have been applied if the circumstances were reversed

                        if the penalty was hanging over norris, and piastri was just behind him

                        so giving the aussie the win over the pom at the british GP

                        i dont think so . . .

                        there would have been a riot for sure!

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                        @mohikamo said in Formula 1:

                        @antipodean

                        yes but . . .

                        do you think the penalty would have been applied if the circumstances were reversed

                        if the penalty was hanging over norris, and piastri was just behind him

                        so giving the aussie the win over the pom at the british GP

                        i dont think so . . .

                        there would have been a riot for sure!

                        Unequivocally yes, it would have been applied and no, there wouldn't have been a riot. F1 media is pretty balanced over here. Yes, there is a natural bias towards the British drivers, but if Norris had pulled the Piastri move, people would have expected him to be punished.

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                        • R Runt

                          Maybe Max is already gone? Could have been the last straw, Horner has to go, start from the bottom and build up a new team?

                          Otherwise surely Red Bull Racing is more attractive to Verstappen with Horner in charge? He knows how to create not just a winning team but a team that can completely dominate. That's got to be 10 times more important than a Team Principle getting along with your Dad, despite what the tabloids and netflix might want us to believe.

                          There was a group of people at Red Bull (Horner, Newey, Wheatly, Marshall, Marko and others) who are all as competitive as hell and for a long time they likely put their differences to one side because combined they ruthlessly created one of the most successful teams of all time. It has all been slowly crumbling since Dietrich Mateschitz passed away. Max's continued success has merely created a facade to cover what began to collapse 2.5 years ago.

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                          @Runt said in Formula 1:

                          Maybe Max is already gone? Could have been the last straw, Horner has to go, start from the bottom and build up a new team?

                          Otherwise surely Red Bull Racing is more attractive to Verstappen with Horner in charge? He knows how to create not just a winning team but a team that can completely dominate. That's got to be 10 times more important than a Team Principle getting along with your Dad, despite what the tabloids and netflix might want us to believe.

                          There was a group of people at Red Bull (Horner, Newey, Wheatly, Marshall, Marko and others) who are all as competitive as hell and for a long time they likely put their differences to one side because combined they ruthlessly created one of the most successful teams of all time. It has all been slowly crumbling since Dietrich Mateschitz passed away. Max's continued success has merely created a facade to cover what began to collapse 2.5 years ago.

                          Bit harsh on Red Bull IMHO to say what has happened over the last couple of years is a collapse. There are so many moving parts to creating an F1 team and all are subject to swings and roundabouts. It's not THAT long ago that Mercedes was completely dominant, leagues ahead of anybody else. Did they have a collapse? The difference is that despite their large drop off, Toto owns the team, so he basically cannot be sacked.

                          Regardless they have the financial backing to turn things around. They certainly have a very very interesting year ahead.

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                            @antipodean

                            yes but . . .

                            do you think the penalty would have been applied if the circumstances were reversed

                            if the penalty was hanging over norris, and piastri was just behind him

                            so giving the aussie the win over the pom at the british GP

                            i dont think so . . .

                            there would have been a riot for sure!

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                            #869

                            @mohikamo said in Formula 1:

                            @antipodean

                            yes but . . .

                            do you think the penalty would have been applied if the circumstances were reversed

                            if the penalty was hanging over norris, and piastri was just behind him

                            so giving the aussie the win over the pom at the british GP

                            i dont think so . . .

                            there would have been a riot for sure

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                              @mohikamo said in Formula 1:

                              @antipodean

                              yes but . . .

                              do you think the penalty would have been applied if the circumstances were reversed

                              if the penalty was hanging over norris, and piastri was just behind him

                              so giving the aussie the win over the pom at the british GP

                              i dont think so . . .

                              there would have been a riot for sure

                              63d4dccd-b0dd-4b50-a1bb-8ba263004234-image.png

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                              @Catogrande ok boomer

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                              • BonesB Bones

                                @Catogrande ok boomer

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                                @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                @Catogrande ok boomer

                                Yeah. Kids today eh?

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                                • CatograndeC Catogrande

                                  @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                  @Catogrande ok boomer

                                  Yeah. Kids today eh?

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                                  Bones
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                                  @Catogrande said in Formula 1:

                                  @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                  @Catogrande ok boomer

                                  Yeah. Kids today eh?

                                  Why don't you type out another URL to take up the next two days

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                                  • BonesB Bones

                                    @Catogrande said in Formula 1:

                                    @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                    @Catogrande ok boomer

                                    Yeah. Kids today eh?

                                    Why don't you type out another URL to take up the next two days

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                                    @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                    @Catogrande said in Formula 1:

                                    @Bones said in Formula 1:

                                    @Catogrande ok boomer

                                    Yeah. Kids today eh?

                                    Why don't you type out another URL to take up the next two days

                                    Don't worry. One of the kids sorted it out for me.

                                    Was it you?

                                    Oh. No. Sorry.

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                                      Piastri on pole for the Sprint race tonight ahead of Max in 2nd

                                      Hadjar 9th, Lawson 11th and Tsunoda the last of the red bulls again in 12th

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                                        Max won the sprint. Did well to get past Piastri on the first lap

                                        Sprint races kind of suck because no one wants to risk the rest of the weekend

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                                        • DuluthD Duluth

                                          Max won the sprint. Did well to get past Piastri on the first lap

                                          Sprint races kind of suck because no one wants to risk the rest of the weekend

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                                          @Duluth said in Formula 1:

                                          Max won the sprint. Did well to get past Piastri on the first lap

                                          Sprint races kind of suck because no one wants to risk the rest of the weekend

                                          Fuck it was one of the most boring races eh, hardly any position changes if you discount those that went past Gasly.

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