All Blacks v France II
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@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v France II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v France II:
Jordie was bloody good again, making great yards on his carries
Reckon it's worth keeping him at 12?
Lol would be crazy to move him.
@Dan54 said in All Blacks v France II:
@Rancid-Schnitzel said in All Blacks v France II:
@Frank said in All Blacks v France II:
Jordie was bloody good again, making great yards on his carries
Reckon it's worth keeping him at 12?
Lol would be crazy to move him.
Whoosh!
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Truth be told JB would probably do at least as well at 10 as Beauden and Mckenzie. With a bit of time in the saddle his kicking for field position could be a real weapon. Especially combined with a lineout including Holland, Tuipulotu/Darry, and Vaa'i.
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Very few, if any, have mentioned our defence, so I assume people are happy with it? Me, I think it is still a weak point. When the French got into a position to score they either did or they came bloody close. It seemed inevitable that our line would be crossed. It reminded me of the Irish in NZ a few years ago.
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Very few, if any, have mentioned our defence, so I assume people are happy with it? Me, I think it is still a weak point. When the French got into a position to score they either did or they came bloody close. It seemed inevitable that our line would be crossed. It reminded me of the Irish in NZ a few years ago.
@Crazy-Horse It was better than last week, but still a key area of weakness.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean Doesn't matter.
Doesn't the first error/infringement take priority except in foul play? After he loses control of the ball forward its advantage All Blacks.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean Doesn't matter.
Doesn't the first error/infringement take priority except in foul play? After he loses control of the ball forward its advantage All Blacks.
@brodean said in All Blacks v France II:
@sparky said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean Doesn't matter.
Doesn't the first error/infringement take priority except in foul play? After he loses control of the ball forward its advantage All Blacks.
It was both the wrong call and the right call. Be thankful.
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@sparky said in All Blacks v France II:
@brodean Doesn't matter.
Doesn't the first error/infringement take priority except in foul play? After he loses control of the ball forward its advantage All Blacks.
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Very few, if any, have mentioned our defence, so I assume people are happy with it? Me, I think it is still a weak point. When the French got into a position to score they either did or they came bloody close. It seemed inevitable that our line would be crossed. It reminded me of the Irish in NZ a few years ago.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France II:
Very few, if any, have mentioned our defence, so I assume people are happy with it? Me, I think it is still a weak point. When the French got into a position to score they either did or they came bloody close. It seemed inevitable that our line would be crossed. It reminded me of the Irish in NZ a few years ago.
Second half they seemed to gain easy metres too many times.
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@brodean WR have decided a deliberate knock on is foul play. We might not like it but that's the ruling.
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Truth be told JB would probably do at least as well at 10 as Beauden and Mckenzie. With a bit of time in the saddle his kicking for field position could be a real weapon. Especially combined with a lineout including Holland, Tuipulotu/Darry, and Vaa'i.
@brodean said in All Blacks v France II:
Truth be told JB would probably do at least as well at 10 as Beauden and Mckenzie. With a bit of time in the saddle his kicking for field position could be a real weapon. Especially combined with a lineout including Holland, Tuipulotu/Darry, and Vaa'i.
After years of kiwis criticising 10 man old school English rugby you want to emulate it?!
I joke, it is good to able to execute it when required!Nb I just realised you left out a lock/captain there...
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Truth be told JB would probably do at least as well at 10 as Beauden and Mckenzie. With a bit of time in the saddle his kicking for field position could be a real weapon. Especially combined with a lineout including Holland, Tuipulotu/Darry, and Vaa'i.
@brodean said in All Blacks v France II:
Truth be told JB would probably do at least as well at 10 as Beauden and Mckenzie. With a bit of time in the saddle his kicking for field position could be a real weapon. Especially combined with a lineout including Holland, Tuipulotu/Darry, and Vaa'i.
Definitely a time and place for territory kicking, we don't utilise it much at all. And when we do it, we generally don't do it well
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Very few, if any, have mentioned our defence, so I assume people are happy with it? Me, I think it is still a weak point. When the French got into a position to score they either did or they came bloody close. It seemed inevitable that our line would be crossed. It reminded me of the Irish in NZ a few years ago.
@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France II:
Very few, if any, have mentioned our defence, so I assume people are happy with it? Me, I think it is still a weak point. When the French got into a position to score they either did or they came bloody close. It seemed inevitable that our line would be crossed. It reminded me of the Irish in NZ a few years ago.
The defense improved for the duration of the first half.
The following quote probably applies on attack and defence. This quote was made after the All Blacks lost to the Pumas. The backline was JB, ALB, Tele'a and Reece. The following week against SA they picked Rieko, and Clarke over ALB and Reece.
Quote from Victor Matfield last year:
“I went through that whole game on Monday afternoon. I rewound it, forwarded it, I really went through that game and when they were under pressure, I looked back at the days when the All Blacks were really scary,” he said on Final Whistle Presents Side Entry on SuperSport. “The one thing they always had were athletes that were better than other teams. Their backline players were bigger and faster than other teams. They don’t have it. “If I look at the All Blacks backs, they don’t have better athletes than any other team. If you compare them against South Africa, if you give our wingers the one-on-one, our wingers will be better. “If you give our centres a go, our centres will be better than theirs. You’ve never had that. There’s no Tana Umaga, there’s no Ma’a Nonu, there’s no Jonah Lomu, there’s no Christian Cullen. They don’t have that at the moment.” -
Matfield didn't mention we don't have a Dan Carter either?
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France II:
Very few, if any, have mentioned our defence, so I assume people are happy with it? Me, I think it is still a weak point. When the French got into a position to score they either did or they came bloody close. It seemed inevitable that our line would be crossed. It reminded me of the Irish in NZ a few years ago.
The defense improved for the duration of the first half.
The following quote probably applies on attack and defence. This quote was made after the All Blacks lost to the Pumas. The backline was JB, ALB, Tele'a and Reece. The following week against SA they picked Rieko, and Clarke over ALB and Reece.
Quote from Victor Matfield last year:
“I went through that whole game on Monday afternoon. I rewound it, forwarded it, I really went through that game and when they were under pressure, I looked back at the days when the All Blacks were really scary,” he said on Final Whistle Presents Side Entry on SuperSport. “The one thing they always had were athletes that were better than other teams. Their backline players were bigger and faster than other teams. They don’t have it. “If I look at the All Blacks backs, they don’t have better athletes than any other team. If you compare them against South Africa, if you give our wingers the one-on-one, our wingers will be better. “If you give our centres a go, our centres will be better than theirs. You’ve never had that. There’s no Tana Umaga, there’s no Ma’a Nonu, there’s no Jonah Lomu, there’s no Christian Cullen. They don’t have that at the moment.”@brodean said in All Blacks v France II:
“I went through that whole game on Monday afternoon. I rewound it, forwarded it, I really went through that game and when they were under pressure, I looked back at the days when the All Blacks were really scary,” he said on Final Whistle Presents Side Entry on SuperSport.
“The one thing they always had were athletes that were better than other teams. Their backline players were bigger and faster than other teams. They don’t have it.
“If I look at the All Blacks backs, they don’t have better athletes than any other team. If you compare them against South Africa, if you give our wingers the one-on-one, our wingers will be better.
“If you give our centres a go, our centres will be better than theirs. You’ve never had that. There’s no Tana Umaga, there’s no Ma’a Nonu, there’s no Jonah Lomu, there’s no Christian Cullen. They don’t have that at the moment.”
Matfield, an excellent player, and he can say whatever he thinks is the case, but hard to take what he says objectively when he still says….
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@Crazy-Horse said in All Blacks v France II:
Very few, if any, have mentioned our defence, so I assume people are happy with it? Me, I think it is still a weak point. When the French got into a position to score they either did or they came bloody close. It seemed inevitable that our line would be crossed. It reminded me of the Irish in NZ a few years ago.
The defense improved for the duration of the first half.
The following quote probably applies on attack and defence. This quote was made after the All Blacks lost to the Pumas. The backline was JB, ALB, Tele'a and Reece. The following week against SA they picked Rieko, and Clarke over ALB and Reece.
Quote from Victor Matfield last year:
“I went through that whole game on Monday afternoon. I rewound it, forwarded it, I really went through that game and when they were under pressure, I looked back at the days when the All Blacks were really scary,” he said on Final Whistle Presents Side Entry on SuperSport. “The one thing they always had were athletes that were better than other teams. Their backline players were bigger and faster than other teams. They don’t have it. “If I look at the All Blacks backs, they don’t have better athletes than any other team. If you compare them against South Africa, if you give our wingers the one-on-one, our wingers will be better. “If you give our centres a go, our centres will be better than theirs. You’ve never had that. There’s no Tana Umaga, there’s no Ma’a Nonu, there’s no Jonah Lomu, there’s no Christian Cullen. They don’t have that at the moment.” -
Forward pack was fantastic, Patty T had a great game, impressive. Holland the Lio-Willie looking like natural players in the test match arena, Vaa'i surprisingly mobile and looking good at 6. Savea looking good at 7 and the forward pack is a lot more balenced I feel. Reiko looking good on the wing. Credit where credit is due the selctins have been on point.
Ourbackline however not overly brilliant, ball still gets stuck in midfield, we seemed to have lost the ability for the backline to make space or to effectivly manipulate the defence for players to hit gaps.
Dare I say it after the weekends display this teams best change maybe playing 10 man rugby - well 9 man rugby, Roigard can kick the ball better than BB...
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Hot take: I think Reihana might have suited our game last night.
