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All Blacks v France III

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    brodean
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    #186

    Question is, what will the make up be of the locks/loose forwards with Barrett, Tuipulotu and Vaa'i unavailable?

    With Mcwhannel being around the squad I'd go.

    1. Norris
    2. Taukei'aho
    3. Lomax
    4. Holland
    5. Ah Kuoi
    6. Finau
    7. Savea
    8. Jacobson

    \16. McAlister
    17. De Groot
    18. Tosi
    19. McWhannel
    20. Papali'i

    Ah Kuoi is probably the same height and weight as Finau. I'd like to see a bit of extra height in the loose forwards so that means CLW and Kirifi can have a rest. After giving away 3 penalties in twenty minutes Kirifi should cool his heels anyway.

    They might have Jacobson at 6 and Lio Willie at 8 with Finau on the bench covering lock but I think it's a mistake going into a test with a guy debuting and not a proper lock cover.

    That kind of scenario reminds me of when we played Kaino at Soldier Field. Incidentally Finau did a better job covering lock last week than what Kaino did in Soldier Field though to be fair Ireland had that 2.1m lock Toner in that game.

    Ryan and Robertson had that history of playing Grace and Gardiner at lock for the Crusaders and I'm not convinced playing loose forwards at lock is something that will translate at test level in the long run. They might have an idea in their head that Papali'i could cover lock if they don't want to bring in Mcwhannel.

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      When’s the team named?

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      @pakman said in All Blacks v France III:

      When’s the team named?

      Posted on social media around Thursday midday. Backline is posted above though

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      • Landers92L Landers92

        @pakman said in All Blacks v France III:

        When’s the team named?

        Posted on social media around Thursday midday. Backline is posted above though

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        @Landers92 said in All Blacks v France III:

        @pakman said in All Blacks v France III:

        When’s the team named?

        Posted on social media around Thursday midday. Backline is posted above though

        Accepted answer is "Thursday".

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        • B brodean

          Question is, what will the make up be of the locks/loose forwards with Barrett, Tuipulotu and Vaa'i unavailable?

          With Mcwhannel being around the squad I'd go.

          1. Norris
          2. Taukei'aho
          3. Lomax
          4. Holland
          5. Ah Kuoi
          6. Finau
          7. Savea
          8. Jacobson

          \16. McAlister
          17. De Groot
          18. Tosi
          19. McWhannel
          20. Papali'i

          Ah Kuoi is probably the same height and weight as Finau. I'd like to see a bit of extra height in the loose forwards so that means CLW and Kirifi can have a rest. After giving away 3 penalties in twenty minutes Kirifi should cool his heels anyway.

          They might have Jacobson at 6 and Lio Willie at 8 with Finau on the bench covering lock but I think it's a mistake going into a test with a guy debuting and not a proper lock cover.

          That kind of scenario reminds me of when we played Kaino at Soldier Field. Incidentally Finau did a better job covering lock last week than what Kaino did in Soldier Field though to be fair Ireland had that 2.1m lock Toner in that game.

          Ryan and Robertson had that history of playing Grace and Gardiner at lock for the Crusaders and I'm not convinced playing loose forwards at lock is something that will translate at test level in the long run. They might have an idea in their head that Papali'i could cover lock if they don't want to bring in Mcwhannel.

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          antipodean
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          @brodean said in All Blacks v France III:

          Ryan and Robertson had that history of playing Grace and Gardiner at lock for the Crusaders and I'm not convinced playing loose forwards at lock is something that will translate at test level in the long run. They might have an idea in their head that Papali'i could cover lock if they don't want to bring in Mcwhannel.

          If that was to be their coaching and selection genius then David Kirk should give Mark Robinson 24hours to hold them to account before sacking the lot of them.

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            @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:

            @brodean said in All Blacks v France III:

            Reece already had a run for a few minutes. That's enough for me.

            How wrong you are. t wasn’t even a minute….

            dd58ea5a-8f73-4409-95e4-d7d402959cad-image.jpeg

            I'm still OK with that. Not convinced players are fully recovered in that time frame either.

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            paddygonebush
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            @brodean interesting paper on ligament rupture after a concussion Effect of a concussion on anterior cruciate ligament injury risk in a general population

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              Grace has only been used at lock at super rugby level in emergencies. Barrett, Tuipoluto, Vaa’i, Darry, Lord all out, options are stretched, but with the MABs back we do have a couple of options that are at least match fit.

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              • Landers92L Landers92

                @pakman said in All Blacks v France III:

                When’s the team named?

                Posted on social media around Thursday midday. Backline is posted above though

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                @Landers92 No sneaky preview of the forwards yet?

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                  Grace has only been used at lock at super rugby level in emergencies. Barrett, Tuipoluto, Vaa’i, Darry, Lord all out, options are stretched, but with the MABs back we do have a couple of options that are at least match fit.

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                  @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v France III:

                  Grace has only been used at lock at super rugby level in emergencies. Barrett, Tuipoluto, Vaa’i, Darry, Lord all out, options are stretched, but with the MABs back we do have a couple of options that are at least match fit.

                  I'd like to see Ah Kuoi replacing Vaa'i but think he's gonna have to don the 5 jersey.

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                    mariner4life
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                    In days gone by ah kuoi would be a solid Super Rugby cult hero.
                    The fact he's in line for a test is a sign of where we're at.

                    Hes jonno gibbes from wish

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                    • Q Quarky

                      @Landers92 No sneaky preview of the forwards yet?

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                      @Quarky said in All Blacks v France III:

                      @Landers92 No sneaky preview of the forwards yet?

                      No sorry.

                      I see the backline has made it to Facebook on a fan page so I might have to tone it back or may not find out at all moving forward if word gets back.

                      I know I sound like a hypocrite and understand it’s a forum and we all love to share the inside word but if anyone is sharing it, please make sure it isn’t being sent to a social media fan page or to someone you think could send it to something like that.

                      It may not have been from anyone on here but I just wanted to comment anyway on the off chance that it was. Want to be able to keep the sauce coming if possible and would hate to not be able to share it due to further leaks like that. Again, I know it sounds hypocritical but I hope you all understand where I’m coming from.

                      Appreciate the understanding. Cheers.

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                      • Landers92L Landers92

                        @Quarky said in All Blacks v France III:

                        @Landers92 No sneaky preview of the forwards yet?

                        No sorry.

                        I see the backline has made it to Facebook on a fan page so I might have to tone it back or may not find out at all moving forward if word gets back.

                        I know I sound like a hypocrite and understand it’s a forum and we all love to share the inside word but if anyone is sharing it, please make sure it isn’t being sent to a social media fan page or to someone you think could send it to something like that.

                        It may not have been from anyone on here but I just wanted to comment anyway on the off chance that it was. Want to be able to keep the sauce coming if possible and would hate to not be able to share it due to further leaks like that. Again, I know it sounds hypocritical but I hope you all understand where I’m coming from.

                        Appreciate the understanding. Cheers.

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                        @Landers92 name and shame!

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                        • Landers92L Landers92

                          @Quarky said in All Blacks v France III:

                          @Landers92 No sneaky preview of the forwards yet?

                          No sorry.

                          I see the backline has made it to Facebook on a fan page so I might have to tone it back or may not find out at all moving forward if word gets back.

                          I know I sound like a hypocrite and understand it’s a forum and we all love to share the inside word but if anyone is sharing it, please make sure it isn’t being sent to a social media fan page or to someone you think could send it to something like that.

                          It may not have been from anyone on here but I just wanted to comment anyway on the off chance that it was. Want to be able to keep the sauce coming if possible and would hate to not be able to share it due to further leaks like that. Again, I know it sounds hypocritical but I hope you all understand where I’m coming from.

                          Appreciate the understanding. Cheers.

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                          Quarky
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                          @Landers92 Maybe use a spoiler?

                          Could maybe hide it in them in case it's a bot doing it?

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                            In days gone by ah kuoi would be a solid Super Rugby cult hero.
                            The fact he's in line for a test is a sign of where we're at.

                            Hes jonno gibbes from wish

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                            @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France III:

                            In days gone by ah kuoi would be a solid Super Rugby cult hero.
                            The fact he's in line for a test is a sign of where we're at.

                            Hes jonno gibbes from wish

                            I will accept Temu Tanerau but won’t accept DSW comparisons lol

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                              sparky
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                              It seems like the mainstream NZ Rugby media have been briefed that there will be more changes than a toddler's mood in an afternoon.

                              https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/360759361/all-you-need-know-ahead-all-blacks-team-naming-third-french-test

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                                pakman
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                                So

                                Norris/Sami/Lomax/Patty T/Holland/Jacobson/Finau/RD
                                Bench: EDG/ McAlister/Tosi/Ah Kuoi/Paps

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                                • mariner4lifeM mariner4life

                                  In days gone by ah kuoi would be a solid Super Rugby cult hero.
                                  The fact he's in line for a test is a sign of where we're at.

                                  Hes jonno gibbes from wish

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                                  @mariner4life said in All Blacks v France III:

                                  In days gone by ah kuoi would be a solid Super Rugby cult hero.
                                  The fact he's in line for a test is a sign of where we're at.

                                  Hes jonno gibbes from wish

                                  Even when 5 capped locks are out injured.?

                                  Barrett
                                  Tuipolotu
                                  Vaa'i
                                  Lord
                                  Darry

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                                  • Landers92L Landers92

                                    @Quarky said in All Blacks v France III:

                                    @Landers92 No sneaky preview of the forwards yet?

                                    No sorry.

                                    I see the backline has made it to Facebook on a fan page so I might have to tone it back or may not find out at all moving forward if word gets back.

                                    I know I sound like a hypocrite and understand it’s a forum and we all love to share the inside word but if anyone is sharing it, please make sure it isn’t being sent to a social media fan page or to someone you think could send it to something like that.

                                    It may not have been from anyone on here but I just wanted to comment anyway on the off chance that it was. Want to be able to keep the sauce coming if possible and would hate to not be able to share it due to further leaks like that. Again, I know it sounds hypocritical but I hope you all understand where I’m coming from.

                                    Appreciate the understanding. Cheers.

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                                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks v France III:

                                    @Quarky said in All Blacks v France III:

                                    @Landers92 No sneaky preview of the forwards yet?

                                    No sorry.

                                    I see the backline has made it to Facebook on a fan page so I might have to tone it back or may not find out at all moving forward if word gets back.

                                    I know I sound like a hypocrite and understand it’s a forum and we all love to share the inside word but if anyone is sharing it, please make sure it isn’t being sent to a social media fan page or to someone you think could send it to something like that.

                                    It may not have been from anyone on here but I just wanted to comment anyway on the off chance that it was. Want to be able to keep the sauce coming if possible and would hate to not be able to share it due to further leaks like that. Again, I know it sounds hypocritical but I hope you all understand where I’m coming from.

                                    Appreciate the understanding. Cheers.

                                    The Fern isn't completely private ...

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                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks v France III:

                                      @Quarky said in All Blacks v France III:

                                      @Landers92 No sneaky preview of the forwards yet?

                                      No sorry.

                                      I see the backline has made it to Facebook on a fan page so I might have to tone it back or may not find out at all moving forward if word gets back.

                                      I know I sound like a hypocrite and understand it’s a forum and we all love to share the inside word but if anyone is sharing it, please make sure it isn’t being sent to a social media fan page or to someone you think could send it to something like that.

                                      It may not have been from anyone on here but I just wanted to comment anyway on the off chance that it was. Want to be able to keep the sauce coming if possible and would hate to not be able to share it due to further leaks like that. Again, I know it sounds hypocritical but I hope you all understand where I’m coming from.

                                      Appreciate the understanding. Cheers.

                                      The Fern isn't completely private ...

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                                      Landers92
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                                      @booboo I am well aware of that. Hence why I said it may not be someone who’s actually on here and just commented on the off chance it was. Could be a non registered person just browsing. Either way, you get the point.

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                                      • Landers92L Landers92

                                        @booboo I am well aware of that. Hence why I said it may not be someone who’s actually on here and just commented on the off chance it was. Could be a non registered person just browsing. Either way, you get the point.

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                                        @Landers92 said in All Blacks v France III:

                                        @booboo I am well aware of that. Hence why I said it may not be someone who’s actually on here and just commented on the off chance it was. Could be a non registered person just browsing. Either way, you get the point.

                                        Yeah, totally.

                                        Maybe you've got to scale back to being enigmatic and darkly hinting at "rumours" ... makes no difference in the end, the team is the team even if we want to know it earlier.

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                                        • Landers92L Landers92

                                          @booboo I am well aware of that. Hence why I said it may not be someone who’s actually on here and just commented on the off chance it was. Could be a non registered person just browsing. Either way, you get the point.

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                                          george33
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                                          @Landers92 that lashes guy read out exact backline yesterday on Radio and didn't mention any forwards .

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