All Blacks 2025
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where the fuck has this vast depth building narrative come from?
The same core guys play nearly every game, and for the most part, changes are injury forced. Chucking toekn minutes to guys or bringing them in because one of the core is hurt is not building depth its the reality of modern rugby.
This bloke is so sucked off its incredible
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in fact the more i look at that ridiculous graphic the more annoyed i get.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
where the fuck has this vast depth building narrative come from?
The same core guys play nearly every game, and for the most part, changes are injury forced. Chucking toekn minutes to guys or bringing them in because one of the core is hurt is not building depth its the reality of modern rugby.
This bloke is so sucked off its incredible
Look to Rassie if you want to see how to build depth. That annoys me just to type it
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Fuck Rassie. Overrated flog. Absolutely carried to that last world cup by a bunch of shocking refereeing decisions that should have seen them eliminated before the final, and then got them over the line by a ball hair despite us losing two players.
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"oh but he's so innovative, he did a midfield lineout maul, and uses traffic lights". fuck off. If World Rugby had any fucking balls whatsoever he would spend most of the time suspended for ref abuse.
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@mariner4life said in All Blacks 2025:
where the fuck has this vast depth building narrative come from?
The same core guys play nearly every game, and for the most part, changes are injury forced. Chucking toekn minutes to guys or bringing them in because one of the core is hurt is not building depth its the reality of modern rugby.
This bloke is so sucked off its incredible
It's either forced by injury, playing for a rusty B team (usually) against lesser opposition, or a handful of minutes from the bench every now and then. Robertson hasn't actively tried to build depth at all. He's used the bench poorly and hasn't played promising players alongside the core group unless forced to. A lot of the time, he really just says whatever he thinks sounds good at the time, or tries to justify selections however he can.
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@ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks 2025:
A lot of the time, he really just says whatever he thinks sounds good at the time, or tries to justify selections however he can.
Like when he said that he picked Vaa'i at 6 because "Test match rugby is a big mans game" but then doesn't apply that logic to the man packing down next to him
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@Duluth for a bloke who's superpower was reputedly man management, I haven't been that impressed at this level.
Tests are a very different beast to Super campaigns. No doubt he's a good coach, but I don't think he's putting it out there at the moment. Both Foster and Penney look better in comparison to 12-18 months ago.
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@Fredsaua12 said in All Blacks 2025:
Saw a post on Instagram yesterday from the mythofdmac account showcasing the depth across NZ at the moment. thought i'd chuck it up here for reference of what Razors trying to build.
- just so no one jumps down their back, the criteria was mentioned as adding in capped players before the uncapped.
Lol nothing against you at all, but I wouldn't be using that idiot's data for anything. He's just a facebook ripoff of that other weirdo legend of marty banks page.
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@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Fredsaua12 said in All Blacks 2025:
Saw a post on Instagram yesterday from the mythofdmac account showcasing the depth across NZ at the moment. thought i'd chuck it up here for reference of what Razors trying to build.
- just so no one jumps down their back, the criteria was mentioned as adding in capped players before the uncapped.
Lol nothing against you at all, but I wouldn't be using that idiot's data for anything. He's just a facebook ripoff of that other weirdo legend of marty banks page.
The other weirdo who runs TLOMB page has managed to leverage it into a successful professional career. Pretty sure he makes a bit of $$ from the page. Plus has picked up some decent roles as well. Is currently the social guy for the Wallabies.
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They’re both very odd.
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to build genuine depth we need to get a bit more collaboration from the top down to identify skill gaps and develop skills and players to fill these (hell, a coaching school just for exits from your 22 would help us no end, let alone a kicking school full stop)
We dont need to go back to what was all but 'one way same way' under Henry & Co when MIke Cron was out teaching everyone his ways across the country, but the intention was sound.
We need adaptability across the board, players who can adjust thier play and work under differing styles.
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@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Fredsaua12 said in All Blacks 2025:
Saw a post on Instagram yesterday from the mythofdmac account showcasing the depth across NZ at the moment. thought i'd chuck it up here for reference of what Razors trying to build.
- just so no one jumps down their back, the criteria was mentioned as adding in capped players before the uncapped.
Lol nothing against you at all, but I wouldn't be using that idiot's data for anything. He's just a facebook ripoff of that other weirdo legend of marty banks page.
The other weirdo who runs TLOMB page has managed to leverage it into a successful professional career. Pretty sure he makes a bit of $$ from the page. Plus has picked up some decent roles as well. Is currently the social guy for the Wallabies.
id say we could do with more people like them, willing to stick their necks out to make rugby content, would be good. I think its where other sports a miles ahead in raising the profile
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Was Preston the nutcase who tried to lose the Super final in the last few minutes? Jeez, I hope he doesn't do that in a test!
It looks like a good squad—huge tight five and big 6s. I hope Parker kicks on. I would have Blackadder and Paps ahead of Du Plessis and Jacobson, but understand the Blackadder omission due to his injury history and age. Paps has a far more physical presence than DuPlessis, though, who seems to be less effective against bigger packs. -
@SouthernMann said in All Blacks 2025:
@African-Monkey said in All Blacks 2025:
@Fredsaua12 said in All Blacks 2025:
Saw a post on Instagram yesterday from the mythofdmac account showcasing the depth across NZ at the moment. thought i'd chuck it up here for reference of what Razors trying to build.
- just so no one jumps down their back, the criteria was mentioned as adding in capped players before the uncapped.
Lol nothing against you at all, but I wouldn't be using that idiot's data for anything. He's just a facebook ripoff of that other weirdo legend of marty banks page.
The other weirdo who runs TLOMB page has managed to leverage it into a successful professional career. Pretty sure he makes a bit of $$ from the page. Plus has picked up some decent roles as well. Is currently the social guy for the Wallabies.
Not a fan but yeah you're right, fair play to him.
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I don't see the hype around Dalton. Had his shot in the Black jersey, hasn't set the house on fire. Time to move on personally.
I'm hoping we see plenty of 6. Va'ai 7. Savea and 8. Sititi, with Parker and Lakai getting plenty of mins. Everyone else to me are there to carry tackle bags until injuries strike.
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@Canes4life im kind of the same, no hate, deserved the shots he was given, he s abit of a victim of the chopping and chnaging we've done of the last few years, was stuck behind cane and now savea has moved back to 7
I think the only thing that make thing like that sting a little there are other guys that seem to be untouchable when they probably should be dropped
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@Canes4life said in All Blacks 2025:
I don't see the hype around Dalton.
I do.
He's fast. 8 tries for the All Blacks and one of the quickest forwards around in supporting the ball carrier and reaching the breakdown.
He combines size with athleticism: 193cm and 113 kgs.
His work at the breakdown is excellent. Only Ardie Savea among NZ Players has achieved more turnovers in Super Rugby since 2020.
His work rate is superb. He regularly makes 20+ tackles a game and has made as many as 28.
He is consistent and in good form. He topped TSF poll of Blues MVP this year.
