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All Blacks v Argentina II

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    I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

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      Other changes to the side I'd like to see.

      McKenzie starting with Love replacing him, given more and more game time throughout the tournament but they're just going to stick with Barrett.

      Preston as reserve halfback. If he's good enough to be in the squad, he can be in the 23. Christie isn't up to it - these coaches worked that out last year but obviously needed a reminder.

      Narawa (or anyone else) instead of Reece. Reece isn't going to be good enough at the 2027 World Cup. Give those minutes to someone else.

      Tavatavanawai or Tupaea in for Lienert-Brown for the same reason as swapping Reece.

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      • ACT CrusaderA ACT Crusader

        With certain players being “available for selection” for test 1, but in all reality were never going to be selected because of when they arrived in Argentina, this weekend presents a real opportunity to make a few necessary changes.

        Parker - Razor, if my emails and texts haven’t been clear, it’s the perfect time to play this kid. Select him on the bench and let him at it.

        Sititi - now that he is fully fit he needs game time. I’d imagine he is itching to get out there and build on his test form of last year even after a mixed super season. Plus we can move Ardie back to 7.

        TNT - ALB is officially cooked and this young fella is what we need to provide a little more punch in that midfield.

        Overall the only baffling selection in my eyes is Beaudie. He did a couple of nice touches and he defended for the most part well. But his kicking execution - option taking and lack of depth is putting huge pressure on us. Again I’m not against kicking and many of his options are decent (but no depth), but it’s the glaringly obvious poor ones that turn out attack immediate into us defending again and in bad territorial positions.

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        @ACT-Crusader said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

        With certain players being “available for selection” for test 1, but in all reality were never going to be selected because of when they arrived in Argentina, this weekend presents a real opportunity to make a few necessary changes.

        Parker - Razor, if my emails and texts haven’t been clear, it’s the perfect time to play this kid. Select him on the bench and let him at it.

        Sititi - now that he is fully fit he needs game time. I’d imagine he is itching to get out there and build on his test form of last year even after a mixed super season. Plus we can move Ardie back to 7.

        TNT - ALB is officially cooked and this young fella is what we need to provide a little more punch in that midfield.

        Overall the only baffling selection in my eyes is Beaudie. He did a couple of nice touches and he defended for the most part well. But his kicking execution - option taking and lack of depth is putting huge pressure on us. Again I’m not against kicking and many of his options are decent (but no depth), but it’s the glaringly obvious poor ones that turn out attack immediate into us defending again and in bad territorial positions.

        Yeah agree with all of that I would add Tamiti Williams back in to that 23 with Lomax (when Fit)and Williams added to the 23 and Tosi,Norris sitting behind them Bower who is still up to performing well at test Level we have awesome Propping depth.

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        • antipodeanA antipodean

          @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Tuipulotu is apparently in doubt, which might mean Vaa'i is covering lock again and two loose forwards on the bench - it's either that or Lord - so even more of an opportunity to have Parker there. Both he and Sititi could start from the bench if they're worried about their fitness or Sititi could start with Savea shifting back to openside and either Kirifi or Lakai on the bench. The latter option seems like too many changes for Robertson though.

          IMO only one of Savea, Lakai and Kirifi should be on the field at any point.

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          @antipodean said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          @ShaquilleOatmeal said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

          Tuipulotu is apparently in doubt, which might mean Vaa'i is covering lock again and two loose forwards on the bench - it's either that or Lord - so even more of an opportunity to have Parker there. Both he and Sititi could start from the bench if they're worried about their fitness or Sititi could start with Savea shifting back to openside and either Kirifi or Lakai on the bench. The latter option seems like too many changes for Robertson though.

          IMO only one of Savea, Lakai and Kirifi should be on the field at any point.

          I find myself agreeing with you,I do not like having 2 small Lfs on the field let alone 3.
          If Lakai is on the bench he has to replace Savea at 7 which you can do if Vaai is covering lock Parker could then also be on the bench.

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          • Landers92L Landers92

            I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

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            @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

            I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

            Someone smacked him after that performance????

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              Believe it was the yellow card incident

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                Looked like he had it before he came on.

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                • Landers92L Landers92

                  I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

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                  @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                  I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

                  Makes sense then him being concussed during that performance.

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                  • Landers92L Landers92

                    I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

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                    @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                    I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

                    The injury God continues to smile on Razor in helping him select better players. (my sample size being one - Sititi)

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                    • FrankF Frank

                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                      I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

                      The injury God continues to smile on Razor in helping him select better players. (my sample size being one - Sititi)

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                      @Frank Barrett’s injury meant he Holland got a start for the French series and Sititi’s injury meant he went with Va’ai at 6 😬.

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                        @Frank Barrett’s injury meant he Holland got a start for the French series and Sititi’s injury meant he went with Va’ai at 6 😬.

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                        @stodders Barrett and Holland both started the first test

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                          Assuming Patrick T is injured, I'd pick something like:

                          1. De Groot
                          2. Taylor
                          3. Newell
                          4. F. Holland
                          5. S. Barrett
                          6. T. Vaii
                          7. A. Savea
                          8. W. Sititi
                          9. C.Ratima
                          10. DMac
                          11. L. Carter
                          12. J. Barrett
                          13. B. Proctor
                          14. S. Reece
                          15. W. Jordan

                          1. Sami T
                          2. T. Williams
                          3. P.Tosi
                          4. S. Parker
                          5. P.Lakai
                          6. K.Preston
                          7. R. Love
                          8. R. Ioane
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                          • sparkyS sparky

                            Assuming Patrick T is injured, I'd pick something like:

                            1. De Groot
                            2. Taylor
                            3. Newell
                            4. F. Holland
                            5. S. Barrett
                            6. T. Vaii
                            7. A. Savea
                            8. W. Sititi
                            9. C.Ratima
                            10. DMac
                            11. L. Carter
                            12. J. Barrett
                            13. B. Proctor
                            14. S. Reece
                            15. W. Jordan

                            1. Sami T
                            2. T. Williams
                            3. P.Tosi
                            4. S. Parker
                            5. P.Lakai
                            6. K.Preston
                            7. R. Love
                            8. R. Ioane
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                            @sparky Lord on the bench over one of Parker/Lakai

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                            • sparkyS sparky

                              Assuming Patrick T is injured, I'd pick something like:

                              1. De Groot
                              2. Taylor
                              3. Newell
                              4. F. Holland
                              5. S. Barrett
                              6. T. Vaii
                              7. A. Savea
                              8. W. Sititi
                              9. C.Ratima
                              10. DMac
                              11. L. Carter
                              12. J. Barrett
                              13. B. Proctor
                              14. S. Reece
                              15. W. Jordan

                              1. Sami T
                              2. T. Williams
                              3. P.Tosi
                              4. S. Parker
                              5. P.Lakai
                              6. K.Preston
                              7. R. Love
                              8. R. Ioane
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                              @sparky

                              That forward selection should be close.

                              For me:

                              EDG/Taylor/Newell/Holland & Barrett/Lakai/Vaa’i/RD

                              Bench T’Mighty/Sami T/Tosi/Parker/Sititi.

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                                @stodders Barrett and Holland both started the first test

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                                @Chuck72 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                @stodders Barrett and Holland both started the first test

                                Bugger off with your facts. They have no place on this board.

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                                  It would be bloody ballsy, but I’d like to see Preston get a start.

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                                    It would be bloody ballsy, but I’d like to see Preston get a start.

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                                    @pakman I like being ballsy and I like Kyle Preston, but I think starting him from the bench (the role he's mostly had for the Crusaders) gives him a stronger chance of a successful debut.

                                    But he should definitely be in the 23 next Saturday.

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                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

                                      Someone smacked him after that performance????

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                                      @Frank said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      @Landers92 said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                      I’m hearing that ALB is going to be unavailable for this test due to a delayed concussion.

                                      Someone smacked him after that performance????

                                      I heard it was a headbutt, but not sure if Razor was involved

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                                      • sparkyS sparky

                                        Assuming Patrick T is injured, I'd pick something like:

                                        1. De Groot
                                        2. Taylor
                                        3. Newell
                                        4. F. Holland
                                        5. S. Barrett
                                        6. T. Vaii
                                        7. A. Savea
                                        8. W. Sititi
                                        9. C.Ratima
                                        10. DMac
                                        11. L. Carter
                                        12. J. Barrett
                                        13. B. Proctor
                                        14. S. Reece
                                        15. W. Jordan

                                        1. Sami T
                                        2. T. Williams
                                        3. P.Tosi
                                        4. S. Parker
                                        5. P.Lakai
                                        6. K.Preston
                                        7. R. Love
                                        8. R. Ioane
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                                        @sparky said in All Blacks v Argentina II:

                                        Assuming Patrick T is injured, I'd pick something like:

                                        1. De Groot
                                        2. Taylor
                                        3. Newell
                                        4. F. Holland
                                        5. S. Barrett
                                        6. T. Vaii
                                        7. A. Savea
                                        8. W. Sititi
                                        9. C.Ratima
                                        10. DMac
                                        11. L. Carter
                                        12. J. Barrett
                                        13. B. Proctor
                                        14. S. Reece
                                        15. W. Jordan

                                        1. Sami T
                                        2. T. Williams
                                        3. P.Tosi
                                        4. S. Parker
                                        5. P.Lakai
                                        6. K.Preston
                                        7. R. Love
                                        8. R. Ioane

                                        Not too much disagreement from me.

                                        I'd start Tamaiti, you can drag him when he is gassed as he's had a few weeks off. I know Groot would be more suited to start but that's what I would do.

                                        Jim on the bench.

                                        Maybe Narawa at 14.

                                        Think it was @KiwiMurph who suggested Lord to the bench. I'm sitting on the fence with the three of them and refusing to make a call.

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                                        • sparkyS sparky

                                          @pakman I like being ballsy and I like Kyle Preston, but I think starting him from the bench (the role he's mostly had for the Crusaders) gives him a stronger chance of a successful debut.

                                          But he should definitely be in the 23 next Saturday.

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                                          @sparky I want experience in my 9 and 10 if the game is tight with 20 to go.

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