Boks vs Wallabies 2
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@NTA said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
That Bok team might not be their best in terms of individuals. Or cohesion as a unit.
However they're going back to the blueprint: kick the skin off it and pressure us up the right end of the park. They won't care if we actually take the high balls - as soon as a toe touches the ground they'll be looking to put in a massive shot and get us gunshy.
There's nothing subtle about a 6-2 bench. The question is whether Schmidt responds in kind.
Far better backline
If the fatties can win good, clean, quick ball by taking it up the guts and tying in the Aussie loose forwards then that backline can do some damage
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Love the presentation of that data
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@nzzp said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
via Reddit:
Fun Fact: since 2019, there have been 8 matches between the 2 sides and both have won 4 each.2021
28 vs 26 
30 vs 17 2022
25 vs 17 8 vs 24 2023
43 vs 12 2024
7 vs 33 12 vs 30 2025
22 vs 38 Total Score:
160 vs 212 Average Score:
20 vs 27 So Dave Rennie was 3 from 4. Eddie dogshit.
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@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
This
Doesn't need to change the 'new style', players just need to be patient and focused
If they had done that last weekend it could have been close to 42-0 up and out of sight
If SA improve their accuracy once they've created the space then look out Oz
Doubling down on your "Boks should win easily in third gear" prediction from last week?
Fact is, for all the squad depth SA have (and they do), you can only pick 23 players on the day and they still have to perform or they will get turned over. Even at home against an Oz team that was written off by nearly everyone in the Republic. Confidence is a difficult beast to control. AB teams from the past know this when they have played cannon fodder in the world cup pool games only to meet an opponent up for the fight in the knockout stages. You have to earn every win. There's no God given right.
SA isn't as far ahead of the chasing pack (if at all) as some of their supporters believe, which is why the fall to Earth has been so profound this week. They still have a very good team and a great coach.
They will be dangerous this week because they will be desperate to atone for the embarrassment of last week. Not because they lost to Oz (no embarrassment there), but because for the second half they barely looked like they could compete at home and almost looked lost. That will sting. The over-confidence will be gone.
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@stodders said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
This
Doesn't need to change the 'new style', players just need to be patient and focused
If they had done that last weekend it could have been close to 42-0 up and out of sight
If SA improve their accuracy once they've created the space then look out Oz
Doubling down on your "Boks should win easily in third gear" prediction from last week?
Fact is, for all the squad depth SA have (and they do), you can only pick 23 players on the day and they still have to perform or they will get turned over. Even at home against an Oz team that was written off by nearly everyone in the Republic. Confidence is a difficult beast to control. AB teams from the past know this when they have played cannon fodder in the world cup pool games only to meet an opponent up for the fight in the knockout stages. You have to earn every win. There's no God given right.
SA isn't as far ahead of the chasing pack (if at all) as some of their supporters believe, which is why the fall to Earth has been so profound this week. They still have a very good team and a great coach.
They will be dangerous this week because they will be desperate to atone for the embarrassment of last week. Not because they lost to Oz (no embarrassment there), but because for the second half they barely looked like they could compete at home and almost looked lost. That will sting. The over-confidence will be gone.
Yep
That was a great comeback from Australia helped by some really ropey refereeing and dumb, dumb SA attack play
This weekend if SA play smart rugby and execute the game plan they’ll win by a greater margin than OZ did last week
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That is 2 great games by Australia in a row.
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@nostrildamus said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
That is 2 great games by Australia in a row.
Which is weird in itself
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@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@stodders said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@MiketheSnow said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
This
Doesn't need to change the 'new style', players just need to be patient and focused
If they had done that last weekend it could have been close to 42-0 up and out of sight
If SA improve their accuracy once they've created the space then look out Oz
Doubling down on your "Boks should win easily in third gear" prediction from last week?
Fact is, for all the squad depth SA have (and they do), you can only pick 23 players on the day and they still have to perform or they will get turned over. Even at home against an Oz team that was written off by nearly everyone in the Republic. Confidence is a difficult beast to control. AB teams from the past know this when they have played cannon fodder in the world cup pool games only to meet an opponent up for the fight in the knockout stages. You have to earn every win. There's no God given right.
SA isn't as far ahead of the chasing pack (if at all) as some of their supporters believe, which is why the fall to Earth has been so profound this week. They still have a very good team and a great coach.
They will be dangerous this week because they will be desperate to atone for the embarrassment of last week. Not because they lost to Oz (no embarrassment there), but because for the second half they barely looked like they could compete at home and almost looked lost. That will sting. The over-confidence will be gone.
Yep
That was a great comeback from Australia helped by some really ropey refereeing and dumb, dumb SA attack play
This weekend if SA play smart rugby and execute the game plan they’ll win by a greater margin than OZ did last week
Ropey refereeing? First I've heard that, even from the one-eyed Saffers...
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@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
If they'd been a little more restrained they would have probably won the game
I thought i read something recently about Rassie wanting to reinvent their game for the next cycle - not wanting to stay the same - I don't think one loss will throw him off course as it is somewhat inevitable that this kind of change goes too far on some occassions. I expect them to tighten up around the breakdown a bit and hit the one out to commit defenders, then go wide.
Whenever i type something like that it always feels like the most obvious statement in the world and what every team is trying to do...
He’s definitely trying some things and I’m not talking about the obvious gimmicky stuff. And I don’t mind it.
But he has to select / find the players to play that way.
The final quarter was interesting to see Bok players out on their feet like they were running on quick sand. Conditions did seem heavyish but not to the level to make a number of good players look ordinary
The thing about the breakdown is that Oz have players that attack it hard and that did seem to trouble the Boks and has the potential to trouble the ABs also. But the real difference was that the Wallabies had a gameplan that was tailored to the 10 they selected and the Boks didn’t have a 9/10 combo to execute theirs.
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@ACT-Crusader said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
If they'd been a little more restrained they would have probably won the game
I thought i read something recently about Rassie wanting to reinvent their game for the next cycle - not wanting to stay the same - I don't think one loss will throw him off course as it is somewhat inevitable that this kind of change goes too far on some occassions. I expect them to tighten up around the breakdown a bit and hit the one out to commit defenders, then go wide.
Whenever i type something like that it always feels like the most obvious statement in the world and what every team is trying to do...
The final quarter was interesting to see Bok players out on their feet like they were running on quick sand. Conditions did seem heavyish but not to the level to make a number of good players look ordinary
Watching Kriel unable to keep up with play for Wilsons try was pretty weird viewing
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@voodoo said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@ACT-Crusader said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@canefan said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
@Dodge said in Boks vs Wallabies 2:
I reckon Rassie will double down, they'll definitely try and correct the mistake of going too wide too early and will try and commit the aussies around the ruck but i reckon he's too stubborn to change their 'new total rugby' style
If they'd been a little more restrained they would have probably won the game
I thought i read something recently about Rassie wanting to reinvent their game for the next cycle - not wanting to stay the same - I don't think one loss will throw him off course as it is somewhat inevitable that this kind of change goes too far on some occassions. I expect them to tighten up around the breakdown a bit and hit the one out to commit defenders, then go wide.
Whenever i type something like that it always feels like the most obvious statement in the world and what every team is trying to do...
The final quarter was interesting to see Bok players out on their feet like they were running on quick sand. Conditions did seem heavyish but not to the level to make a number of good players look ordinary
Watching Kriel unable to keep up with play for Wilsons try was pretty weird viewing
My "conspiracy" theory is maybe Rassie has been thrashing the snot out of them with view to tapering for the ABs. Making sure the powder remains dehydrated.
